Fw: [Prishtina-l] Nostradamusi dhe Shqiptaret

[fadil.dalipi]

    Tung FORUMLINJE te nderuar, tung edhe ti Dardan

    Si njeri nder te rralet qe e ke lexuar NOSTRADAMUSIN, (kurse per te kane ndegjuar pleq e te rinje), i ofrove dy QUATRIANE (profecite e tij i shkruan ne vargje qe i quan QUATRIANE).
    Te gjithe ata qe e kane lexuar, e kane te dijshme qe NOSTRADAMUSI profecine e tij nuk e jep direkt me vend, date apo lloj te ngjarjes, por disi sikur lojtaret e shahut, (me 3 apo 4 levizje paraprake per vendosjen e situates se nevojshme), pra, me anen e alegorise.
Kurse, te gjithe e dijme qe tekstet e shkruara me alegori kane nevoje per nje analize shume te thelle dhe multidisciplinare.

    Ne vargun e pare shkrove (ka shkruar NOSTRADAMUSI): "In the great market called of liars...", kurse une po e lexoj (kuptoj) "NE DOMENIN E MADH TE GENJESHTRAVE..."

    Komentet le te jene "apriori".

Quatrain 5,91

Au grand march, qu'on dict des mensongiers,
Du tout Torrent & champ Athenien:
Seront surprins par les cheuaux legiers,
Par Albanois Mars, Leo, Sat. vn versien.

At the market that they call that of liars,
Of the entire Torrent and field of Athens:
They will be surprised by the light horses,
By those of Alba when Mars is in Leo and Saturn in Aquarius.



Sa i perket Romes, e kam kete arsyetim:


Nostradamus IV Century, 4.98 Quatrain

1568 Lyon Benoist Rigaud
origjinali i tekstit te Nostradamusit




Those of Alba will pass into Rome,
By means of Langres the multitude muffled up,
Marquis and Duke will pardon no man,
Fire, blood, smallpox no water the crops to fail

    Nuk eshte kety fjala per ALBANEZET si emer tjeter i ne shqiptaret, por eshte fjala per nje popull i cili kryesisht e ka popullezuar rrethinen e POMPEJES ne Italine e dikurshme. Kete tekst e aresyetoj me shtojcen  nga historia e shkruar shume vjete me pare.

    Teksti eshte si vijon me poshte.

"Really Alba is above all a rich city of history, to start from the Neolitico, between the sixth and the third millennium of the prehistory. The numerous archaeological recovered finds, in different epoches, from Traverso, Gallizio and the Lo Porto, they have testified the presence of a population, not more nomadic, that lived of agriculture and shoot and lived huts of circular form in the zone from Piave suburb or in a village situated on the left bank of the Cherasca, to few distance from the confluence with the Tanaro. These ancient inhabitants knew the fire, the use and the workmanship of the ceramics and of the green , sharp and fit stone to furnish the first rudimentary utensils, and they practised the breeding of the livestock. In the following millennia they knew the use of the bronze and of the iron and came classified with the name of "liguri stazielli," term that designates an ethnic group of Celtic origin assimilated , then, from the roosters, invaders of this zone at the end of the V century [a.C]. 
The commander of the roosters, Brenno, decorated Alba of the coat of arms of the Gallia, representing a rooster. The city conferred upon of this coat of arms for centuries, and preserve still today the traditional memory in a stylized rooster superimposed to the point of the bell tower from cathedral. The city got the Roman citizen with the law of the consul Gneo Pompeo Strabone in the 89 a.C. and it came baptized Pompeia Alba. Like Roman municipium had inserted region in the IX and counted to the Camilia tribe. 

The recoveries effected in the course of manifold excavations show like, for the first two centuries of the empire, Alba continues the Roman ascent and has constituted, together to Pollenzo and Benevagienna, a strategic and commercial triangle of all respect, with urbanisms structures of notable interest, between which the aqueduct, for channel the waters in city, and the sewerage for the unloading of the black waters in the near Tanaro river. The varied fonts show that Roman Alba, autonomous , enjoyed of own magistracies and of the complete citizen, entertaining three orders of people: the decurioni, more notable citizens ; the augustali, riders, contractors ; finally the separated populace in collegia of arts and works. 

Beyond to the college of the blacksmiths, are remembered those of the "marmisti" in Alba of the dendrogradi (directors of lumber for houses and ships), and of the centonarii, manufacturers of cloths of wool said centoni, much in use in the Roman army. We know that the epigraphic material , preserved beside the civic Museum of archaeology and natural sciences "Federico Eusebio" of Alba, is considered from the researchers like one of most interesting and conspicuous harvests of registrations from Piedmont."

    Pra, siq po e shihni , fjala eshte per do ALBANEZA te tjere, e jo per ne, qe jemi jashte domenit te NOSTRADAMUSIT.

    Aresya ime per te dyshuar ne kete tekst te Dardanit eshte jo qe kete e ka shkruar DARDANI, per te cilin kame shume respekt (po te kishim me shume DARDANA, njerez me vyrtyte te tilla dhe entuziazem te pashterrshem, ndryshe do te ishin punet), por ne tekstin e vete NOSTRADAMUSIT, ku te ne shqipetaret ka vendosur tituj siq jane DUKE dhe MARKIZ.

    Sa e kam te kjarte, te vetmit me gjak aristokrati jane diku kah AFRIKA JUGORE apo AMERIKA VERIORE (ONTARIO dhe BRITISH COLUMBIA), qe i kane niperit neper Angli apo Rumani nuk dua as qe te hy ne ate teme.

    Te nderuar vellezer, edhe pse jetojme ne stilin e jetes se fiseve (jo materialisht, por me ndjenja dhe shprehje te kultures dhe tradites), titujt e aristokracise humben ne koherat kur i merrnim shkollat nga INTERNACIONALJA, kur jetonim ne nje shoqeri te barabarte mes veti (edhe pse ishte e sakte shprehja e XH. ORVELLIT se "DISA JANE ME TE BARABARTE").

    Kjo ishte aresya e pare te hy ne analize te ketij teksti ne FORUM.

    E di qe nuk e zbulova "ZJARRIN", por do te deshiroja qe "te pijme kafe" ne ATHINE apo ROME, por nga paret e fituare prej arit te shitur nga ari i TREPQES (qdo koincidence me MITROVICEN eshte e qellimshme), apo nga paraja e fituar me rindertimin e KOSOVES, thjeshte nga paraja e fituar me pune, e jo ne kafenete e pushtuara me lufte apo me mjete tjera (droge, prostitucion apo naj HALLAKAME tjeter)

    Shkrimin e NOSTRADAMUSIT per pushtimin e ATHINES ndoshta do ta aresyetoj ne shkrimin tjeter.
    Thas NDOSHTA, sepse po dyshoj mos eshte realizuar kjo PROFECI ne kete dekade qe shkoi.


Ju pershendet,
arch. FADIL DALIPI, alias SPAJDI

P.S. Me Dardanin ben me pi kafe edhe ne NEW YORK.

me falni por po duhet me e shkru edhe ni P.S.

P.S-ja tjeter
        Nuk do te deshiroj qe kafja te jete ne WENDY'S





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dardani" <DNV990 at cj.aubg.bg>
To: <prishtina-l at alb-net.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:51 PM
Subject: [Prishtina-l] Nostradamusi dhe Shqiptaret


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>  I shpenzova nja dy ore me Nostradamusin, profetin 
> e famshem te mesjetes profecite e te cilit jane botuar 
> me 1555. E hasa Shqiperine dhe shqiptaret ne disa 
> vende dhe ja po i sjell ketu:
> 
> 1. SHQIPTARET do ta PUSHTOJNE ATHINEN!!!
> 
> "In the great market called of liars
> Which is all torrent and athenian field
> They shuyll be surprised by light horses
> Of the ALBANIANS, Mars in Leo Saturn and 
> Aquarius!
> 
> Dhe kuptimi i kesoj profecie eshte se Athina do te 
> pushtohet nga shqiptaret! Kur do te ndodhe kjo nuk 
> e di po nese i Besoni Nostradamusit Mireupafshim 
> ne Athine! :)
> 
> 1. Po i besuam Nostradamusin, shqiptaret nuk do te 
> kenaqen vetem me Athinen! Ata do ta shkelin edhe 
> ROMEN!!!
> 
> "Albanians shall pass thorugh Rome
> By means of Langres covered with helmets
> Marquis and Duke shall spare no man
> Fire, blood, small pax, water shall fail us"
> 
> Keshtu kafene e dyte do ta pime ne Rome! 
> Ka edhe nje profeci ku Nostradamusi parasheh 
> zgjerimin e shqiptareve ne veri deri ne Dalmaci...
> 
> Ju don,
> Dardani
> :)
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