[Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Vajza shqiptare e martume ne nigger.]]]]]

[Ramis Ahmetaj]

Jeton,
I apologize for being "comically racist". I had no intention of being funny, 
however I am pleased to learn that I posses that talent as well. As far as 
me being a racist, I have no idea as to where did my writing imply that 
because, first, I am not one and second my argument ,opposing 
inter-ethnic(racial)marriages in Kosova, was not based on race but on my 
opinion that the Albanian society in KOSOVA has not achieved the level of 
development that would benefit from inter-ethnic(racial) marriages.  I 
emphasized KOSOVA because this does not apply to the Albanian communities 
outside of Kosova.
And, Jeton, when one asks for insight, one must be willing to provide it, 
although I still don't understand what kind of insight would I be able to 
provide you with, since I have not been in Kosova in the last 8 years. 
That's why I call my writings opinions.

Sincerely,
Ramis Ahmetaj

>From: "jeton ademaj" <jeton at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com
>To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com
>Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Vajza shqiptare e 
>martume ne nigger.]]]]]
>Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 14:00:15 EDT
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>dear george,
>
>i think a nuanced approach to people's fears and prejudices is needed.
>as others' letters have shown, G.S.'s rhetorical bomb-throwing is a  
>salient
>from which others can voice (in a more p.c. way) their similiar xenophobic
>and pseudo-xenophobic anxieties.
>i think it's important to confront peoples' concerns, fears and hatreds *on
>their intellectual hometurf, if possible*.
>
>for instance,
>
>G.S.: it's silly to pretend your not racist when you can later admit that
>you can envision reproachment between Albanians and Serbs (and
>intermarriage) but not Albanians and those of the Negroid 'race' (taken 
>from
>the FALSE 19th century doctrine that humanity was in fact *3 separate
>species*. Since no 3-position genetic switch has ever been found
>(caucasoid/mongoloid/negroid), and since no example of 'race'-based
>infertility have been found ('blacks' from Zimbabwe can mate successfully
>with 'whites', (also 'yellows' 'pinks', etc.)
>what your left with is various collections of traits that get under 
>peoples'
>skin. riddle me this, g-thang: you believe ethnic reconciliation and
>intermarriage is possible twixt serbs and albanians but not between one
>'race' and another. but when i look at classic 3-position 'racial
>determinations' of various ethnic groups, i find that hindi (Aryans) are
>brown skinned but """"CAUCASIAN""""!!!
>
>so is it 'race', or skin color, that turns u off and on? are you racist
>because you think you have to be ("must...protect... Albanians...!") or
>because u just feel like it ("ewww!, brown!!")?
>
>but back to george, i think your tempting a much larger socio-political
>discussion than this forum can accomodate. just look at all the blithe
>'analysis' of the reasons for the U.S.' (current) position as global
>superpower that have been spouted off here: because/ in-spite-of 'racial'
>integration, which btw, doesn't fully exist yet, which is why Ramis and
>other's analysis has seemed so comically racist (oops, 'conservative'!)
>
>...while your take of America as the 'shining empire on a hill' are
>comically jingoistic. and your belief that America is lookin' to take on 
>the
>"white man's burden" in the Balkans is NOT shared by most people, in the
>U.S. State dept., or anywhere else. ideas, and not posturing, can bring
>people out of ignorance
>
>so, everyone, please less jingo, and more insight?
>
>jeton
>
>
>>Dear Albi,
>>As for your comments about Japan (a racist nation that
>>has had beliefs of "Japanese Superiority"), were you
>>sleeping during World History class?
>>If you had been awake, you may have heard the lesson
>>about how the United States blasted the smithereens
>>out of Nippon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki after they had
>>surprised us with their infamous attack at Pearl
>>Harbor, Hawaii.
>>As a result, the Japanese nation was occupied by our
>>forces under General Douglas McArthur who, because of
>>him, helped Japan come out of her rubble.
>>It was due to our American aid and leadership (for
>>more than 20 years) that Japan once again became not
>>only a great and powerful nation, but also, one of our
>>greatest allies.
>>The same holds true for Germany.
>>Perhaps, after you people in the Balkans finally get
>>your act together and learn to respect each other and
>>get along as you should, the world will be a better
>>place for EVERYONE, and perhaps you may one day truly
>>enjoy peace and prosperity as you should.
>>The message from us, the American people is: Stop the
>>vengeance and counter vengeance, stop the ethnic
>>cleansing and ethnic prejudice against each other and
>>LEARN to mingle, live with each other as brothers and
>>work together to bring a PERMANENT PEACE among
>>yourselves and the rest of the world.
>>What's it going to take to get you to understand
>>something as simple as that? You only serve to turn
>>the world against ALL of you (Albanian and Serbian
>>alike) if you keep on going with your outdated and
>>senseless philosophies.
>>Do we have to continue to occupy your lands to teach
>>you a lesson? Or can we return our forces back to our
>>KFOR countries with the trust and hope that you will
>>FINALLY get it right?
>>Remember, that we have the power and ability to carry
>>out our philosophy of world peace and the KLA or
>>Milosevic's death squads are no match against us. Do
>>we have to beat you all of you BALKAN people senseless
>>until you learn your lesson?
>>I suggest you quit while you're ahead!
>>--George
>>
>>--- Albi Qeli <aqeli1 at tigger.cc.uic.edu> wrote:
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>> > >mongoloid/outdated philosophies about "ethnic
>> > purity"
>> > >I do not only HAVE the courage of my AMERICAN
>> > >convictions, I have plenty of knowledge AND
>> > >historical/socio-anthropological evidence to prove
>> > it.
>> > >Dear boy, you've MORE THAN MET YOUR MATCH!
>> >
>> >
>> > see Japan; they make better cars, better beer, even
>> > better condoms; the
>> > japanese have a higher standard of living, have
>> > longer life-spans, and the
>> > list goes on and on; the japanese are probably the
>> > most homogenous nation
>> > there is; they did not need diversity to achieve all
>> > that; they do not need
>> > to get europeans, africans, latinos, in order to be
>> > a great nation;
>> >
>> > quit the rambling about the advantages of diversity;
>> > there are no advantages
>> > unless you are one the so called "minorities"; if
>> > you are a "minority," then
>> > yes, diversity is very good for you, no question
>> > about it;
>> >
>> >
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