From cana at ece.stevens-tech.edu  Fri Dec  4 18:22:28 1998
From: cana at ece.stevens-tech.edu (Mentor Cana)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:22:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [web-design] test
Message-ID: <Pine.SO4.4.05.9812041822040.20947-100000@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu>

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test

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Mentor Cana <cana at ece.stevens-tech.edu>


From epa at mathlab.sunysb.edu  Tue Dec  8 17:05:23 1998
From: epa at mathlab.sunysb.edu (Etrit Bardhi)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:05:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [web-design] test
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.981208170503.6815C-100000@mathlab.sunysb.edu>

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just testing

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Etrit Bardhi <epa at mathlab.sunysb.edu>


From mentor at alb-net.com  Tue Dec  8 17:05:15 1998
From: mentor at alb-net.com (Mentor Cana)
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:05:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [web-design] test
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.981208170503.6815C-100000@mathlab.sunysb.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812081704050.367-100000@alb-net.com>

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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998, Etrit Bardhi wrote:
> just testing

Test received..... I think you should advertise on ALBANIAN, ALBA-NET,
aaso-l....   

tung,
Mentori

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From etrit at alb-net.com  Wed Dec  9 11:17:32 1998
From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:17:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [web-design] Mire se erdhet
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812091044290.4204-100000@alb-net.com>

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Tungjatjeta te gjitheve,

mire se erdhet ne kete liste te re.  shpresoj se kjo liste do te na
mundesoje qe te mesojme gjera te reja ne menyre informale.  

se pari desha te ju pyes se cfare programi perdorni per krijimin e faqeve
ne internet?  une deri me tani kam perdore vetem editore te thjeshte (dmth
kam shkruar ne HTML direkt), po kjo lype shume kohe dhe kam vendosur te
perdore ndonje program komercial.  me ra ne dore para ca kohe NetObjects,
po nuk me pelqeu aq shume (te kufizon shume).  a ka pase rast dikush te
punoje me Dreamweaver, dhe nese po, si ju duket?

poashtu a perdore dikush skripta te shkruara ne Perl, do te ishte ide e
mire qe t'i shkembejme skriptat, apo adresat ku mund te gjinden skriptat
per perdorim (si p.sh. http://reference.perl.com).  

me shprese se do te vazhdojme ne menyre konstruktive,

Etriti.


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Etrit Bardhi <etrit at alb-net.com>


From aqeli1 at uic.edu  Wed Dec  9 11:45:18 1998
From: aqeli1 at uic.edu (Albi Qeli)
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:45:18 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [web-design] Mire se erdhet
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812091044290.4204-100000@alb-net.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.981209104235.366484A-100000@tigger.cc.uic.edu>

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I have used Microsoft Frontpage. It works well for me. It writes
automatically the bulk of HTML, and you can edit the files on a simple
editor to fine tune, or other. I think that Frontpage is a good program.

I do not have much experience with scripts, my ISP did not allow me to run
them; 


         My startup page: http://icarus.cc.uic.edu/~aqeli1/

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Albi Qeli <aqeli1 at uic.edu>


From etrit at alb-net.com  Thu Dec 10 16:59:30 1998
From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:59:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [web-design] Mire se erdhet
In-Reply-To: <Pine.A41.3.96.981209104235.366484A-100000@tigger.cc.uic.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812101651160.4138-100000@alb-net.com>

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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998, Albi Qeli wrote:

> I have used Microsoft Frontpage. It works well for me. It writes
> automatically the bulk of HTML, and you can edit the files on a simple
> editor to fine tune, or other. I think that Frontpage is a good program.
> 
> I do not have much experience with scripts, my ISP did not allow me to run
> them; 

You should try and get an ISP that let's you use CGI-BIN scripts.  Or, if
you have a unix shell account, you can compile Perl to run on your own
account.

You can also compile Perl to run under Win95, but I haven't tried that,
maybe some other member of the list has done that and could give us some
more info.

I will send some sample Perl scripts soon.
> 
>          My startup page: http://icarus.cc.uic.edu/~aqeli1/
> 
The page looks very nice.  

Take care,
Etrit.

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Etrit Bardhi <etrit at alb-net.com>


From mentor at alb-net.com  Thu Dec 10 17:06:08 1998
From: mentor at alb-net.com (Mentor Cana)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:06:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [web-design] Mire se erdhet
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812101651160.4138-100000@alb-net.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812101702191.361-100000@alb-net.com>

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On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Etrit Bardhi wrote:
> You should try and get an ISP that let's you use CGI-BIN scripts.  Or, if
> you have a unix shell account, you can compile Perl to run on your own
> account.

You don't have to compile perl in your account to run perl scripts if the
server where your account is already has perl. 

The ISP MUST explicitly enable you to run cgi-scripts though. You can
create your perl scrips independently of the possibility run them
in conjunction with cgi or not.
 
tung,
Mentori

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From etrit at alb-net.com  Thu Dec 10 17:48:46 1998
From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:48:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [web-design] Mire se erdhet
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812101702191.361-100000@alb-net.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812101743320.4138-100000@alb-net.com>

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On Thu, 10 Dec 1998, Mentor Cana wrote:

> You don't have to compile perl in your account to run perl scripts if the
> server where your account is already has perl. 

But if the server doesn't have perl installed, you would install it on
your own account, for example create a bin directory and install it there,
and then put the first line of the perl script to be something like 
#!/export/home/username/bin/perl
or wherever your home directory is located (use the pwd command).

you can get perl from http://www.perl.com/pace/pub/perldocs/latest.html

Etrit.

> The ISP MUST explicitly enable you to run cgi-scripts though. You can
> create your perl scrips independently of the possibility run them
> in conjunction with cgi or not.
>  
> tung,
> Mentori
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> Mentor Cana <mentor at alb-net.com>
> 

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From aqeli1 at tigger.cc.uic.edu  Thu Dec 10 18:47:40 1998
From: aqeli1 at tigger.cc.uic.edu (Albi Qeli)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:47:40 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [web-design] Mire se erdhet
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.05.9812101651160.4138-100000@alb-net.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.96.981210174502.161108A-100000@tigger.cc.uic.edu>

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If I get another ISP, I will have to pay fees, etc. Currently I use my
school server, it is free, but for security reasons, noone outside school
network can run the scripts. So I have to live with it for now. 

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Albi Qeli <aqeli1 at tigger.cc.uic.edu>


From etrit at alb-net.com  Tue Dec 29 12:19:35 1998
From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:19:35 -0500
Subject: [web-design] Nje program i vogel ne Perl
Message-ID: <001e01be334f$6a1beac0$43e7080a@etropc.awl.com>

Mirdita,

siq u kam premtuar me heret, po e dergoj nje program te vogel ne Perl qe e
mundeson lidhjen ne nje nyje te caktuar permes ndonje shifre.   p.sh. nese
deshironi qe te keni ndonje faqe te mshefte, dhe vetem persona qe e dine
shifren te kene mundesine te lidhen aty, kjo mund te behet fare lehte
nepermjet ketij programi.  Nevojiten tre fajlla (apo skeda sipas info-tech
;)  - login.html, login.cgi dhe login.db

login.html eshte nje skede e shkruar ne HTML te cilen njerezit do t'a shohin
ne faqen tuaj, e kjo do t'i thirre skedat tjera, login.cgi dhe login.db.
dmth kjo skede i pason vlerat e dy atributeve 'name' dhe 'password' te cilat
login.cgi do t'i perdore per te shikuar se a gjinden keto vlera ne skeden
tjeter login.db (dmth a do t'ju le te kaloni ne faqen tjeter).

login.cgi eshte nje program i shkruar ne Perl.  Institucioni i juaj i
internetit (ISP komerciale apo shkolla ku e keni lidhjen ne internet) duhet
ta kete kompajllerin (si i thuhet kesaj ne shqip?) te instaluar qe te mund
ta perdorni.  Nese nuk jeni te sigurte, pyetni administratorin tuaj
(zakonisht duke derguar e-mail ne root at domain-i i juaj) nese ekziston
kompajlleri Perl dhe ku gjindet, pasi qe duhet t'a dini t'a vendosni ne
rreshtin e pare te programit.  ne rastin tim, shkolla ime e ka kompjallerin
ne direktorijumin /usr/local/bin/perl keshtu qe rreshti i pare i programit
login.cgi ia fillon me:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl

ky program i merr dy atributet 'name' dhe 'password' nga login.html dhe e
hap nje skede tjeter login.db per te shikuar se a gjinden keto atrubyte ne
at skede.

skeda login.db i ka nga tre rreshta per cdo person.  Rreshti i pare eshte
atributi 'name', rreshti i dyte 'password' ndersa i treti 'nickname.'  si ne
shembullin qe vijon:

Etrit
Mypassword
Mr. Etrit

Nese personi e shkruan Etrit si vlere per atributin login ne login.html dhe
Mypassword si vlere per password, atehere programi do t'u lejoje te vazhdoni
te kaloni ne faqen e re (ne kete rast Manager.html - shiko login.cgi) pasi
qe keto vlera gjinden ne login.db duke u pershendetur me rreshtin e trete qe
gjindet ne skeden login.db (ne kete rast Mr. Etrit).

Nese ato vlera nuk gjinden ne login.db, atehere programi do te kercen ne
faqen mainlog.html (shiko login.cgi, rreshti i parafundit).

Shpresoj se ky program i thjeshte do t'ju hyje ne perdorim, ndersa nese
shihni ndonje gabim apo keni ndonje sugjerim, eshte mire te diskutohet me
tutje ne kete liste.

Te fala,
Etriti.

programet:
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login.html:
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<BODY BGCOLOR = "BLACK" TEXT = "WHITE">
<br>
<center><b><h2> Prova per web-design at alb-net.com </h2></center>
<form action="login.cgi" method=post>

<table border = 0>
<tr>
<td valign = bottom>
<pre>        <h5> Login Name: </h5> </td>
<td>    <INPUT name="name"></td>

</tr>
<tr>
<td valign = bottom>
        <h5> Password: </h5> </td>
<td>    <INPUT TYPE="PASSWORD" name="password"></td>
</tr>
<br>
</table>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<input type=submit name=submit value="Login">
<input type=submit name=reset value="Reset">
</form>
</body>

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login.cgi:
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#!/usr/local/bin/perl

$mailprog = '/usr/sbin/sendmail';

$recipient = 'ebardhi at ic.sunysb.edu';

# Print out a content-type for HTTP/1.0 compatibility
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";

# Keep the curious out.
if ($ENV{'REQUEST_METHOD'} ne "POST") {
  print "<title>Invalid Script Access</title>";
  print "<h2>Invalid script access.</h2>\n";
  exit;
}

# Get the input
read(STDIN, $buffer, $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'});

# Split the name-value pairs
@pairs = split(/&/, $buffer);

foreach $pair (@pairs)
{
    ($name, $value) = split(/=/, $pair);
    $value =~ tr/+/ /;
    $value =~ s/%([a-fA-F0-9][a-fA-F0-9])/pack("C", hex($1))/eg;
    $FORM{$name} = $value;
}

&blank_response unless ($FORM{'name'} &&
                        $FORM{'password'});

$ok = 0;

open (PW, "login.db");
while ($name = <PW>) {
   $password = <PW>;
   $nickname = <PW>;
   chop($name); chop($password);
   if (($name eq $FORM{'name'}) and ($password eq $FORM{'password'})) {
      $ok = 1; last; }
}
close PW;

if ($ok == 1) {

   print "<center><p><h2><br><br>Greetings $nickname! <br><br>Welcome
to\n";
   print ' <body bgcolor="#000000" text="white"><a
href="Manager.html">getCustomizedMenu Cafe.</a>'
} else {
   print "<center><p><h2><br><br>I am sorry $FORM{'name'},<br> but you do
not have proper
\n";
   print "access to <br>getCustomizedMenu Cafe!\n";
   print ' <br><br>Back to <body bgcolor="#000000" text="white"><a
href="mainlog.html">Main Login Screen.</a>'
}

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login.db:
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Etrit
Mypassword
Mr. Etrit
Arta
Shifra
Ms. Arta

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From e106708 at ceng.metu.edu.tr  Wed Dec 30 05:52:18 1998
From: e106708 at ceng.metu.edu.tr (Dashamir Hoxha)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:52:18 +0200 (EET)
Subject: [web-design] Fjalori i ri
Message-ID: <199812301052.MAA19976@davul.ceng.metu.edu.tr>

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Tung,

Pashe fjalorin e vjeter te Eshrefit dhe mendoj qe me te vertete ka
nevoje per permiresime. Me kryesorja nga te tera eshte qe nuk punon
otomatikisht, ka nevoje per nderhyrjen e njeriut (u perpoqa te shtoja
disa te dhena dhe nuk u shtuan menjehere sic i prisja; kjo do te thote
qe aty duhet dikush qe ti shtoje).

Pastaj, permiresime duhen edhe nga ana e jashtme (nderfaqja). Dikush
propozoi ne info-tech qe duhet te duket si http://... ; le te na e
tregoje edhe nje here kete adrese se une nuk pata mundesi qe ta shoh.
Pastaj le te diskutojme dhe te vendosim se cfare eshte me e pershtatshme.

Ndoshta me e mira eshte qe te dhenat te ruhen ne DB dhe jo ne skeda,
sic ruhen tani, por ne kete pike nuk mund te them dot gje. Ata qe kane
njohuri per bazat e te dhenave le te diskutojne mbi kete ceshtje.

Ne pergjithesi, mendoj se nje projekt i tille del jashte mundesive te
nje njeriu te vetem. Keshtu qe nje ndarje e puneve dhe nje bashkeveprim
do te ishte gje e mire. A ka ne liste ndonje qe ka drejtuar ndonje
projekt me perpara (project manager)? Besoj se do ishte shume i dobishem
per ndarjen dhe bashkerendimin e puneve.

Une per vete jam gati te jap pervojen dhe njohjen time per CGI-ne dhe
Perl-in (si pjesetar i projektit ose si keshilltar i jashtem). Vetem se
per njefare kohe do jem i zene (sic e kam thene edhe me perpara).

Kur fjalori te kete mbaruar, besoj se eshte me e pershtatshme qe ta 
vendosim ne ndonje nga sherbyesit (server-at) shqiptare, psh albanian
ose alb-net .

Tani fjalen e keni ju, qe te thoni mendimet tuaja, dhe i pari Eshrefi,
qe eshte kryesori i kesaj pune.

Dashamir Hoxha
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