From etrit at alb-net.com Sat Jan 1 22:06:27 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 22:06:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Hi In-Reply-To: <386D19E1.65DB8CCF@aps.edu> Message-ID: There is an internet cafe in Prishtina, it's called Click|Cafe, I don't have their contact number though... Etrit. On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Keith Jordan wrote: > Do you have ISP service from Phristina yet??? Is there a way to set up > an account for internet access in Phristina? > > thank you, > Jordan_k at aps.edu > From etrit at alb-net.com Sun Jan 2 08:40:26 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 08:40:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] HI In-Reply-To: <19991229144703.6448.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Dec 1999, Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis wrote: > Hi Jim. > > As an American who's been coming to Kosovo for years, I'm more than happy to > deal with the electricity and water going out sometimes, and problems with > phone calls. These are things that are being fixed. Nothing's fast, and > nothing's easy. But, people's lives and families can't be fixed. Hi Jennifer, can you tell us more how people feel these days there? Do they feel safe? Do you see young people (especially women) walking down the street in the evening or are they afraid to venture out as is being reported in the media... And do you have any information when will the airport be re-opened? Etrit. From UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com Sun Jan 2 19:37:32 2000 From: UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com (UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:37:32 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [Prishtina-l] Message-ID: <0.51e0043c.25a1494c@aol.com> Tung shipeca... A keni ndegju se kish qen nji party dikun ne Bronx, Kingsbridge Ave. E kishin kall krejt ... njani prej MTV-s kish qen si DJ, dhe kish qen transmetimi direkt!!!!!!!! Engjelli P.S. A mos ka ndegju ndojkush per DJ. PYKA?????????? From Daqki at aol.com Sun Jan 2 19:42:41 2000 From: Daqki at aol.com (Daqki at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:42:41 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [Prishtina-l] Message-ID: <0.b9e08bc4.25a14a81@aol.com> ej engjel isha fatlum dhe morra pjese ne "party" ..zhurke ne Bronx dhe metvertete D.J ishte i talentum ....ani ma me mikrofon " a real stand up comedian" si Dice Clay-i..... qka tjeter me thone vetem ...HIH HIP HUrayyy for the D Gjej... From Jhjr1751 at aol.com Sun Jan 2 20:15:08 2000 From: Jhjr1751 at aol.com (Jhjr1751 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 20:15:08 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] hello Message-ID: <0.3dfc50e7.25a1521c@aol.com> MELISA HI PLEASE WRITE AND TELL ME MORE ABOUT YOURSELF THANXS JIM From Jhjr1751 at aol.com Sun Jan 2 20:13:34 2000 From: Jhjr1751 at aol.com (Jhjr1751 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 20:13:34 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] hello Message-ID: <0.476a1f77.25a151be@aol.com> HELLO IM LOOKING TO CONTACT SINGLE LADIES FROM KOSOVO WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MARRIAGE TO AN AMERICAN PLEASE HAVE THEM CONTACT ME THANXS JIM From kayeking at dialin.net Mon Jan 3 18:40:40 2000 From: kayeking at dialin.net (Kaye King) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:40:40 -0000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina Message-ID: <01bf5643$f1d30800$ab8f5dc2@kayeking> Hi Can anyone tell me what the weather is like in Pristina now, please? Is there a lot of snow? Is the road from Pristina to Skopje clear of snow and can it be driven on? Many thanks Happy New Year Kaye -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Jan 3 19:14:33 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:14:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 13 Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:54:37 +0100 From: Nol Shala - N? teatrin "Dodona" n? Prishtin? me 26. Dhejtor 1999 gitaristi yn? i mir?njohur Ehat Musa, i cili jeton dhe vepron m? se 20 vite n? Paris, shfaqi nj? koncert nga repertuari i tij bashk?kohor klasik. Koncerti ishte organizuar nga zyra fran?eze e administrat?s civile t? UNMIK-ut p?r rajonin e Prishtin?s. T? ardhurat nga biletat e shitura do t? dedikohen artist?ve dhe veprimtar?ve kulturor t? Kosov?s. - N? Ferizaj me 27. Dhjetor 1999 u shfaq komedia "Titaniku shqiptar?" n? tekst dhe regji t? Mentor Zymberaj. Me plot? humor dhe satir? anon kjo pjes? teatrale kah tragjika dhe realiteti yn? i viteve t? fundit. Posa?arisht amoraliteti fizik dhe shpirt?ror shpreh dukurit e p?rditshme t? shoq?ris? kosovare. Rrolet i luajt?n Ahmet Krasniqi, Arlinda Gjoka, Agim Kastrati, Xhelal Halili dhe t? tjer?t. - N? pallatin e sporteve n? Mitrovic? me 27. Dhjetor 1999 u mbajt spektakli i zgjedhjes s? "Miss Mitrovica '99". N? k?t? konkurs t? bukuris? u prezentuan 16 bukuroshe t? Mitrovic?s. Me programin kulturor-artistik t? shfaqur nga "Fisnik?t" nga Prishtina, "Art Design" nga Gjakova dhe k?ng?tar?s Edona Llalloshi u zgjodh Antigona Halili "Miss Mitrovica '99" n? prani t? 3000 shiquesve. P?rcjell?se e par? e "Miss Mitrovica '99" u zgjodh Valbona Voca, nd?rsa e dyta Murvete Deliqi. - Me 30. Dhjetor 1999 n? sht?pin? e kultur?s n? Obiliq u mbajt ora letrare kushtuar 59 vjetorit t? vdekjes s? poetit t? madh shqiptar? At Gjergj Fishta, t? cil?n e organizoj klubi letrar "Fahri Fazliu" nga Obiliqi. N? k?t? takim p?rve? an?tar?ve t? klubit, mor?n pjes? edhe an?tar?t e shoqat?s s? shkrimtar?ve t? Kosov?s. Atypari u lexuan dhe recituan pjes? nga veprat e shkrimtarit Fishta. - "Party 2000 - Per?ndimi vjen n? Prishtin?" quhet ndeja e mbajtur p?r nat?n e vitit t? ri n? mens?n e student?ve t? Universitetit t? Prishtin?s. DJ-?t nga Anglia Jamie Ashdown, Nick Marchment, Danny Domnack dhe Rupert Brodshaw t? shoq?ruar nga "Jerico Walls" t? Prishtin?s mbajt?n ndej?n e ve?ant? p?r nat?n e Vitit t? Ri 2000. Me sponzorimin e "Austria Airlines", "British Council" dhe "Tyrolean Airlines" ?sht? mund?suar ardhja e DJ-?ve t? njohur t? "Rave" muzik?s n? Prishtin?. - Gazeta e p?rditshme "Rilindja" n? numrin e 28. Dhjetorit 1999 shpalli konkursin n? shkruarjen e nj? tregimi p?r rastin e dit?s jubilare t? 55 vjetorit t? themelimit t? k?saj gazete. Tregimi nga nj? autor i mosh?s madhore nuk guxon t? jet? m? i gjat? se 5 faqe, nd?rsa nga nj? f?mij? 3 faqe. Deri me 31. Janar 2000 munden t? interesuarit t? dor?zojn? shkrimet e tyre pran redaksionit t? Rilindjes n? Prishtin?. Tregimet e shp?rblyera do t? fillojn? t? botohen nga numri solemn i 12. Shkurtit 1999 t? Rilindjes. P?r gazet?n e Kulturserver Kosova raporton Beq? Mulliqi nga Prishtina ****************************************************** * the online-community for art+culture http://www.kulturserver.de * ****************************************************** From shdibrani at paus.ch Mon Jan 3 19:15:53 2000 From: shdibrani at paus.ch (Shefqet Dibrani) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:15:53 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] GAZETARI DHE DEMOKRACIA Message-ID: <001a01bf5648$de5c7ae0$783cd1c2@shdibrani> PERSIATJE Gazetari dhe demokracia Mbi bot?kuptimin e gazetarit dhe t? demokracis? Secili krijues qoft? ky edhe gazetar duhet t?ia v?r? vetes nj? q?llim, formimin e personalitetit t? tij. Pastaj q?llimi i informimit duhet t? ket? synim zhvillimin e proceseve shoq?rore politke jo t?i pengoj? a ngadal?soj? ato procese. Gazetari duhet p?rpjekur vazhdimisht t? regjistroj? veprimtarit? dhe aktivitetet q? jan? b?r? n? rrethin ku ai jeton dhe m? gjer? duke u p?rpjekur vazhdimisht q? t?i orientoj? proceset kah emancipimi i sh?ndosh? i shoq?ris?. Jo pa q?llim diktator?t v?jn? monopol mbi mjetet e informimit, jo rast?sisht bota demokratike i ka kushtuar r?nd?si zhvillimit t? mjeteve t? informimit qofshin k?to t? shkruara, elektronike apo vizuele. Demokracia e nj? kombi nuk varet nga siglat me nofk?n "demokraci" t? v?na n? ball? t? gazetave dhe t? shqiptuara vazhdimisht mu nga ata q? nuk e rrespektojn? demokracin?. Edhe diktator?t m? t? tmerrsh?m kan? folur gjithmon? p?r demokracin?. Demokracin? e v?rtet? e krijojn? ligjet dhe normat civilizuese shtetrore. Pra ato kombe q? kan? kultur? e tradit? t? zhvilluar, dijn? p?r t?i rrespektuar ligjet dhe normat shoq?rore t? cilat i kan? miratuar vet dhe q? i kan? avancuar proceset demokratik m? mir?, jo despotizmi e anarkia komuniste. Zhvillimin e demokracis? e pengon korrupcioni, e deformojn? t? paaftit dhe mediokritetet qofshin k?to t? v?na edhe n? hierarkin m? t? lart?. P?r t?u penguar proceset demokratike zakonisht aplikohet dhuna mbi gazetar?t, kjo ndodh? sidomos n? koh?n e r?njes s? diktaturave dhe n? koh?n e p?rpjekjeve p?r t?u rikthyer diktaturat. Gazetarin? shqiptare e ka prekur sindromi i dhun?s ku ka mbjellur frik?n, prandaj n? kuptimin e plot? t? fjal?s ne nuk kemi gazetari t? konceptit demokratik dhe t? mendimit t? lir?, e as p?rgjegjsi ndaj gazetar?ve dhe gazetaris? n? p?rgjith?si. Logjika e dhun?s mbi gazetar?t ka filluar edhe n? Kosov?, gj? q? ?sht? shqetsuese. Gjat? vitit t? fundit Kosova ka humbur nj? num?r t? caktuar gazetar?sh n? mesin e tyre shefin e QIK-ut Enver Malokun. Para se t? vriten gazetar?t, p?r fat t? keq kobet mortare jan? ndjellur pik?risht nga gazetat dhe gazetar?t. Kush ka pasur nj? sens nuhatjesh ka mundur t? v?rej se para rasteve t? dhun?s nga nj? pjes? e shtypit komunist t? cil?t kan? qen? edhe m? par? t? implikuar n? ingranazhet e sistemit paraprak, gazeta dhe gazetar? kan? ushtruar trysnin e krimit publik ndaj koleg?ve t? tyre poashtu gazetar?. K?to raste zakonisht niseshin me p?rbaltjen e dinjitetit t? akcilit gazetar a intelektual, madje duke i shpallur edhe "plehurina" ku nuk kan? pr? bresh?ri akuzash q? s?kan? t? b?jn? fare me karakterin njer?zor dhe demokracin?. Si duket kjo b?hej n? m?nyr? q? pas krimit ?do gj? t? kaloi n? heshtje. Po gjat k?saj kohe zakonisht b?hej zhurm? p?r gazet?n e tyre thuaja se gjoja jan? t? sulmuar dhe t? rrezikuar m? shum? se t? tjeret n? nj?r?n an? dhe n? an?n tjet?r p?r ta t?rhequr v?mendjen e opinionit nga krimi q? duhej b?r?. Me realizimin e krimit gjithmon? jan? t? par?t q? d?rgojn? telegrame ngushllimi duke e denoncuar krimin q? vet e kan? organizuar. Bota ?sht? e marr?, demokracia ?sht? e pakuptimt, dhe pik?risht jua ndan ?mimet dhe i nderon z?rat q? kan? thirrur vazhdimisht p?r t? ushtruar dhun?n mortare mbi koleg?t e tyre. ?sht? detyr? e gazetar?ve dhe e krijuesve q? t?u paraprijn? ndodhive, t?i pengojn? rastete e sh?mtuara dhe t?i avancojn? proceset demokratike m? tutje. ?sht? obligim moral i secilit gazetar p?r ta ngritur z?rin, ata nuk duhet ngurruar p?r ta th?n? t? v?rtet?n. Demokracia nuk zhvillohet duke ua mohuar pun?n atyre q? dijn? dhe kan? vullnet p?r t? punuar, demokracia zhvillohet vet?m nga njer?zit me horizont t? gj?r? dijesh, me vizione t? qarta p?r ardhm?rin? me pikpamje t? sh?ndosha. Demokracia nuk zhvillohet me sojin komunist e as me tipin e rac?s s? rrespektuar, ngase ky lloj specie ?sht? pjell? e kryq?zimeve t? gabuara. N? politik? metoda e mbarsimit n? mes t? dy proceseve del edhe m? e sh?mtuar prandaj ?sht? detyr? e gazetar?ve q? t?i shtjellojn? k?to ??shtje m? mir?, q? ta qartsojn? kombin e tyre m? mir?. Demokracia nuk zhvillohet me tutel?n e dhun?s e as me vendime bolshevike, demokracin? e pengojn? bajraktar?t dhe analfabetet e fiseve a kabileve t? "?muara" e t? rrespektuara t? cil?t kan? pranuar q? mediokritetet t?ua v?n? kumonen p?r ta bartur n? em?r t? gjakut e t? fisit, dhe fshehurazi p?r t?i r?n? asaj kumone mu ata q? kan? q?llime mbyt?se p?r demokracin?. E p?rseris? se demokracin? e mbytin korrupcionet dhe shplarja e parave. N? shoq?rin? ton? nuk guxon t? lejohen krime ordinere dhe nuk duhet heshtur para padrejtsive. ?sht? anakronike dhe tep?r e d?mshme p?r nj? shoq?ri kur pranon ta drejtojn? shkularak?t e ardhur nga m?rgimi t? cil?t n? koh?ra t? v?shtira ia kan? kthyer pa dhembje shpin?n atdheut dhe do t?ia kthejn shpinen p?rseri atdheut t? tyre n?se n? ?fardo zgjedhjesh do t? humbnin kolltu?et n? pushtet. Si do t? avancohet shoq?ria, si do t? qohen proceset p?rpara me progrese komuniste edhe nese mbajn? nofk?n demokratike ?sht? tem? p?r t?u diskutuar e shoshitur deri n? fund dhe k?t? duhet filluar gazetar?t. Konceptet karikohen kur proceset drejtohen nga ajo kategoria e njer?zve q? kan? kaluar nj? jet? n? vendet demokratike kurse atdheut t? tyre insistojn? t?ia imponojn? modelin despotik t? komunizmit primitiv. Si kan? mundur k?ta njer?z t?i pranojn? modelet primitive duke aplikuar edhe maskat p?r ta realizuar q?llimin e tyre, kur n? vendet ku kan? jetuar kjo gj? ?sht? arritur n? nj? konkurenc? serioze dhe demokratike. Edhe kjo problematik? ?sht? rrahur pak?, fare pak? nga gazetar?t. Demokracin? duhet ?muar jo p?r statutet dhe programet e shkruara por p?r arsye se vend?t q? e kan? aplikuar k?t? sistem jan? zhvilluar dhe kan? hecur p?rpara. ?sht? detyr? sidomos e gazetar?ve q? k?to pro?ese t?i emancipojn?, t?i kultivojn? dhe t?i zhvillojn? n? kontinuitet p?r t? p?rftuar ata dhe kombi n? p?rgjith?si. Nga ky priz?m i koncepteve mbi shoq?rin? dhe demokracin? duhet nisur orientimet e temave t? trajtuara t? cilat do t? b?hen mjaft? t? lexuara, dhe t? cilat do t?i sh?rbejn? shoq?ris? e cila synon p?r ta arritur q?llimin final, pavar?sin? mendore, intelektuale, politike dhe at? juridike. Shefqet Dibrani -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Jan 3 19:20:28 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:20:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina In-Reply-To: <01bf5643$f1d30800$ab8f5dc2@kayeking> Message-ID: Hi Kaye, the current weather in Prishtina is 27F or, -3 C (check www.prishtina.com for updates). I also wanted to let you know that your e-mail contained a virus called happy99.exe. Please use an anti-virus software to get rid of the viruses in the future... :-) Sincerely, Etrit. On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Kaye King wrote: > Hi > > Can anyone tell me what the weather is like in Pristina now, please? Is there a lot of snow? Is the road from Pristina to Skopje clear of snow and can it be driven on? > > Many thanks > > Happy New Year > > Kaye > From arapi55 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 02:27:36 2000 From: arapi55 at yahoo.com (Arben ARAPI) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:27:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina Message-ID: <20000104072736.27218.qmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> --- Kaye King wrote: > Hi > > Can anyone tell me what the weather is like in > Pristina now, please? it's about 4-5 below in the morning up to 0 in the afternoon. Is there a lot of snow? Is > the road from Pristina to Skopje clear of snow and > can it be driven on? yes there is a lot of snow. The road you are talking about is clear of snow cause KFOR is using that road for majority of their traffic. Be advised, that it takes at least 5-6hrs(or maybe more) for a non-KFOR vehicle to get to Pristina from Skopje. > Many thanks > > Happy New Year > > Kaye Arben Click!Cafe Prishtina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From arben.lila at tuwien.ac.at Tue Jan 4 06:19:43 2000 From: arben.lila at tuwien.ac.at (Arben Lila) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:19:43 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina In-Reply-To: <01bf5643$f1d30800$ab8f5dc2@kayeking> Message-ID: HI Kaye, I can't tell You much about the wether in Prishtina. I just wanted to warn about your happy99.exe attachement. That file is infected!!! Happy New Year Arben -----Original Message----- From: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com [mailto:prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com]On Behalf Of Kaye King Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 12:41 AM To: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina Hi Can anyone tell me what the weather is like in Pristina now, please? Is there a lot of snow? Is the road from Pristina to Skopje clear of snow and can it be driven on? Many thanks Happy New Year Kaye -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From ssander at ans.net Tue Jan 4 10:22:16 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:22:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina In-Reply-To: <20000104072736.27218.qmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tungat Arben, Po e shoh se po lajmerohesh nga ClickCafe momentlaisht. Deshta te pyes se si eshte atmosfera ne kete cafe, dhe se a po mushet plot? Poashtu, me interesoi se si eshte kycja ne Internet, a po keni far nderprerjesh. Para disa ditesh, lexova se sistemi i Internetit, i quajtur Dardania do te shfaqet neper Prishine e pastaj gjithe Kosove, se shpejti. A mos je i njoftum me kete projekt hiq? tung dhe urime senja e re! - Sandri prej Nju Jorku On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Arben ARAPI wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > --- Kaye King wrote: > > Hi > > > > Can anyone tell me what the weather is like in > > Pristina now, please? > it's about 4-5 below in the morning up to 0 in the > afternoon. > > Is there a lot of snow? Is > > the road from Pristina to Skopje clear of snow and > > can it be driven on? > > yes there is a lot of snow. The road you are talking > about is clear of snow cause KFOR is using that road > for majority of their traffic. Be advised, that it > takes at least 5-6hrs(or maybe more) for a non-KFOR > vehicle to get to Pristina from Skopje. > > Many thanks > > > > Happy New Year > > > > Kaye > > Arben > Click!Cafe > Prishtina > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From DJSpecsUCK at aol.com Tue Jan 4 12:19:15 2000 From: DJSpecsUCK at aol.com (DJSpecsUCK at aol.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:19:15 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina Message-ID: <0.9786940c.25a38593@aol.com> DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE FILE "HAPPY_99.exe" IT'S A VIRUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From Jordan_k at aps.edu Tue Jan 4 17:09:02 2000 From: Jordan_k at aps.edu (Keith Jordan) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 15:09:02 -0700 Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina References: <20000104072736.27218.qmail@web217.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38726F7D.6E4F18C6@aps.edu> Are there dial up internet connections available in Prishtina?? Would you know the number to call to set up an account in Prishtina??? I have a very good friend that lives about 6 kilometers from Prishtina and he would like to set up an account with someone in Prishtina to gain internet access??? thank you for your assistance, it would mean alot to our family. Keith Jordan From Jhjr1751 at aol.com Tue Jan 4 18:51:51 2000 From: Jhjr1751 at aol.com (Jhjr1751 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:51:51 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina Message-ID: <0.a96d4c2e.25a3e197@aol.com> let me know to thanxs jim holloway From kosova at jps.net Tue Jan 4 19:01:55 2000 From: kosova at jps.net (kosova at jps.net) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:01:55 -0800 Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina In-Reply-To: <38726F7D.6E4F18C6@aps.edu> Message-ID: Dear Keith, There is a new wireless ISP called The Kosova Internet Project (IPKO) formed in Prishtina. Additional information about them may be found on their website: http://www.ipko.org/ Sincerely, Naida Dukaj -----Original Message----- From: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com [mailto:prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com]On Behalf Of Keith Jordan Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 2:09 PM To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l Are there dial up internet connections available in Prishtina?? Would you know the number to call to set up an account in Prishtina??? I have a very good friend that lives about 6 kilometers from Prishtina and he would like to set up an account with someone in Prishtina to gain internet access??? thank you for your assistance, it would mean alot to our family. Keith Jordan _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l From besnik at alb-net.com Tue Jan 4 22:15:40 2000 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:15:40 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [Prishtina-l] Message-ID: <002d01bf572b$2616c560$e64379a5@petrit> Le ato, po mbasi qe DJ-in e kish marre gjumi, mikrofonin e kishin marre ne dore dy spikere te radios "Zeri i Suprave" edhe e kishin kalle krejt.... :) >ej engjel isha fatlum dhe morra pjese ne "party" ..zhurke ne Bronx dhe >metvertete D.J ishte i talentum ....ani ma me mikrofon " a real stand up >comedian" si Dice Clay-i..... >qka tjeter me thone vetem ...HIH HIP HUrayyy for the D Gjej... From juniku at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 00:03:20 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:03:20 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [Prishtina-l] Message-ID: <20000105050320.61864.qmail@hotmail.com> Mandej e kishin formuar Lidhjen Demokratike te Gruas per Bronx, Besnik! Mos ua merr hakun! >From: "Besnik Pula" >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Re: [Prishtina-l] >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:15:40 -0500 > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >Le ato, po mbasi qe DJ-in e kish marre gjumi, mikrofonin e kishin marre ne >dore dy spikere te radios "Zeri i Suprave" edhe e kishin kalle krejt.... :) > > >ej engjel isha fatlum dhe morra pjese ne "party" ..zhurke ne Bronx dhe > >metvertete D.J ishte i talentum ....ani ma me mikrofon " a real stand up > >comedian" si Dice Clay-i..... > >qka tjeter me thone vetem ...HIH HIP HUrayyy for the D Gjej... > > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From arapi55 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 02:55:27 2000 From: arapi55 at yahoo.com (Arben ARAPI) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:55:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina Message-ID: <20000105075527.332.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com> --- Keith Jordan wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Are there dial up internet connections available in > Prishtina?? Would > you know the number to call to set up an account in > Prishtina??? I have > a very good friend that lives about 6 kilometers > from Prishtina and he > would like to set up an account with someone in > Prishtina to gain > internet access??? thank you for your assistance, > it would mean alot to > our family. > > Keith Jordan Hi Keith, Unfortunately there are none yet...we're expecting a dial up service for the region of Prishtina on the mont of March (according to Kosovo Internet Project). But there is an Internet Cafe called 'Clic!kCafe', which opened up two weeks ago. It is located in Kurrizi (everybody in Prishtina knows where Kurrizi is). Tell your friend about this and he will easily find it. I'll help him out to establish a new email account so he can contact you. At my Cafe one can even use voice communication (NetMeeting, Freetel, etc)for free. Regards, Arben Arapi Click!Cafe Prishtina > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: > Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From arapi55 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 03:05:35 2000 From: arapi55 at yahoo.com (Arben ARAPI) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 00:05:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina Message-ID: <20000105080535.10793.qmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> --- Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Tungat Arben, > > Po e shoh se po lajmerohesh nga ClickCafe > momentlaisht. Deshta te pyes se > si eshte atmosfera ne kete cafe, dhe se a po mushet > plot? Poashtu, me > interesoi se si eshte kycja ne Internet, a po keni > far nderprerjesh. Para > disa ditesh, lexova se sistemi i Internetit, i > quajtur Dardania do te > shfaqet neper Prishine e pastaj gjithe Kosove, se > shpejti. A mos je i > njoftum me kete projekt hiq? > > tung dhe urime senja e re! Sander, Maspari, urime edhe juve senja e re. Atmosfera po ndreqet dita dites...po e kemi ni problem tjeter qi shpesh po na bllokon punet. Rryma. Tash e kom ble ni gjenerator edhe UPS-a per shumicen e komp kshtu qi problemi u zvoglu pak. Per Dardania nuk kom ndigju. Ekziston vetem nje provajder ne Prishtine e ai eshte IPKO. IPKO se shpejti, duke filluar prej muajit Mars, ka me i mbulu qytetet kryesore te Kosoves. Tung, Arben Arapi Click!Cafe Prishtina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com From jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 03:10:08 2000 From: jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com (Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:10:08 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] Life in Kosova/ë^/o/ Message-ID: <20000105081008.85197.qmail@hotmail.com> >Hi Jennifer, > >can you tell us more how people feel these days there? Do they feel >safe? Do you see young people (especially women) walking down the street >in the evening or are they afraid to venture out as is being reported in >the media... > >And do you have any information when will the airport be re-opened? > >Etrit. > > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 03:20:40 2000 From: jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com (Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:20:40 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] Life in Kosova/ë/o Message-ID: <20000105082041.29078.qmail@hotmail.com> Etrit, I can speak for everyone here, but my friends and I definately fell safe. I mean, you need to take some precautions, but you have to do that everywhere. I wouldn't leave my door unlocked, but I feel quite safe walking through downtown Prishtina at night. (As long as I don't fall on the ice.) If people in general don't feel safe walking around at night, it sure doesn't stop them. In Prishtina and Prizren, the streets are full every night. Even in the cold. Being a woman isn't a problem at all. We usually don't travel by ourselves, but that's more for cultural reasons than security ones. Now, that's speaking as an American, and from the experiences of my Albanian friends. The situation is totally different for minorities and some internationals (especially those with slavic nationalities). They usually don't go out at night at all. I don't know for sure when the airport will reopen, but the last I heard was not before the end of February. Jennifer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 03:31:13 2000 From: jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com (Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:31:13 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] Info and request Message-ID: <20000105083113.14236.qmail@hotmail.com> Road Conditions: As of this morning, the Prishtina/Shkup road is completely clear. There is alomost no traffic at the border. Info Request: Can anyone suggest someone in Prishtina, Prizren, or Shkup who can give private lessons in Albanian? Thanks! Jennifer ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ssander at ans.net Wed Jan 5 09:50:35 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:50:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [Prishtina-l] In-Reply-To: <002d01bf572b$2616c560$e64379a5@petrit> Message-ID: Pa pa pa... si deshmitar i kesaj dukurije, duhet te them se "Zeri i Suprave" ishte tejet i pasur me informata nga atdheu! - Sander On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Besnik Pula wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Le ato, po mbasi qe DJ-in e kish marre gjumi, mikrofonin e kishin marre ne > dore dy spikere te radios "Zeri i Suprave" edhe e kishin kalle krejt.... :) > > >ej engjel isha fatlum dhe morra pjese ne "party" ..zhurke ne Bronx dhe > >metvertete D.J ishte i talentum ....ani ma me mikrofon " a real stand up > >comedian" si Dice Clay-i..... > >qka tjeter me thone vetem ...HIH HIP HUrayyy for the D Gjej... > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From ssander at ans.net Wed Jan 5 09:53:14 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:53:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] weather in Pristina In-Reply-To: <20000105080535.10793.qmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Arben, Faleminderit per info dhe idea e UPS-it bash a mire! Suksese ne pune dhe te fala mushterive! tung - Sandri pi Nju Jorki On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Arben ARAPI wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > --- Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: > > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Tungat Arben, > > > > Po e shoh se po lajmerohesh nga ClickCafe > > momentlaisht. Deshta te pyes se > > si eshte atmosfera ne kete cafe, dhe se a po mushet > > plot? Poashtu, me > > interesoi se si eshte kycja ne Internet, a po keni > > far nderprerjesh. Para > > disa ditesh, lexova se sistemi i Internetit, i > > quajtur Dardania do te > > shfaqet neper Prishine e pastaj gjithe Kosove, se > > shpejti. A mos je i > > njoftum me kete projekt hiq? > > > > tung dhe urime senja e re! > > Sander, > > Maspari, urime edhe juve senja e re. > Atmosfera po ndreqet dita dites...po e kemi ni problem > tjeter qi shpesh po na bllokon punet. Rryma. Tash e > kom ble ni gjenerator edhe UPS-a per shumicen e komp > kshtu qi problemi u zvoglu pak. > Per Dardania nuk kom ndigju. Ekziston vetem nje > provajder ne Prishtine e ai eshte IPKO. IPKO se > shpejti, duke filluar prej muajit Mars, ka me i mbulu > qytetet kryesore te Kosoves. > > Tung, > > Arben Arapi > Click!Cafe > Prishtina > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From aqeli1 at tigger.cc.uic.edu Tue Jan 4 22:37:19 2000 From: aqeli1 at tigger.cc.uic.edu (Albi Qeli) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:37:19 -0800 Subject: [Prishtina-l] jag Message-ID: <000f01bf572e$2d3abec0$648df880@xyz.uic.edu> right now, on CBS a JAG episode is playing; something about a refugee brought aboard a carrier; the plot seems interesting; _--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_--_ http://icarus.cc.uic.edu/~aqeli1 From skii33 at fuse.net Wed Jan 5 11:06:00 2000 From: skii33 at fuse.net (skiibaby) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:06:00 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] happy99 virus removal Message-ID: <000a01bf5796$c5fbfd00$2b2f44d8@oemcomputer> Tung!! I have seen that a lot of people have been getting the happy 99 virus. Don't worry, it is non-destructive, and easy to get out of your system. For instructions on its removal, go to this link www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html Sincerely, Frank -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From juniku at hotmail.com Wed Jan 5 13:36:28 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:36:28 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Info and request Message-ID: <20000105183628.23601.qmail@hotmail.com> >Info Request: >Can anyone suggest someone in Prishtina, Prizren, or Shkup who can give >private lessons in Albanian? > >Thanks! > >Jennifer >______________________________________________________ Hello Jennifer! You should probably look for a professor in Prishtina called Mr. Ahmet Kelmendi. He has written one of the best grammar books of Albanian and used to teach at Prishtina University. I think he's retired now and could be possibly the best choice for you. However, I think he does not speak English. Taking this fact into account it might be good and bad. Good, because you would have to struggle more to speak only Albanian, and bad, because it would not be as much fun as learning with somebody who can console you when things don't go fast enough. He's a very nice gentleman and a great teacher. Try to contact him. I believe a lot of people know him to give you his phone number since I don't have it handy right now. Good luck, and let's hope we'll see you soon writing e mails on this list in Albanian!:-) Mireupafshim. Uk Lushi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From albert.avgustini at zg.tel.hr Wed Jan 5 16:03:01 2000 From: albert.avgustini at zg.tel.hr (ALBERT AVGUSTINI) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:03:01 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: Ju lutemi te na ndihmoni ku mundemi me u informu per personat e humbur ne luften qlirimtare te Kosoves. Ju falemnderohemi ne pergjegjje From dadushe at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 08:42:16 2000 From: dadushe at hotmail.com (DADUSHE M) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 08:42:16 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000106134216.33956.qmail@hotmail.com> http://www.familylinks.icrc.org/ THIS IS THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "ALBERT AVGUSTINI" Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com To: Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:03:01 +0100 --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l Ju lutemi te na ndihmoni ku mundemi me u informu per personat e humbur ne luften qlirimtare te Kosoves. Ju falemnderohemi ne pergjegjje _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From gonaaa at hotmail.com Thu Jan 6 11:16:12 2000 From: gonaaa at hotmail.com (Antigona Berisha) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 08:16:12 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Prishtina-L digest, Vol 1 #92 - 2 msgs Message-ID: <20000106161612.29413.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Jennifer, There are many people in Prishtina who would love to give albanian lessons, the trouble is that it's difficult to reach them. If you're in Prishtina try reaching a friend of mine- Nafi at 21-826 She's fluent in Enlish & Albanian. Or e-mail me direct at gonaaa at hotmail.com. This way I'll be able to give you more direct names & #'s. Sincerely, Antigona B. >From: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Prishtina-L digest, Vol 1 #92 - 2 msgs >Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 00:00:10 -0500 (EST) > > >Send Prishtina-L mailing list submissions to > prishtina-l at alb-net.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > prishtina-l-request at alb-net.com >You can reach the person managing the list at > prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than >"Re: Contents of Prishtina-L digest..." > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Info and request (Uk Lushi) > 2. (no subject) (ALBERT AVGUSTINI) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: "Uk Lushi" >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Info and request >Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 10:36:28 PST >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > > > > >Info Request: > >Can anyone suggest someone in Prishtina, Prizren, or Shkup who can give > >private lessons in Albanian? > > > >Thanks! > > > >Jennifer > >______________________________________________________ > >Hello Jennifer! > >You should probably look for a professor in Prishtina called Mr. Ahmet >Kelmendi. He has written one of the best grammar books of Albanian and used >to teach at Prishtina University. I think he's retired now and could be >possibly the best choice for you. However, I think he does not speak >English. Taking this fact into account it might be good and bad. Good, >because you would have to struggle more to speak only Albanian, and bad, >because it would not be as much fun as learning with somebody who can >console you when things don't go fast enough. He's a very nice gentleman >and >a great teacher. Try to contact him. I believe a lot of people know him to >give you his phone number since I don't have it handy right now. > > >Good luck, and let's hope we'll see you soon writing e mails on this list >in >Albanian!:-) > > >Mireupafshim. > >Uk Lushi >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: "ALBERT AVGUSTINI" >To: >Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:03:01 +0100 >charset="iso-8859-2" >Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > Ju lutemi te na ndihmoni ku mundemi me u informu per personat e >humbur ne luften qlirimtare te Kosoves. > > Ju falemnderohemi ne pergjegjje > > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >Prishtina-L mailing list >Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > >End of Prishtina-L Digest ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From iliriana at usa.net Thu Jan 6 15:44:12 2000 From: iliriana at usa.net (Iliriana Mushkolaj) Date: 6 Jan 00 15:44:12 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Life in Kosova/ë^/o/ Message-ID: <20000106204412.21243.qmail@nwcst323.netaddress.usa.net> >We usually don't travel by ourselves, but that's more for cultural >reasons than security ones. Jennifer, Could you please let us know what cultural reasons are you talking about? How did you come up with that idea???? By living in Kosova!? I don't believe that anybody from this list would buy that. At least not those who lived in Kosova. I've lived my whole life in Kosova, and never had to ask somebody to travel with me when I needed to. I don't believe that you would attract anybody?s attention - at least not for cultural reasons - if you would travel by yourself. Iliriana ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From rdavis at utica.gannett.com Fri Jan 7 15:46:00 2000 From: rdavis at utica.gannett.com (Davis, Russ (Utica)) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:46:00 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000107203238.3F5AF22EA@smtpgate.gannett.com> TO ALL: My name is Russ Davis. I'm associate editor of the Utica NY Observer- Dispatch, a 50,000-subscriber newspaper in an area about 250 miles northwest of New York City. Part of my job is to write a weekly column. Off and on over the past year, I have written about Kosovo, and recently wrote a column about a young woman from Prishtina who is attending a nearby college. I signed up to the list in hopes that others on it could be kind enough to give me a better sense than I currently have of what life is like in the city now, and to just generally improve my knowledge of Kosovo. Many thanks in advance to anyone kind enough to respond. Russ. Davis From juniku at hotmail.com Fri Jan 7 16:23:20 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 13:23:20 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Russ Davis Message-ID: <20000107212320.60290.qmail@hotmail.com> >TO ALL: My name is Russ Davis. I'm associate editor of the Utica NY Observer- Dispatch, a 50,000-subscriber newspaper in an area about 250 miles northwest of New York City. Part of my job is to write a weekly column. Off and on over the past year, I have written about Kosovo, and recently wrote a column about a young woman from Prishtina who is attending a nearby college. I signed up to the list in hopes that others on it could be kind enough to give me a better sense than I currently have of what life is like in the city now, and to just generally improve my knowledge of Kosovo. Many thanks in advance to anyone kind enough to respond. Russ Davis Dear Mr. Davis, Thank you for your interest in Kosova. As a native from Kosova and as somebody who has a short background in journalism I would strongly suggest you to go and visit Kosova and become familiar with the real situation there. If you decide to do so and need any help let me please know at juniku at hotmail.com. I believe I could provide you with some names and numbers of people in Prishtina who could guide you throughout Kosova. If you're not able to undertake a trip to Kosova, please feel free to contact the Albanian community in New York, which is mainly concentrated in the Bronx (Arthur Avenue), or any Kosova Organization in the city. I think they will be more than happy to be at your disposal for whatever you might need. Best regards U. Lushi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Jan 10 17:52:44 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:52:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 14 Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:46:20 +0100 From: Nol Shala - Me 8. Janar 2000 n? mbar? Kosov?n u p?rcjell festa Fit?r-Bajrami me aktivitete t? shumta kulturore-artistike. Posa?arisht vlen t? p?rmendet manifestimi qendror i organizuar nga Bashk?sia Islame e Kosov?s i cili u mbajt n? pallatin e rinis? n? Prishtin?, n? t? cil?n qen? t? pranish?m nj? num?r i madh i besimtar?ve. Me k?t? rast kryetari i kryesis? s? bashk?sis? Islame t? Kosov?s Prof. Dr. Rexhep Boja theksoj se vendosja e rendit, qet?sis? dhe paqes n? Kosov?, nuk ?sht? obligim vet?m i forcave t? KFOR-it, policis? nd?rkomb?tare t? UNMIK-ut ose e TMK-s?, por ai ?sht? obligim i ?do qytetari t? Kosov?s. N? Kosov?n e lir? m? nuk duhet t? ket? vend p?r hakmarrje, djegie e vrasje t? njer?zve t? pafajsh?m vet?m pse ata i p?rkasin nj? feje ose kombi tjet?r ose flasin nj? gjuh? tjet?r. Faj?sis? kolektive n? Kosov? duhet th?n? stop nj?her? e p?rgjithmon?. Gjat? dit?s duke filluar nga ora 12:00 para teatrit komb?tar t? Kosov?s u organizua programi kulturor-zbavit?s n? t? cil?n mor?n pjes? teatri i kukullave "Dodona", ansambli i f?mij?ve "Xixillonjat", ansambli "Shota" etj. Bashk?sia Islame e Kosov?s dhe organizatat humanitare islame me k?t? rast iu ndan f?mij?ve t? pranish?m dhurata t? ndryshme. - Jav?n e kaluar n? lokalet e sht?pis? s? kultur?s n? Prizren ?sht? b?r? promovimi i librit "Rapsodi Kosovar?" i shkrimtarit t? njohur Sulejman Krasniqi. Autori k?t? vep?r e botoi p?r her? t? par? n? Kosov?, pas dyzet vite ndjekje n? egzil nga organet policore t? ish-Jugosllavis?. Promovimin e k?tij libri e b?ri klubi letrar "F.S. Noli" nga Prizreni, kupari mor?n pjes? krijuesit letrar nga Prizreni, Prishtina dhe Shqip?ria. - K?tyre dit?ve doli nga shtypi numri i tret? i revist?s p?r femra "Sfinga". N? k?t? num?r prej mbi 200 faq?sh jan? p?rfshir? shkrime nga kultura, moda, arti, literatur? t? autor?ve vendas dhe t? huaj. Ky num?r p?rmban gjithashtu piktura t? artist?ve bashk?kohor kosovar?. N? k?t? num?r shkruan p?r revist?n Nerimane Kamberi, Suzana ?apriqi, Anton Nik? Berisha, Kujtim Ramadani dhe t? autor t? huaj. - N? Prishtin? me 5. Janar 2000 n? teatrin "Dodona" u shfaq komedia "Stjuardesa" e autorit Marc Cameleot n? regjin? e Faruk Begollit. Rrolet i luajt?n Mentor Zymberaj, Ilire Vinca, Xhejlane Godanci, Armend Morina, Emine Toska dhe t? tjer?t. - Gjat? jav?s s? kaluar n? Kafe-Galerin? "A" n? Prishtin? ?sht? hapur ekspozita individuale e piktorit Aziz Nimani. Mbi 40 piktura t? realizuara n? teknik?n e vajit dhe pastelit jan? rezultat e nj? pun?s kontuitive t? piktorit t? cilin kritika fran?eze e ka cil?suar si piktor t? drit?s. - N? teatrin komb?tar t? Kosov?s kan? filluar provat p?r vodvilin "Martesa e Barionit" t? komediografit fran?ez George Fenido. Regjin? e k?saj komedie do t? b?j? regjisori Atdhe Gashi. N? rrolet kryesore do t? paraqiten Blerim Gjaci, Afrim Kasapolli, Hysnie Mu?aj, Ali Ahmeti, Xhejlane Godanci, Anisa Ismaili dhe t? tjer?t. Me k?t? shfaqje fillon pun?n teatri komb?tar n? mileniumin e ri. Regjisori Atdhe Gashi theksoj se: "Bota e personazheve t? Fenidos e prezentuar n? k?t? vodvil ng?rthen n? vetvete nj? shkall? t? lart? t? nd?rlikuar, prandaj realizimi skenik i tyre ?sht? mjaft i r?nd?sish?m p?r mua". Premiera e k?saj shfaqje do t? jipet rreth dat?s 10. Shkurt 2000 n? Prishtin?. - N? Prizren k?tyre dit?ve ?sht? hapur ekspozita e piktor?ve prizrenas "Mesazh fundshekulli" n? kuad?r t? manifestimeve jubilare t? rinis?. Me k?t? rast u prezentuan veprat e piktor?ve Zeq? To?i, Bashkim Du?i, Agim Kryeziu, Hamdi Bardhi, Sami Ahmetaj, Valbona Dukagjini, Masar Drini dhe i ndjeri Tasim Shehu. Veprat artistike paraqesin motive nga p?rjetimet e popullit t? Kosov?s gjat? vitit t? kaluar. Ekspozita ?sht? e hapur n? lokalet e sht?pis? s? kultur?s "Xhemail Berisha" me moton "T? kontribojm? p?r nj? jet? m? t? mir?, p?r pa?e dhe demokraci". P?r gazet?n e Kulturserver Kosova raporton Beq? Mulliqi nga Prishtina ****************************************************** * the online-community for art+culture http://www.kulturserver.de * ****************************************************** From jpmoser at gmx.ch Fri Jan 7 19:09:43 2000 From: jpmoser at gmx.ch (Jean-Pierre Moser) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 01:09:43 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Situation of infrastructure in Voksh by Decani Message-ID: <004601bf596d$746756a0$97d2e6c2@scenicproc5> Dear Ladys or Sirs, I'm asking for some friends, refugees of Kosovo, for the situation in Voksh by Decan. There biggest interest is on communitie official offices. Is it possible to order documents like ID-cards, confirmations of birthday (for marriages) etc.? Thank you for your support. Kind regards Jean-Pierre Moser -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From shdibrani at paus.ch Sat Jan 8 15:44:10 2000 From: shdibrani at paus.ch (Shefqet Dibrani) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 21:44:10 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Shkrim_p=EBr_Enver_Malokun?= Message-ID: <001101bf5a19$3605df60$763cd1c2@shdibrani> Vrasja e Enver Malokut KA ARDHUR KOHA P?R T'U NDRI?UAR VRASJA E ENVER MALOKUT N? vrasjen e Enver Malokut, p?rve? sh?rbimeve sekrete serbe kan? gisht edhe klani shqiptar i integralist?ve jugosllav Shkruan : Shefqet DIBRANI Lexues t? nderuar Sot, redaksia e "Koh?s" ka filluar pun?n n? or?n 18.00. I gjith? qyteti i Prishtin?s ka qen pa rrym? dhe deri n? k?t? koh? na jan? bllokuar lidhjet telefonike, Reuters, komunikimi me agjencit? e tjera, me institucionet q? jan? t? lidhura me mjetin e Internetit... N? k?t? rast fal?nderojm? punonj?sit e shtypshkronj?s n? Gjermani q? mund?suan q? gazeta "Koha" t? shtypet p?r nj? or? m? von?, pra mund?suan q? t? shtyhet afati i dor?zimit t? faqeve dhe krijuan kushte, q? Ju, t? keni mund?si, q? sot ta lexoni "Koh?n ditore". Numri i temave t? prezentuara nuk ?sht? mozaiku i t? gjitha ndodhive n? Kosov?. P?r sot, jemi munduar q? t? p?rfshihen vet?m temat krejt?sisht t? nevojshme. K?rkojm? falje p?r fajin q? nuk e kemi. Me respekt Redaksia <>, 12 janar 1999, faqe 2. Ndoshta do t? ishte mir?, k?tu t? fillojm? zb?rthimin e alibis s? krijuar se drejtuesit e gazet?s "Koha ditore", p?rkatsisht Veton Surroi e Baton Haxhiu jan? p?rsona m? t? implikuar n? atentatin kund?r Enver Malokut. Ata tashm? duhet t? flasin p?r t? gjitha, ata duhet t? sqarojn? se a kan? gisht dhe a jan? t? implikuar n? k?t? vrasje si dhe n? p?rpjekjen p?r ta vrar? edhe dr.Sabri Hamitin. Po m? mir? t? nisim zb?rthimin e k?saj letreje p?rkatsisht t? "sqarimit" t? redaksis? "Koha ditore", pastaj t? shpjegojm? mesazhin e k?tij "sqarimi" p?r t'ia hequr peten lakrorit do t? thoshte nj? urti popullore. N? mitologjin? ton? ?sht? nj? sintagm? e cila rr?fen p?r k?t? ??shtje: Kur vras?sin e z? gjaku, n? p?rpjekje p?r t? ikur ai duhet t? l? nj? shenj? nga trupi i tij p?r t'u liruar nga ankthi p?r krimin e b?r?. Zakonisht, p?r t'u mbuluar gjurm?t, vras?si ka marr? nj? shenj? t? panjohur. N? shumic?n e rasteve p?rmes k?tyre shenjave jan? gjetur vras?sit. Pra p?rmes k?tij sh?nimi, (shenj? e ankthit vrastar), mund t? zgjidhet alibija e krijuar se drejtuesit e gazet?s "Koha ditore", p?rkatsisht Veton Surroi e Baton Haxhiu kan? ditur p?r atentatin q? do t? b?hej mbi Enver Malokun. Pra edhe nese ata personalisht nuk e kan? t?rhequr gishtin e krimit, ata kan? p?rgjegjsi p?r t? sqaruar deri n? fund t? gjitha ato q? i kan? ditur. Edhe at?her? dhe as sot nuk do t? v?rehet p?r asnj? gj? se gazet?s <> e dat?s 12 janar '99 i ka munguar ai mozaiku i ngjarjeve q? thuhej n? "sqarim". K?t? alibi nuk e justifikon rryma q? qenka ndalur sepse kjo nuk ka ndodhur vet?m at? dit? dhe se ajo ka mundur t? ndalet me nj? t? shtypur butoni nga nj? dor? vrastare, as interneti nuk mund ta justifikon e aq m? pak ta arsyeton redaksin?, por thjesht viktima ishte vonuar n? pun?t e p?rditshme rutinore q? kryente n? QIK, kurse vras?sve nuk duhej t'u d?shtonte k?saj radhe sepse si duket faqet e gazet?s <> kan? qen me koh? t? p?rgatitur p?r ta dh?n? lajmin t? par?t. Po t? heqen paralel?t mes vrasjes s? Enver Malokut m? 11 janar 1999 dhe vrasj?s s? Jusuf G?rvall?s m? 17 janar 1982 (n? dy vende krejtsisht t? ndryshme), do t? nxjerrim p?rfundime t? ngjashme dhe mjaft? t? sakta. At?her? ajo q? d?shtoi nga automatiku serb u realizua me skalperin e mjekut Vidi?, kurse mjeku humbi pa nam pa nishan. Nuk duhet harruar se nj? p?rson q? shtirej mik i viktim?s i fundit ?sht? larguar nga sht?pia e Jusuf G?rvall?s pa therr? n? k?mb? dhe kjo ka ndodhur vet?m gjys?m ore pa u b?r? krimi. Kurse personi n? fjal? vazhdimisht ka mbllaqitur n? em?r t? LPK-s? tek varri i tyre p?r ?do p?rvjetor. Ai ka raportuar edhe nga Gjirokastra me rastin e "revolucionit t? vonuar demokratik", ka udh?hequr Fondin <>, primat q? ia pat besuar Shtabi i P?rgjithsh?m i U?K-s? dhe s'ka dyshim sot ka rol me r?ndsi n? jet?n politike t? "progresit" komunist n? Kosov?. T? kthehemi tek gazeta "Koha ditore", pse ?sht? dashur t? sqarohen lexuesit p?r pengesat e rrym?s elektrike dhe t? Internetit, kur gazeta e ka t? mjaftueshme mozaikun me faqe t? t?ra, (m? sakt gjysma e gazet?s, ?sht? mbushur me p?rditshm?ria kosovare), as mozaiku nd?rkomb?tar nuk mungon, nuk mungojn? as temat analitike, as komenti i sllavistit Hans Jakim Lanksh, nuk kan? munguar as reklamat as shkrimet p?r sport, po ?far? paska munguar?! At?her? me t? drejt shtrohet pyetja: Pse ?sht? dashur sqarim n? fjal?? Vall? a mos ka qen? justifikim mbi krimin e b?r?. N? t? v?rtet? pse ?sht? dshur ai sqarim kur gazeta distribuohet n? rrjetin e shitjes tek t? nes?rmen n? mengjes, dhe ?far? i duhet lexuesit t? dij? p?r k?to pengesa kur gazet?s nuk i ka munguar asgj?? Pra gazeta <> e ka dh?n? lajmin e para dhe n? m?nyr? t? plot? se si ?sht? b?r? atentati mbi Enver Malokun dhe ?sht? t?rhequr nga ky trajtim tamam sikurse mjeku Vidi? i cili humbi panam e nishan n? rastin e vrasjes s? Jusuf G?rvall?s. Po ashtu dyshimet i shton vet sqarimi i redaksis? ku gazeta "Koha ditore", vet?m pas atentatit e paska b?r? thyerjen (totale), t? pamjes s? gazet?s. Po si ka ndodhur kjo kur rryma ka munguar vazhdimisht at? dit? dhe si ka pasur mund?si t? b?het gjith? kjo pun? mbrenda nj? kohe kaq t? shkurt?r. Kjo duhet t? sqarohet nga drejtuesit e gazet?s?! Pastaj edhe shtypshkronja (n? Gjermani, ah n? Gjermani), ?sht? dashur me i pritur, deri sa kan? shkuar n? vendin e ngjarjes, deri sa e kan? kryer ekspertiz?n, deri sa i kan? anketuar d?shmitar dhe policin? serbe, pastaj personelin e spitalit, v?zhguesit e huaj dhe ?sht? dashur t? kthehen n? redaksi ta b?jn? komentin dhe ta thyejn gazet?n, gj? q? edhe p?r njoh?sit m? t? mir? t? gazet?s kjo ??shtje tashm? b?het m? e komplikuar. Por p?r ?udi <> ?sht? gjindur n? vendin e ngjarjes vet?m 15 minuta pas atentatit, vet?m ata e dijn? se vras?sit paskan "qeshur me nj? vajz?" dhe e dijn? n? cil?n gjuh? kan? folur ajo?! Do t? jet? fatkeqsi n?se v?rtetohet se vajza ka qen nj?ra nga raportueset e <> e cila me koh? kishte dalur n? vendin e ngjarjes. K?to dhe mjaft? alibi n? vazhdim b?jn? t? mjaftueshme q? t? ngritet procedur hetuesie kund?r gazet?s "Koha ditore" p?rkatsisht kund?r Veton Surroit e Baton Haxhiut. N?se at?her? nuk ?sht? b?r?, s? paku tashti kur Kosova ?sht? ?liruar ka mund?si. Tashm? nuk u b? ajo "Pavar?sia" p?r t? cil?n qe angazhuar vazhdimisht stafi i k?saj gazete, pra Kosova i shp?toi atij lakut t? integralizmit jugosllav, dhe tashti ka mund?si t? zgjidhet kjo alibi dhe mjaft? alibi t? tjera. Gjithmon vras?sit p?rpiqen t? mbulojn? gjurm?t me deklerata dhe telegrame, bile ata t? par?t jan? q? shkruajn?. K?shtu ka ndodhur edhe me rastin e Enver Malokut ku <> e dat?s 13 janar '99 sjell shkrimin e Arbana Islamit e cila edhe n? k?t? rast nuk mundet me kap?rcyer pa e ?pluar tamam lakuriq, at? verbin ironizues q? e ka n?p?r t? gjitha shkrimet e saja. Pra koncepti redakltues i k?saj gazete i ka b?r? vrastare edhe grat??! Ka harruar zonja apo zonjusha A.Islami se E.Maloku ka l?n? pas vet?s n? m?shir?n e koh?s dhe n? podrumet e nj? pallati n? "Bregu u Diellit II", gruan dhe tre kalamaj. N?se Arbana ?sht? e martuar dhe ka f?mij? le t'i qon mend?t tashti tek f?mij?t e vet, n?se jo i uroj martes? t? shpejt? dhe plleshm?ri t? sigurt. Pastaj pas ca vitesh le ta kujton shkrimin p?r Enver Malokun dhe podrumin ku rrojn? f?mijet e Shefit t? QIK-ut E.Maloku. Dyshimet i shton edhe deklerata e Veton Surroit p?r rastin n? fjal?, pastaj ai ka vrapuar p?r t? d?rguar edhe telegram ngushllimi q? ia ka emituar n? internet "Informatori ditor 2299-B" i dat?s 13.1.1999 q? e distribuon Qendra p?r Informim e Kosov?s. "Koha": Vuri n? sh?njest?r gjenocidin serb mbi Kosov?n Prishtin?, 13 janar (QIK) - QIK-u ka humbur kolegun dhe mikun profesional, kurse familja e ka humbur njeriun e p?rkushtimit komb?tar deri n? momentin e fundit n? koh?n m? t? r?nd? p?r Kosov?n, gazetarin? dhe p?r mbijetes?n shqiptare. N? koh?n kur Enveri b?ri p?rpjekjen p?r t? bashkuar subjektin shqiptar - me guximin e tij shpalosi shum? elemente p?r?ar?se nd?r shqiptar? - vuri n? sh?njest?r gjenocidin serb mbi Kosov?n dhe ishte nd?r t? par?t q? u k?rc?nua se nuk do t'i ndalim mediumet tona duke th?n?: "Po qe nevoja, do t'i botojm? ato edhe n? male". Si duket, Enverin e vrau guximi profesional dhe intenca p?r t'i bashkuar shqiptar?t. K?t? dikush nuk e deshi, thuhet n? ngush?llimet e Redaksis? dhe kolektivit t? gazet?s "Koha". (Marr? nga: QIK-Informatori ditor nr.2299-B/13.1.1999). M?13 janar '99 ?sht? mbajtur dit? zie, gazetat <> dhe < q? botoheshin n? Per?ndim e pat?n sh?nuar me shiritin e zi, po ?uditrisht k?t? gj? nuk e b?ri gazeta <> e cila nuk mbajti zi dhe as nuk jua sqaroi lexuesve t? saj pse veproi k?shtu, ishte faji tek rryma, interneti apo diku tjet?r... si duket kjo gazet? qe g?zuar kur ?sht? likujduar p?rsoni num?r nj? n? fush?n e informimit, apo si? e cil?son n? telegramin e tij edhe vet Veton Surroi "Enverin q? b?ri p?rpjekje p?r t? bashkuar subjektin shqiptar..., Enverin q? vuri n? sh?njest?r gjenocidin serb mbi Kosov?n dhe ishte nd?r t? par?t q? u k?rc?nua se nuk do t'i ndalim mediumet tona". Tashm? dihet se Enver Maloku ishte i pari q? ka protestuar kund?r k?rcenimit serb n? mbrojtje t? gazetave pra edhe t? "Koh?s ditore", kurse Serbia qe k?rc?nuar se do t'i mbyllte gazetat shqipe si <>, <>, <>, por ?udit?risht ajo e pat mbyllur vet?m gazet?n "Bujku" por jo edhe "Koh?n ditore" si? iu pat dh?n? pompzitet n? at? koh? edhe nga TVSH-ja. K?t? luft? speciale t? Serbis? e kam trajtuar n? shkrimin: <>?!, botuar n? <> Zvic?r t? dat?s 12 n?ntor 1998, intenc? e ngritur pik?risht nga <>. Pastaj para se t? b?hej atentati mbi Enver Malokun, <> i pat dh?n? pompozitet k?tij k?rcenimi dhe kush ka pasur mend e ka ditur se kjo do t? plasi diku tjet?r dhe me t? v?rtet plasi. K?t? analogji e shpjegon edhe nj? luft? speciale q? lidhet me nj? ngjarje m? t? hershme politike q? pat ndodhur n? Kosov?, prandaj qytetar?t e Kosov?s le ta ?ojn? mendjen n? koh?n e "Amandamenteve Kushtetuese" ku ka qen e orientuar v?mendja e popullit ton?. Tek amandamentet vrastare ap tek ylli komunist n? Flamurin shqiptar, yll t? cilin as vet serbet, sot nuk e durojn? n? flamurin e tyre. Po Enver Maloku si intelektual dhe personalitet (q? fatkeqsisht vet?m pas vdekj?s ia pranojm? vlerat) e kreu misionin e tij, "at? e vrau guximi intelektual" ka th?n? Surroi, po Baton Haxhiu a e ka harruar "Press Konferenc?n" p?r k?t? ??shtje q? ia aranzhmoi Enver Maloku, a e vret nd?rgjegja sot Botonin dhe a do t? ka guxim intelektual ta p?rmend emrin e tij. Po m? mir? t'i kthehem Veton Surroit p?r ta pyetur me ?far? morali qytetar ia p?rmend ai emrin Enver Malokut kur ?sht? p?rsoni num?r nj? q? ka g?rryer vazhdimisht n? dinjitetin moral e njer?zor t? Enver Malokut, ?sht? njeriu q? pa asnj? dinjitet ia ka n?n?muar "guximin" dhe pun?n profesionale, ?sht? personi q? ka ushtruar piratizmin m? primitiv mbi informatat e sajuara nga QIK-u, (lexo Enver Maloku), dhe gjith?her? ia ka mohuar Institucionin. Gazeta "Koha ditore", p?rkatsisht Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu le t? k?thehen dhe t'i shfletojn? revistat <>, mars/prill 1997, p?rkat?sisht nr.147-149/1997, dhe shum? shkrime e denigrime t? tjera q? nuk po i p?rmendi k?saj radhe p?r t'i bindur se m? shum? se Serbin?, puna dhe guximi i Enver Malokut i ka penguar k?ta. Po jua rikujtoj vet?m nj? konstatim t? z.Maloku q? e pat botuar n? <> ku shkruante: "Autori i shkrimit, duket qart? se b?n pjes? n? grupin e politikan?ve t? vet?quajtur atdhetar?, t? cil?t ..., jan? p?rpjekur q? ta imponojn? "Koh?n ditore" si gazet? ideale shqiptare, edhe pse kjo gazet? ?sht? e regjistruar n? Serbi (jo n? Beograd). Anonimi i "Koh?s ditore" do t? ket? mund?si t? ket? edhe m? shum? kontakte me "Koh?n" posa kjo t? fitoj? frekuencat e radios dhe t? televizionit n? Serbi." (Marr? nga QIK-u i dat?s s? p?rmendur m? lart?). Pik?risht n? dit?t q? u likuidua Enver Maloku, gazeta e Veton Surroi botonte sihariqin se nisi emitimi i par? i radiostacionit <> me frekuenca e tij t? regjistruara n? ... dhe dihet se S?rbia ka okupuar Radio Televizionin e Prishtin?s, ka mbyllur gazet?n <> p?r ta ngulfatur informimin shqip, dhe tashti shtrohet pyetja: Si n?nkuptohen gjith? ato p?rparsi q? ia pat dh?n? Veton Surroit pik?risht n? koh?n kur U?K-ja p?rballej me Luft?n m? barbare n? malet e Kosov?s. Nxitimi p?r ta vrar Enver Malokun si duket qe lidhur edhe me nj? ngjarje tjet?r, pra me viziten e Liderit t? s? majtes shqiptare nga Kosova akademik Rexhep Qosja n? Shqip?ri, ku mbahet mend deklerata skandaloze n? TVSH, n? t? cil?n ai "jua njeh t? drejt?n serb?ve t? Kosov?s p?r vetvendosje" q? n?nkuptohet t? drejt?n p?r cop?zimin e Kosov?s, dukuri me t? cil?n po p?rballet Mitrovica e sotme. A nuk ?sht? koha p?r t'i p?rmbledhur t? gjitha shkrimet e botuara tek revista "Koha" dhe tek gazeta "Koha ditore" t? cilat ju kan? prir? atentateve mbi Enver Malokun e dr.Sabri Hamitin si dhe kund?r nj? elite intelektuale q? vepronin n?n? strehen e LDK-s? dhe t? Qeveris? s? Par? t? Republik?s s? Kosov?s, dhe k?to shkrime t? p?rkthehen n? gjuh?n e KFOR-it, UNMIK-ut si dhe t'i d?rgohen atij asociacionit q? e ushqen me Fonde t? majme Veton Surroin dhe atij tjetrit q? e ka nderuar me ?mim Baton Haxhiun p?r t? par? se ?far? kan? b?r? n? "demokratizimin e v?rtet?" t? Kosov?s. Do t? ishte me interes n? demokratizimin e Kosov?s sikur k?to materiale t? deponohen edhe n? Tribunalin e Hag?s dhe t? hap?t procedur? e rregullt kund?r krimeve gjat? Luft?s n? Kosov?. ?do tendenc? p?r t'i mbuluar k?to krime do ta vazhgis demokratizimin e Kosov?s dhe do t? d?shmon p?r nj? shoq?ri t? pa aft? p?r ta ndar? shapin nga shiqeri. Nuk ka asnj? dyshim se vrasja e Enver Malokut ka qitur n? pah? at? an?n imorale, at? shpirtin kriminal t? asaj shtrese e cila p?r t? gjall? pat g?rryer n? dinjitetin e tij, ia pat?n mohuar pun?n dhe tash nuk e p?rmendin, nuk em?rtojn? rrug? e as sheshe dhe madje nuk interesohet kush p?r fatin e familj?s s? tij. Kjo tem? ?sht? e ve?ant? e cila duhet t? trajtohet ve?mas nga njer?zit e LDK-s? dhe t? institucioneve t? Kosov?s, e sidomos nga Qendra p?r Informim e Kosov?s p?r ta zbardhur krimin e ndodhur m? 11 janar 1999 n? "Bregun e Diellit II" n? Prishtin?. M? 6 janar 2000 *Botuar n? gazet?n "Bota sot", 8 janar 2000 -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From mentor at alb-net.com Sat Jan 8 11:02:47 2000 From: mentor at alb-net.com (Mentor Cana) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 11:02:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Per shume vjet e Gezuar! Message-ID: Tungjatjeta, Per shume vjet dhe Gezuar festa e Fitr Bajramit te gjithe besimtareve muslimane! te fala, Mentor Cana From dardan at alb-net.com Mon Jan 10 18:23:12 2000 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:23:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Shkrim_p=EBr_Enver_Malokun?= In-Reply-To: <001101bf5a19$3605df60$763cd1c2@shdibrani> Message-ID: Ju kisha lutur qe te mos distribuoni akuza, thashetheme, e hetime te stilit te Sherlok Holmsit ne kete Liste. Nese jeni te interesuar, mund ta hapim listen hetimet-vazhdojne at alb-net.com, ose HagaJuPret at alb-net.com Dardan Blaku alb-net.com co-administrator On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Shefqet Dibrani wrote: > Vrasja e Enver Malokut > > KA ARDHUR KOHA P?R T'U NDRI?UAR VRASJA E ENVER MALOKUT > > > N? vrasjen e Enver Malokut, p?rve? sh?rbimeve sekrete serbe kan? gisht edhe klani shqiptar i integralist?ve jugosllav > > Shkruan : Shefqet DIBRANI > > Lexues t? nderuar > > Sot, redaksia e "Koh?s" ka filluar pun?n n? or?n 18.00. I gjith? qyteti i Prishtin?s ka qen pa rrym? dhe deri n? k?t? koh? na jan? bllokuar lidhjet telefonike, Reuters, komunikimi me agjencit? e tjera, me institucionet q? jan? t? lidhura me mjetin e Internetit... > > N? k?t? rast fal?nderojm? punonj?sit e shtypshkronj?s n? Gjermani q? mund?suan q? gazeta "Koha" t? shtypet p?r nj? or? m? von?, pra mund?suan q? t? shtyhet afati i dor?zimit t? faqeve dhe krijuan kushte, q? Ju, t? keni mund?si, q? sot ta lexoni "Koh?n ditore". > > Numri i temave t? prezentuara nuk ?sht? mozaiku i t? gjitha ndodhive n? Kosov?. P?r sot, jemi munduar q? t? p?rfshihen vet?m temat krejt?sisht t? nevojshme. > > K?rkojm? falje p?r fajin q? nuk e kemi. > > Me respekt Redaksia > > <>, 12 janar 1999, faqe 2. > > Ndoshta do t? ishte mir?, k?tu t? fillojm? zb?rthimin e alibis s? krijuar se drejtuesit e gazet?s "Koha ditore", p?rkatsisht Veton Surroi e Baton Haxhiu jan? p?rsona m? t? implikuar n? atentatin kund?r Enver Malokut. Ata tashm? duhet t? flasin p?r t? gjitha, ata duhet t? sqarojn? se a kan? gisht dhe a jan? t? implikuar n? k?t? vrasje si dhe n? p?rpjekjen p?r ta vrar? edhe dr.Sabri Hamitin. Po m? mir? t? nisim zb?rthimin e k?saj letreje p?rkatsisht t? "sqarimit" t? redaksis? "Koha ditore", pastaj t? shpjegojm? mesazhin e k?tij "sqarimi" p?r t'ia hequr peten lakrorit do t? thoshte nj? urti popullore. > > N? mitologjin? ton? ?sht? nj? sintagm? e cila rr?fen p?r k?t? ??shtje: Kur vras?sin e z? gjaku, n? p?rpjekje p?r t? ikur ai duhet t? l? nj? shenj? nga trupi i tij p?r t'u liruar nga ankthi p?r krimin e b?r?. Zakonisht, p?r t'u mbuluar gjurm?t, vras?si ka marr? nj? shenj? t? panjohur. N? shumic?n e rasteve p?rmes k?tyre shenjave jan? gjetur vras?sit. Pra p?rmes k?tij sh?nimi, (shenj? e ankthit vrastar), mund t? zgjidhet alibija e krijuar se drejtuesit e gazet?s "Koha ditore", p?rkatsisht Veton Surroi e Baton Haxhiu kan? ditur p?r atentatin q? do t? b?hej mbi Enver Malokun. Pra edhe nese ata personalisht nuk e kan? t?rhequr gishtin e krimit, ata kan? p?rgjegjsi p?r t? sqaruar deri n? fund t? gjitha ato q? i kan? ditur. > > Edhe at?her? dhe as sot nuk do t? v?rehet p?r asnj? gj? se gazet?s <> e dat?s 12 janar '99 i ka munguar ai mozaiku i ngjarjeve q? thuhej n? "sqarim". K?t? alibi nuk e justifikon rryma q? qenka ndalur sepse kjo nuk ka ndodhur vet?m at? dit? dhe se ajo ka mundur t? ndalet me nj? t? shtypur butoni nga nj? dor? vrastare, as interneti nuk mund ta justifikon e aq m? pak ta arsyeton redaksin?, por thjesht viktima ishte vonuar n? pun?t e p?rditshme rutinore q? kryente n? QIK, kurse vras?sve nuk duhej t'u d?shtonte k?saj radhe sepse si duket faqet e gazet?s <> kan? qen me koh? t? p?rgatitur p?r ta dh?n? lajmin t? par?t. Po t? heqen paralel?t mes vrasjes s? Enver Malokut m? 11 janar 1999 dhe vrasj?s s? Jusuf G?rvall?s m? 17 janar 1982 (n? dy vende krejtsisht t? ndryshme), do t? nxjerrim p?rfundime t? ngjashme dhe mjaft? t? sakta. > > At?her? ajo q? d?shtoi nga automatiku serb u realizua me skalperin e mjekut Vidi?, kurse mjeku humbi pa nam pa nishan. Nuk duhet harruar se nj? p?rson q? shtirej mik i viktim?s i fundit ?sht? larguar nga sht?pia e Jusuf G?rvall?s pa therr? n? k?mb? dhe kjo ka ndodhur vet?m gjys?m ore pa u b?r? krimi. Kurse personi n? fjal? vazhdimisht ka mbllaqitur n? em?r t? LPK-s? tek varri i tyre p?r ?do p?rvjetor. Ai ka raportuar edhe nga Gjirokastra me rastin e "revolucionit t? vonuar demokratik", ka udh?hequr Fondin <>, primat q? ia pat besuar Shtabi i P?rgjithsh?m i U?K-s? dhe s'ka dyshim sot ka rol me r?ndsi n? jet?n politike t? "progresit" komunist n? Kosov?. > > T? kthehemi tek gazeta "Koha ditore", pse ?sht? dashur t? sqarohen lexuesit p?r pengesat e rrym?s elektrike dhe t? Internetit, kur gazeta e ka t? mjaftueshme mozaikun me faqe t? t?ra, (m? sakt gjysma e gazet?s, ?sht? mbushur me p?rditshm?ria kosovare), as mozaiku nd?rkomb?tar nuk mungon, nuk mungojn? as temat analitike, as komenti i sllavistit Hans Jakim Lanksh, nuk kan? munguar as reklamat as shkrimet p?r sport, po ?far? paska munguar?! At?her? me t? drejt shtrohet pyetja: Pse ?sht? dashur sqarim n? fjal?? Vall? a mos ka qen? justifikim mbi krimin e b?r?. N? t? v?rtet? pse ?sht? dshur ai sqarim kur gazeta distribuohet n? rrjetin e shitjes tek t? nes?rmen n? mengjes, dhe ?far? i duhet lexuesit t? dij? p?r k?to pengesa kur gazet?s nuk i ka munguar asgj?? Pra gazeta <> e ka dh?n? lajmin e para dhe n? m?nyr? t? plot? se si ?sht? b?r? atentati mbi Enver Malokun dhe ?sht? t?rhequr nga ky trajtim tamam sikurse mjeku Vidi? i cili humbi panam e nishan n? rastin e vrasjes s? Jusuf G?rvall?s. > > Po ashtu dyshimet i shton vet sqarimi i redaksis? ku gazeta "Koha ditore", vet?m pas atentatit e paska b?r? thyerjen (totale), t? pamjes s? gazet?s. Po si ka ndodhur kjo kur rryma ka munguar vazhdimisht at? dit? dhe si ka pasur mund?si t? b?het gjith? kjo pun? mbrenda nj? kohe kaq t? shkurt?r. Kjo duhet t? sqarohet nga drejtuesit e gazet?s?! Pastaj edhe shtypshkronja (n? Gjermani, ah n? Gjermani), ?sht? dashur me i pritur, deri sa kan? shkuar n? vendin e ngjarjes, deri sa e kan? kryer ekspertiz?n, deri sa i kan? anketuar d?shmitar dhe policin? serbe, pastaj personelin e spitalit, v?zhguesit e huaj dhe ?sht? dashur t? kthehen n? redaksi ta b?jn? komentin dhe ta thyejn gazet?n, gj? q? edhe p?r njoh?sit m? t? mir? t? gazet?s kjo ??shtje tashm? b?het m? e komplikuar. Por p?r ?udi <> ?sht? gjindur n? vendin e ngjarjes vet?m 15 minuta pas atentatit, vet?m ata e dijn? se vras?sit paskan "qeshur me nj? vajz?" dhe e dijn? n? cil?n gjuh? kan? folur ajo?! Do t? jet? fatkeqsi n?se v?rtetohet se vajza ka qen nj?ra nga raportueset e <> e cila me koh? kishte dalur n? vendin e ngjarjes. K?to dhe mjaft? alibi n? vazhdim b?jn? t? mjaftueshme q? t? ngritet procedur hetuesie kund?r gazet?s "Koha ditore" p?rkatsisht kund?r Veton Surroit e Baton Haxhiut. N?se at?her? nuk ?sht? b?r?, s? paku tashti kur Kosova ?sht? ?liruar ka mund?si. Tashm? nuk u b? ajo "Pavar?sia" p?r t? cil?n qe angazhuar vazhdimisht stafi i k?saj gazete, pra Kosova i shp?toi atij lakut t? integralizmit jugosllav, dhe tashti ka mund?si t? zgjidhet kjo alibi dhe mjaft? alibi t? tjera. > > Gjithmon vras?sit p?rpiqen t? mbulojn? gjurm?t me deklerata dhe telegrame, bile ata t? par?t jan? q? shkruajn?. K?shtu ka ndodhur edhe me rastin e Enver Malokut ku <> e dat?s 13 janar '99 sjell shkrimin e Arbana Islamit e cila edhe n? k?t? rast nuk mundet me kap?rcyer pa e ?pluar tamam lakuriq, at? verbin ironizues q? e ka n?p?r t? gjitha shkrimet e saja. Pra koncepti redakltues i k?saj gazete i ka b?r? vrastare edhe grat??! Ka harruar zonja apo zonjusha A.Islami se E.Maloku ka l?n? pas vet?s n? m?shir?n e koh?s dhe n? podrumet e nj? pallati n? "Bregu u Diellit II", gruan dhe tre kalamaj. N?se Arbana ?sht? e martuar dhe ka f?mij? le t'i qon mend?t tashti tek f?mij?t e vet, n?se jo i uroj martes? t? shpejt? dhe plleshm?ri t? sigurt. Pastaj pas ca vitesh le ta kujton shkrimin p?r Enver Malokun dhe podrumin ku rrojn? f?mijet e Shefit t? QIK-ut E.Maloku. Dyshimet i shton edhe deklerata e Veton Surroit p?r rastin n? fjal?, pastaj ai ka vrapuar p?r t? d?rguar edhe telegram ngushllimi q? ia ka emituar n? internet "Informatori ditor 2299-B" i dat?s 13.1.1999 q? e distribuon Qendra p?r Informim e Kosov?s. > > > "Koha": Vuri n? sh?njest?r gjenocidin serb mbi Kosov?n > Prishtin?, 13 janar (QIK) - QIK-u ka humbur kolegun dhe mikun profesional, kurse familja e ka humbur njeriun e p?rkushtimit komb?tar deri n? momentin e fundit n? koh?n m? t? r?nd? p?r Kosov?n, gazetarin? dhe p?r mbijetes?n shqiptare. N? koh?n kur Enveri b?ri p?rpjekjen p?r t? bashkuar subjektin shqiptar - me guximin e tij shpalosi shum? elemente p?r?ar?se nd?r shqiptar? - vuri n? sh?njest?r gjenocidin serb mbi Kosov?n dhe ishte nd?r t? par?t q? u k?rc?nua se nuk do t'i ndalim mediumet tona duke th?n?: "Po qe nevoja, do t'i botojm? ato edhe n? male". Si duket, Enverin e vrau guximi profesional dhe intenca p?r t'i bashkuar shqiptar?t. K?t? dikush nuk e deshi, thuhet n? ngush?llimet e Redaksis? dhe kolektivit t? gazet?s "Koha". (Marr? nga: QIK-Informatori ditor nr.2299-B/13.1.1999). > > > M?13 janar '99 ?sht? mbajtur dit? zie, gazetat <> dhe < q? botoheshin n? Per?ndim e pat?n sh?nuar me shiritin e zi, po ?uditrisht k?t? gj? nuk e b?ri gazeta <> e cila nuk mbajti zi dhe as nuk jua sqaroi lexuesve t? saj pse veproi k?shtu, ishte faji tek rryma, interneti apo diku tjet?r... si duket kjo gazet? qe g?zuar kur ?sht? likujduar p?rsoni num?r nj? n? fush?n e informimit, apo si? e cil?son n? telegramin e tij edhe vet Veton Surroi "Enverin q? b?ri p?rpjekje p?r t? bashkuar subjektin shqiptar..., Enverin q? vuri n? sh?njest?r gjenocidin serb mbi Kosov?n dhe ishte nd?r t? par?t q? u k?rc?nua se nuk do t'i ndalim mediumet tona". > > Tashm? dihet se Enver Maloku ishte i pari q? ka protestuar kund?r k?rcenimit serb n? mbrojtje t? gazetave pra edhe t? "Koh?s ditore", kurse Serbia qe k?rc?nuar se do t'i mbyllte gazetat shqipe si <>, <>, <>, por ?udit?risht ajo e pat mbyllur vet?m gazet?n "Bujku" por jo edhe "Koh?n ditore" si? iu pat dh?n? pompzitet n? at? koh? edhe nga TVSH-ja. K?t? luft? speciale t? Serbis? e kam trajtuar n? shkrimin: <>?!, botuar n? <> Zvic?r t? dat?s 12 n?ntor 1998, intenc? e ngritur pik?risht nga <>. Pastaj para se t? b?hej atentati mbi Enver Malokun, <> i pat dh?n? pompozitet k?tij k?rcenimi dhe kush ka pasur mend e ka ditur se kjo do t? plasi diku tjet?r dhe me t? v?rtet plasi. K?t? analogji e shpjegon edhe nj? luft? speciale q? lidhet me nj? ngjarje m? t? hershme politike q? pat ndodhur n? Kosov?, prandaj qytetar?t e Kosov?s le ta ?ojn? mendjen n? koh?n e "Amandamenteve Kushtetuese" ku ka qen e orientuar v?mendja e popullit ton?. Tek amandamentet vrastare ap tek ylli komunist n? Flamurin shqiptar, yll t? cilin as vet serbet, sot nuk e durojn? n? flamurin e tyre. > > Po Enver Maloku si intelektual dhe personalitet (q? fatkeqsisht vet?m pas vdekj?s ia pranojm? vlerat) e kreu misionin e tij, "at? e vrau guximi intelektual" ka th?n? Surroi, po Baton Haxhiu a e ka harruar "Press Konferenc?n" p?r k?t? ??shtje q? ia aranzhmoi Enver Maloku, a e vret nd?rgjegja sot Botonin dhe a do t? ka guxim intelektual ta p?rmend emrin e tij. Po m? mir? t'i kthehem Veton Surroit p?r ta pyetur me ?far? morali qytetar ia p?rmend ai emrin Enver Malokut kur ?sht? p?rsoni num?r nj? q? ka g?rryer vazhdimisht n? dinjitetin moral e njer?zor t? Enver Malokut, ?sht? njeriu q? pa asnj? dinjitet ia ka n?n?muar "guximin" dhe pun?n profesionale, ?sht? personi q? ka ushtruar piratizmin m? primitiv mbi informatat e sajuara nga QIK-u, (lexo Enver Maloku), dhe gjith?her? ia ka mohuar Institucionin. > > Gazeta "Koha ditore", p?rkatsisht Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu le t? k?thehen dhe t'i shfletojn? revistat <>, mars/prill 1997, p?rkat?sisht nr.147-149/1997, dhe shum? shkrime e denigrime t? tjera q? nuk po i p?rmendi k?saj radhe p?r t'i bindur se m? shum? se Serbin?, puna dhe guximi i Enver Malokut i ka penguar k?ta. Po jua rikujtoj vet?m nj? konstatim t? z.Maloku q? e pat botuar n? <> ku shkruante: "Autori i shkrimit, duket qart? se b?n pjes? n? grupin e politikan?ve t? vet?quajtur atdhetar?, t? cil?t ..., jan? p?rpjekur q? ta imponojn? "Koh?n ditore" si gazet? ideale shqiptare, edhe pse kjo gazet? ?sht? e regjistruar n? Serbi (jo n? Beograd). Anonimi i "Koh?s ditore" do t? ket? mund?si t? ket? edhe m? shum? kontakte me "Koh?n" posa kjo t? fitoj? frekuencat e radios dhe t? televizionit n? Serbi." (Marr? nga QIK-u i dat?s s? p?rmendur m? lart?). Pik?risht n? dit?t q? u likuidua Enver Maloku, gazeta e Veton Surroi botonte sihariqin se nisi emitimi i par? i radiostacionit <> me frekuenca e tij t? regjistruara n? ... dhe dihet se S?rbia ka okupuar Radio Televizionin e Prishtin?s, ka mbyllur gazet?n <> p?r ta ngulfatur informimin shqip, dhe tashti shtrohet pyetja: Si n?nkuptohen gjith? ato p?rparsi q? ia pat dh?n? Veton Surroit pik?risht n? koh?n kur U?K-ja p?rballej me Luft?n m? barbare n? malet e Kosov?s. > > Nxitimi p?r ta vrar Enver Malokun si duket qe lidhur edhe me nj? ngjarje tjet?r, pra me viziten e Liderit t? s? majtes shqiptare nga Kosova akademik Rexhep Qosja n? Shqip?ri, ku mbahet mend deklerata skandaloze n? TVSH, n? t? cil?n ai "jua njeh t? drejt?n serb?ve t? Kosov?s p?r vetvendosje" q? n?nkuptohet t? drejt?n p?r cop?zimin e Kosov?s, dukuri me t? cil?n po p?rballet Mitrovica e sotme. > > A nuk ?sht? koha p?r t'i p?rmbledhur t? gjitha shkrimet e botuara tek revista "Koha" dhe tek gazeta "Koha ditore" t? cilat ju kan? prir? atentateve mbi Enver Malokun e dr.Sabri Hamitin si dhe kund?r nj? elite intelektuale q? vepronin n?n? strehen e LDK-s? dhe t? Qeveris? s? Par? t? Republik?s s? Kosov?s, dhe k?to shkrime t? p?rkthehen n? gjuh?n e KFOR-it, UNMIK-ut si dhe t'i d?rgohen atij asociacionit q? e ushqen me Fonde t? majme Veton Surroin dhe atij tjetrit q? e ka nderuar me ?mim Baton Haxhiun p?r t? par? se ?far? kan? b?r? n? "demokratizimin e v?rtet?" t? Kosov?s. Do t? ishte me interes n? demokratizimin e Kosov?s sikur k?to materiale t? deponohen edhe n? Tribunalin e Hag?s dhe t? hap?t procedur? e rregullt kund?r krimeve gjat? Luft?s n? 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U.L. >From: Etrit Bardhi >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: [Prishtina-l] Anetaret nga Prishtina >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:43:15 -0500 (EST) > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >Tung, > >sot u regjistrua edhe personi i 100-te ne kete liste (e cila ekziston nga >16 Tetori i vitit te kaluar), por nuk e di se sa nga keta lajmerohen nga >Prishtina... > >Do te ishte mire sikur abonuesit nga Prishtina te na dergonin lajme, >thashethema, cka eshte "in" e cka eshte "out", cili "kafiq" eshte me i >popullarizuar e keshtu me rradhe, qe edhe ne qe jemi large fizikisht te >ndihemi me afer me vendlindjen tone... > >Te fala kush vesin, > >Etriti. > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From shdibrani at paus.ch Tue Jan 11 00:31:10 2000 From: shdibrani at paus.ch (Shefqet Dibrani) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 06:31:10 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=EBr_Dardan_Blakun_dhe_ata_q=EB_jan=EB_shqetsuar?= Message-ID: <00b501bf5bf5$2bc66280$713cd1c2@shdibrani> T? nderuar an?tar? t? listes, ju k?rkoj falje p?r tri gabime t? l?shuara ngase jan? bartur dy komente dhe nj? shkrim gazetaresk n? k?t? faqe e cila ?sht? e destinuar p?r debate t? nj? natyre tjet?r. E gjith? kjo ka ardhur nga nj? gabim i l?shuar n? sistemimin n? librin e adresave. Tani e kam korigjuar dhe shpresoj se nuk do t? p?rseriten. Kjo vlen edhe p?r nj?far? Dardan Blaku i cili ka hapur adresa elektronike p?r debate t? k?saj natyre gj? q? nuk jam i interesuar. Edhe nj? her? ju k?rkoj falje t? gjith? atyre q? i kambesdisur. Sh?ndet dhe qetsi t? gjith?ve! Shefqet Dibrani -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From dardan at alb-net.com Tue Jan 11 00:41:08 2000 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:41:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=EBr_Dardan_Blakun_dhe_ata_q=EB_jan=EB_shqetsuar?= In-Reply-To: <00b501bf5bf5$2bc66280$713cd1c2@shdibrani> Message-ID: Si sqarim, desha te them se nuk ekziston kurrfare liste per diskutime te tilla, por ja po e perseris se cka shkrova me heret: "Nese jeni te interesuar, mund ta hapim listen" e jo sic e parafrazoi z. Dibrani: "per njefar Dardan Blaku i cili ka hapur adresa elektronike per".... Te fala, "Njefare Dardan Blaku" On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Shefqet Dibrani wrote: > T? nderuar an?tar? t? listes, > ju k?rkoj falje p?r tri gabime t? l?shuara ngase jan? bartur dy komente dhe nj? shkrim gazetaresk n? k?t? faqe e cila ?sht? e destinuar p?r debate t? nj? natyre tjet?r. E gjith? kjo ka ardhur nga nj? gabim i l?shuar n? sistemimin n? librin e adresave. Tani e kam korigjuar dhe shpresoj se nuk do t? p?rseriten. > Kjo vlen edhe p?r nj?far? Dardan Blaku i cili ka hapur adresa elektronike p?r debate t? k?saj natyre gj? q? nuk jam i interesuar. > Edhe nj? her? ju k?rkoj falje t? gjith? atyre q? i kambesdisur. > Sh?ndet dhe qetsi t? gjith?ve! > Shefqet Dibrani > From arapi55 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 06:07:04 2000 From: arapi55 at yahoo.com (Arben ARAPI) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:07:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Anetaret nga Prishtina Message-ID: <20000111110704.12797.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Po e shoh qe po keni deshire te keni me shum anetar nga Prishtina. A ka kushte paraprake per me u regjistru ne kete list? Ne qofse po, ateher tregomni cilat jan ato. Poashtu tregomni se si mund te regjistrohet ndokush ne kete list(procesi i regjistrimit). Ne qoftse deshironi ta rritni numrin e antarve ne kete list, une jam ai qe mund te ju ndihmoi. Une e kam nje Internet Cafe ne Prishtine dhe jam i sigurt qe numri i antarve ne kete list do te rritet dita dites. Eshte fjala per Prishtinali, gjegjesisht banoret e Prishtines. Arben Arapi Click!cafe Prishtine --- Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Tung, > > sot u regjistrua edhe personi i 100-te ne kete liste > (e cila ekziston nga > 16 Tetori i vitit te kaluar), por nuk e di se sa nga > keta lajmerohen nga > Prishtina... > > Do te ishte mire sikur abonuesit nga Prishtina te na > dergonin lajme, > thashethema, cka eshte "in" e cka eshte "out", cili > "kafiq" eshte me i > popullarizuar e keshtu me rradhe, qe edhe ne qe jemi > large fizikisht te > ndihemi me afer me vendlindjen tone... > > Te fala kush vesin, > > Etriti. > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: > Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From shdibrani at paus.ch Tue Jan 11 06:23:22 2000 From: shdibrani at paus.ch (Shefqet Dibrani) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:23:22 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BPrishtina-l=5D_P=EBr_Dardan_Blakun_dhe_ata_q=EB_jan?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=EB_shqetsuar?= Message-ID: <002301bf5c26$459d1ba0$813cd1c2@shdibrani> Zoti Dardan nuk jam i interesuar t? polimizoj. Ju falenderoj p?r t? gjitha. N?se ka nevoj? Ju k?rkoj falje edhe nj? her? t? gjitha ato prezentime kan? qen gabim n? sistemimin e list?s time t? adresave. Edhe nj? her? Ju k?rkoj falje t? gjitha kan? qen pa q?llim Sh.Dibrani M? posht? teksti juaj: Ju kisha lutur qe te mos distribuoni akuza, thashetheme, e hetime te stilit te Sherlok Holmsit ne kete Liste. Nese jeni te interesuar, mund ta hapim listen hetimet-vazhdojne at alb-net.com, ose HagaJuPret at alb-net.com Dardan Blaku alb-net.com co-administrator > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Dardan Blaku An: shdibrani at paus.ch Cc: prishtina-l at alb-net.com Datum: Dienstag, 11. Januar 2000 06:45 Betreff: Re: [Prishtina-l] P?r Dardan Blakun dhe ata q? jan? shqetsuar > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >Si sqarim, desha te them se nuk ekziston kurrfare liste per diskutime te >tilla, por ja po e perseris se cka shkrova me heret: > >"Nese jeni te interesuar, mund ta hapim listen" > >e jo sic e parafrazoi z. Dibrani: > >"per njefar Dardan Blaku i cili ka hapur adresa elektronike per".... > >Te fala, >"Njefare Dardan Blaku" > > > >On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Shefqet Dibrani wrote: > >> T? nderuar an?tar? t? listes, >> ju k?rkoj falje p?r tri gabime t? l?shuara ngase jan? bartur dy komente dhe nj? shkrim gazetaresk n? k?t? faqe e cila ?sht? e destinuar p?r debate t? nj? natyre tjet?r. E gjith? kjo ka ardhur nga nj? gabim i l?shuar n? sistemimin n? librin e adresave. Tani e kam korigjuar dhe shpresoj se nuk do t? p?rseriten. >> Kjo vlen edhe p?r nj?far? Dardan Blaku i cili ka hapur adresa elektronike p?r debate t? k?saj natyre gj? q? nuk jam i interesuar. >> Edhe nj? her? ju k?rkoj falje t? gjith? atyre q? i kambesdisur. >> Sh?ndet dhe qetsi t? gjith?ve! >> Shefqet Dibrani >> > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From ssander at ans.net Tue Jan 11 09:25:31 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:25:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 14 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tungat Etrit, qekjo Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova eshte dhe vazhdon te jete nje burim fenomenal i informatave kulturo-shoqerore. Shume po me pelqen. Urime Bajrami! - Sander Sinishtaj On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:46:20 +0100 > From: Nol Shala > > - Me 8. Janar 2000 n? mbar? Kosov?n u p?rcjell festa Fit?r-Bajrami me > aktivitete t? shumta kulturore-artistike. Posa?arisht vlen t? p?rmendet > manifestimi qendror i organizuar nga Bashk?sia Islame e Kosov?s i cili u > mbajt n? pallatin e rinis? n? Prishtin?, n? t? cil?n qen? t? pranish?m nj? > num?r i madh i besimtar?ve. Me k?t? rast kryetari i kryesis? s? bashk?sis? > Islame t? Kosov?s Prof. Dr. Rexhep Boja theksoj se vendosja e rendit, > qet?sis? dhe paqes n? Kosov?, nuk ?sht? obligim vet?m i forcave t? KFOR-it, > policis? nd?rkomb?tare t? UNMIK-ut ose e TMK-s?, por ai ?sht? obligim i ?do > qytetari t? Kosov?s. N? Kosov?n e lir? m? nuk duhet t? ket? vend p?r > hakmarrje, djegie e vrasje t? njer?zve t? pafajsh?m vet?m pse ata i p?rkasin > nj? feje ose kombi tjet?r ose flasin nj? gjuh? tjet?r. Faj?sis? kolektive n? > Kosov? duhet th?n? stop nj?her? e p?rgjithmon?. Gjat? dit?s duke filluar nga > ora 12:00 para teatrit komb?tar t? Kosov?s u organizua programi > kulturor-zbavit?s n? t? cil?n mor?n pjes? teatri i kukullave "Dodona", > ansambli i f?mij?ve "Xixillonjat", ansambli "Shota" etj. Bashk?sia Islame e > Kosov?s dhe organizatat humanitare islame me k?t? rast iu ndan f?mij?ve t? > pranish?m dhurata t? ndryshme. > > - Jav?n e kaluar n? lokalet e sht?pis? s? kultur?s n? Prizren ?sht? b?r? > promovimi i librit "Rapsodi Kosovar?" i shkrimtarit t? njohur Sulejman > Krasniqi. Autori k?t? vep?r e botoi p?r her? t? par? n? Kosov?, pas dyzet > vite ndjekje n? egzil nga organet policore t? ish-Jugosllavis?. Promovimin e > k?tij libri e b?ri klubi letrar "F.S. Noli" nga Prizreni, kupari mor?n pjes? > krijuesit letrar nga Prizreni, Prishtina dhe Shqip?ria. > > - K?tyre dit?ve doli nga shtypi numri i tret? i revist?s p?r femra "Sfinga". > N? k?t? num?r prej mbi 200 faq?sh jan? p?rfshir? shkrime nga kultura, moda, > arti, literatur? t? autor?ve vendas dhe t? huaj. Ky num?r p?rmban gjithashtu > piktura t? artist?ve bashk?kohor kosovar?. N? k?t? num?r shkruan p?r > revist?n Nerimane Kamberi, Suzana ?apriqi, Anton Nik? Berisha, Kujtim > Ramadani dhe t? autor t? huaj. > > - N? Prishtin? me 5. Janar 2000 n? teatrin "Dodona" u shfaq komedia > "Stjuardesa" e autorit Marc Cameleot n? regjin? e Faruk Begollit. Rrolet i > luajt?n Mentor Zymberaj, Ilire Vinca, Xhejlane Godanci, Armend Morina, Emine > Toska dhe t? tjer?t. > > - Gjat? jav?s s? kaluar n? Kafe-Galerin? "A" n? Prishtin? ?sht? hapur > ekspozita individuale e piktorit Aziz Nimani. Mbi 40 piktura t? realizuara > n? teknik?n e vajit dhe pastelit jan? rezultat e nj? pun?s kontuitive t? > piktorit t? cilin kritika fran?eze e ka cil?suar si piktor t? drit?s. > > - N? teatrin komb?tar t? Kosov?s kan? filluar provat p?r vodvilin "Martesa e > Barionit" t? komediografit fran?ez George Fenido. Regjin? e k?saj komedie do > t? b?j? regjisori Atdhe Gashi. N? rrolet kryesore do t? paraqiten Blerim > Gjaci, Afrim Kasapolli, Hysnie Mu?aj, Ali Ahmeti, Xhejlane Godanci, Anisa > Ismaili dhe t? tjer?t. Me k?t? shfaqje fillon pun?n teatri komb?tar n? > mileniumin e ri. Regjisori Atdhe Gashi theksoj se: "Bota e personazheve t? > Fenidos e prezentuar n? k?t? vodvil ng?rthen n? vetvete nj? shkall? t? lart? > t? nd?rlikuar, prandaj realizimi skenik i tyre ?sht? mjaft i r?nd?sish?m p?r > mua". Premiera e k?saj shfaqje do t? jipet rreth dat?s 10. Shkurt 2000 n? > Prishtin?. > > - N? Prizren k?tyre dit?ve ?sht? hapur ekspozita e piktor?ve prizrenas > "Mesazh fundshekulli" n? kuad?r t? manifestimeve jubilare t? rinis?. Me k?t? > rast u prezentuan veprat e piktor?ve Zeq? To?i, Bashkim Du?i, Agim Kryeziu, > Hamdi Bardhi, Sami Ahmetaj, Valbona Dukagjini, Masar Drini dhe i ndjeri > Tasim Shehu. Veprat artistike paraqesin motive nga p?rjetimet e popullit t? > Kosov?s gjat? vitit t? kaluar. Ekspozita ?sht? e hapur n? lokalet e sht?pis? > s? kultur?s "Xhemail Berisha" me moton "T? kontribojm? p?r nj? jet? m? t? > mir?, p?r pa?e dhe demokraci". > > P?r gazet?n e Kulturserver Kosova raporton Beq? 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Tanve ju bon selam, Valoni ---------------------- Valon Mustafa valon.mustafa at kcl.ac.uk _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l From etrit at alb-net.com Tue Jan 11 18:14:27 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:14:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Anetaret nga Prishtina In-Reply-To: <20000111110704.12797.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Arben ARAPI wrote: > Po e shoh qe po keni deshire te keni me shum anetar > nga Prishtina. A ka kushte paraprake per me u > regjistru ne kete list? Ne qofse po, ateher tregomni > cilat jan ato. Poashtu tregomni se si mund te Nuk ka kurrfare kushte per t'u abonuar ne liste, perveq se tema duhet te jete e lidhur ne nje menyre me Prishtinen... > regjistrohet ndokush ne kete list(procesi i > regjistrimit). Per t'u regjistruar vetem duhet me vizitu kete faqe: http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l aty mund te lexohen edhe arkivat... > Ne qoftse deshironi ta rritni numrin e antarve ne kete > list, une jam ai qe mund te ju ndihmoi. Une e kam nje > Internet Cafe ne Prishtine dhe jam i sigurt qe numri i > antarve ne kete list do te rritet dita dites. Eshte > fjala per Prishtinali, gjegjesisht banoret e > Prishtines. shume mire atehere, uroj nje bashkepunim te metutjeshem Arben... ;-) Etriti. Nju Jork. > > Arben Arapi > Click!cafe > Prishtine From etrit at alb-net.com Tue Jan 11 22:39:43 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:39:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Aeroporti u hap Message-ID: Sipas AP-se aeroporti ne Prishtine (aeroporti "Wesley Clark") u hap per qarkullim civil sot. Te shpresojme se nuk do te kete me aksidente... Etriti. From etrit at alb-net.com Tue Jan 11 22:45:13 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:45:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosova B ne flake Message-ID: Kosova pa rryme pasi qe termocentrali Kosva B ne Obiliq ishte ne flake mreme... Vetem edhe kjo na ka vyte... Ja lajmi: http://sg.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=singapore/headlines/000112/world/afp/Kosovo_powerless_after_power_station_blaze.html From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Wed Jan 12 08:37:48 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:37:48 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Arben Arapi.... Message-ID: <20000112133748.48785.qmail@hotmail.com> Po ku je he bac...... Allahile a je far burri a ke far turri... A po te nxen oborri ....hiq.... Bullicat twist a po te lujn.... Ani...pa e lexu pergjegjen...."Nese ju duhet tju antarsojme prishtinali ne listen e juaj...une jam njeriu adekuat per tju ndihmuar Allahile....a po lun Bilar.....Alushi a eshte permisu ne Bilar...se kohve te fundit Kontrafelshi Difleksional...nuk i shkojke... Gjithmone e kallke lojen.... Arap....Tung o njeri se shkova... Ardi..... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Wed Jan 12 11:31:48 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:31:48 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Sander... Message-ID: <20000112163149.88771.qmail@hotmail.com> Kush eshte ertrit bardhi....???? pash baben ndreqmi punet me te...se po me nevojitet nje diler i artikujve ushqimore.... Ardi..... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 12 13:21:51 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:21:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Sander... In-Reply-To: <20000112163149.88771.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Ardian Vukpalaj wrote: > Kush eshte ertrit bardhi....???? > pash baben ndreqmi punet me te...se po me nevojitet nje diler i artikujve > ushqimore.... cfare artikuj po te vyne ashtu? btw, emrin e kam etrit e jo ertrit... > Ardi..... From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Wed Jan 12 13:32:44 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:32:44 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kolege.... Message-ID: <20000112183244.12968.qmail@hotmail.com> Kolege...nese ka mundesi...e se di a ju ka mete ...po me vyn do tul...se Sandrit i kan ra dhembet e spo mundet me hanger Kore....te bukes....Ardi... Thirr Sander...ne Telefon...e shiloma njehere..???? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ssander at ans.net Wed Jan 12 13:39:10 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:39:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kolege.... In-Reply-To: <20000112183244.12968.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: heheheh....Ardi spaska mete ma mish te Shema eh?? - Sander On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Ardian Vukpalaj wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Kolege...nese ka mundesi...e se di a ju ka mete ...po me vyn do tul...se > Sandrit i kan ra dhembet e spo mundet me hanger Kore....te bukes....Ardi... > Thirr Sander...ne Telefon...e shiloma njehere..???? > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 12 20:40:34 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 20:40:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Leja e Kerrit me e vlefshme se Diploma e Fakultetit Message-ID: Lexoni kete artikull, shikoni ku po shkon Prishtina... Etriti. ---- Te Pasurit E Rinj Te Kosoves Po rritet zemerimi rreth nje mungese te madhe barazie ne paga te krijuar nga organizatat nderkombetare. Ndersa OKB dhe organizatat e tjera japin paga te tejfryra per disa njerez me fat, disa dhjetra mijera punonjes publik presin me kot qe tu paguhen rrogat e tyre te vogla. Nga Imer Mushkolaj ne Prishtine Besnik Zabergja qendron prane banakut te barit "Tricky Dick's" ne Prishtine, duke tymosur nje Marlboro dhe duke pire nje birre te huaj. I veshur sipas modes se fundit dhe duke ndjekur ritmin e muzikes se larte, Besniku eshte bashkuar me disa shoke te ti te rinj per tu qetesuar me nje pije pas pune. Vetem pak me larg Idriz Ajeti diskuton me zjarr me te shoqen per buxhetin e familjes se tyre. Artikulli i plote gjindet ne: http://www.iwpr.net/index.pl5?archive/bcr/bcr_20000107_4_alb.txt From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 12 22:29:01 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 14 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tung Sander, edhe mu me pelqen te lexoje per kulture nganjehere masi jam merzite me politike... ;-) Kjo fletushke pregatitet nga Nol Shala (i cili e mban faqen www.dardania.com) dhe Beqe Cufaj (me duket se punon per Kohen Ditore)... Shpresoj se do te kemi me shume lajme kulturore se sa politikore ne te ardhmen... Etriti. On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > Tungat Etrit, > > qekjo Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova eshte dhe vazhdon te jete nje burim > fenomenal i informatave kulturo-shoqerore. Shume po me pelqen. > > Urime Bajrami! > > - Sander Sinishtaj From juniku at hotmail.com Wed Jan 12 22:50:43 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:50:43 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 14 Message-ID: <20000113035043.6522.qmail@hotmail.com> Sander, shpjegoja Etritit edhe nihere se se ka marre vesh! >From: Etrit Bardhi >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 14 >Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:29:01 -0500 (EST) > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >Tung Sander, edhe mu me pelqen te lexoje per kulture nganjehere masi jam >merzite me politike... ;-) Kjo fletushke pregatitet nga Nol Shala (i cili >e mban faqen www.dardania.com) dhe Beqe Cufaj (me duket se punon per Kohen >Ditore)... > >Shpresoj se do te kemi me shume lajme kulturore se sa politikore ne te >ardhmen... > >Etriti. > >On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > > Tungat Etrit, > > > > qekjo Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova eshte dhe vazhdon te jete nje burim > > fenomenal i informatave kulturo-shoqerore. Shume po me pelqen. > > > > Urime Bajrami! > > > > - Sander Sinishtaj > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From arapi55 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 14 09:47:48 2000 From: arapi55 at yahoo.com (Arben ARAPI) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:47:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Arben Arapi.... Message-ID: <20000114144748.20021.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> --- Ardian Vukpalaj wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l Allahile ku je...heu heu...boll u cudita qi ma ke qu qit leter...nuk se kom prit pej teje :) ku je bre ti? cilen drzav je qitash? po rome u killavem tu lujt...alushi po permirsohet dita dites edhe po mson fellqa t'ri. tash nuk po e kall lojen po as nuk po e fiton :) ti cka je ka bon. a je n'Angli? a ku? care...shkrujem...shihemi...a po nihesh me alushin...hajt se ja marr emailin e ta kallzoi. tung biliardisti Po ku je he bac...... > Allahile a je far burri a ke far turri... > A po te nxen oborri ....hiq.... > Bullicat twist a po te lujn.... > Ani...pa e lexu pergjegjen...."Nese ju duhet tju > antarsojme prishtinali ne > listen e juaj...une jam njeriu adekuat per tju > ndihmuar > Allahile....a po lun Bilar.....Alushi a eshte > permisu ne Bilar...se kohve te > fundit Kontrafelshi Difleksional...nuk i shkojke... > Gjithmone e kallke lojen.... > Arap....Tung o njeri se shkova... > Ardi..... > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: > Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From etrit at alb-net.com Fri Jan 14 12:55:00 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 12:55:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Arben Arapi.... In-Reply-To: <20000114144748.20021.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Arben ARAPI wrote: > Allahile ku je...heu heu...boll u cudita qi ma ke qu > qit leter...nuk se kom prit pej teje :) > > ku je bre ti? cilen drzav je qitash? > Hej Arap, hajt allahile mos na dergo mesazhe private ne liste (ose boni pak me interesante)... edhe nuk lejohet perdorimi i fjales 'drzav' ne kete liste... ;-) hej, pse nuk po hini ne ICQ apo AOL IM ma? a per shkak termocentralit Kosova B a? A mundet dikush ne liste qe eshte i lidhun prej Prishtines me na tregu per RTK-ne, cfare programi kane dhe sa ore ne dite po jipet... e poashtu edhe per radio-stacionet. ndiva qe Radio Kosova ka fillu me transmetim, i drejtuar nga Agim Fetahu, a e ka ndegju najkush kete stacion ende? cfare kualiteti po kane radio stacionet? Tung, Etriti. From juniku at hotmail.com Fri Jan 14 16:47:59 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:47:59 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Arben Arapi.... dhe etrit zotnia Message-ID: <20000114214759.58011.qmail@hotmail.com> Etrit si drzava si allahile s' lejohen n kete liste! A c po ja fut edhe ti si kau peles nganjehere! Nejse dhashte Zoti ( a po sheh s spo e shkruj ishallah se idhnohet sandri) e s hin n plemike me mu si Kosovapressi e qarqet e djathta per kete shprehje popullore shqiptare! Hajde mos reago a! :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ssander at ans.net Fri Jan 14 16:59:03 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Arben Arapi.... dhe etrit zotnia In-Reply-To: <20000114214759.58011.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Hehehe Uke, shprehjet popullore jane per popull dhe te tilla, besoj qe i pranon populli. pershendetje! - Sandri On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Uk Lushi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Etrit si drzava si allahile s' lejohen n kete liste! > A c po ja fut edhe ti si kau peles nganjehere! > > Nejse dhashte Zoti ( a po sheh s spo e shkruj ishallah se idhnohet sandri) e > s hin n plemike me mu si Kosovapressi e qarqet e djathta per kete shprehje > popullore shqiptare! > > Hajde mos reago a! > > :) > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From shdibrani at paus.ch Fri Jan 14 18:48:51 2000 From: shdibrani at paus.ch (Shefqet Dibrani) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 00:48:51 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Me_=E7regjistroni_nga_lista?= Message-ID: <00de01bf5eea$00582c80$663cd1c2@shdibrani> I nderuari moderator-administrator i kesaj liste ju lutem me shlyeni nga lista e dergimeve t? mesazheve te cilat po me pengojne ne punen time rutinore. Duke ju deshiruar suksese k?rkoj mirekuptim: Sh.Dibrani -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From dkryeziu at vnet.net Sat Jan 15 02:17:40 2000 From: dkryeziu at vnet.net (drin kryeziu) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 02:17:40 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] emri i aeroportit Message-ID: <38801F14.17F5EA8C@vnet.net> Aeroporti fatmir?sisht nuk e ka at em?r "Sllatina" po e ka vet?m Aeroporti i Prishtin?. Sa p?r emrin Wesley Clark, nuk ?sht? ndonj? ide e keqe. D. K. P.S. Wesley Clark-ut i d?shiroj jet? t? gjat?. From dardan at alb-net.com Sat Jan 15 13:27:55 2000 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:27:55 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] News: Serb Warlord Wounded in Belgrade Hotel-Eyewitness Message-ID: Serb Warlord Wounded in Belgrade Hotel-Eyewitness Filed at 12:41 p.m. ET By Reuters BELGRADE (Reuters) - Serb warlord Zeljko Raznatovic, known as Arkan, who is wanted by an international tribunal for alleged war crimes, was wounded on Saturday in a shooting at Belgrade's Intercontinental hotel, an eyewitness said. ``Arkan was wounded in the left eye and was taken to a hospital. He was alive. One man was shot dead, another man and a woman were wounded,'' the eyewitness said. Several police vehicles came to the scene and five policemen were standing in front of the hotel main entrance preventing reporters from going in. Arkan's four-wheel-drive Chevrolet was parked outside. Arkan was indicted in 1997 by the U.N. war crimes court in the Hague for crimes against humanity, including alleged atrocities in Croatia in 1991 and in Bosnia during the 1992-95 war. The 47-year-old Arkan led a paramilitary unit called ''Tigers'' who took part in both the Croatian and Bosnian wars. He is also wanted by the international police body Interpol in connection with a series of bank robberies across western Europe. In 1992, Raznatovic was a deputy in the Serbian parliament. He later left politics and bought the Belgrade Obilic soccer club. __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From mentor.latifi at stud.unibas.ch Sat Jan 15 14:15:52 2000 From: mentor.latifi at stud.unibas.ch (Mentor Latifi) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:15:52 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Serbian warlord shot dead References: Message-ID: <3880C768.656F3966@stud.unibas.ch> The Serbian paramilitary leader Zeljko Raznatovic, better known as Arkan, has been shot and killed at Belgrade's Intercontinental hotel, according to hospital sources. He was reportedly shot in the eye and rushed to hospital. One of his bodyguards, Momcilo Mandic, is also believed to have died in the shooting. Reports say that the gunmen escaped. Last year, the UN's international criminal tribunal for former Yugoslavia indicted Arkan for war crimes committed during the Bosnian war. The indictment, issued in 1997, was kept under wraps until the Nato air campaign against Yugoslavia began in March. Underworld Arkan led the notorious Tigers, which were part of the Serb Volunteer Force operating in Bosnia and Croatia. The Tigers are alleged to have committed atrocities in Kosovo last year, but Arkan has denied this. Reputedly one of Serbia's richest men, Arkan is wanted for bank robberies in western Europe in the 1970s and 1980s. He also is believed to have amassed wealth from war profiteering. The BBC correspondent in Belgrade, Jacky Rowland, says assassination is a common tool for settling disputes in the Serbian underworld, in which Arkan was a powerful figure. From dkryeziu at vnet.net Sat Jan 15 17:12:45 2000 From: dkryeziu at vnet.net (drin kryeziu) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:12:45 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Serbian warlord shot dead References: <3880C768.656F3966@stud.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <3880F0DD.E2CB51F0@vnet.net> Mentor Latifi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > The Serbian paramilitary leader Zeljko > Raznatovic, better known as Arkan, has > been shot and killed at Belgrade's > Intercontinental hotel, according to > hospital sources. > > He was reportedly shot in the eye and > rushed to hospital. > > One of his bodyguards, Momcilo Mandic, > is also believed to have died in the > shooting. > > Reports say that the gunmen escaped. > > Last year, the UN's international criminal > tribunal for former Yugoslavia indicted > Arkan for war crimes committed during > the Bosnian war. > > The indictment, issued in 1997, was kept > under wraps until the Nato air campaign > against Yugoslavia began in March. > > Underworld > > Arkan led the notorious Tigers, which > were part of the Serb Volunteer Force > operating in Bosnia and Croatia. > > The Tigers are alleged to have committed > atrocities in Kosovo last year, but Arkan > has denied this. > > Reputedly one of Serbia's richest men, > Arkan is wanted for bank robberies in > western Europe in the 1970s and 1980s. > He also is believed to have amassed > wealth from war profiteering. > > The BBC correspondent in Belgrade, Jacky > Rowland, says assassination is a common > tool for settling disputes in the Serbian > underworld, in which Arkan was a > powerful figure. > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l A ?sht? ky lajm i v?rtet?. Mos t' g?zohemi palidhje From etrit at alb-net.com Sat Jan 15 18:08:01 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:08:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Rryma Message-ID: Qysh po munden njerzit me ndejte pa rryme? A u ndreq termocentrali Kosova A? Po aeroporti a po punon? Sipas ketij artikulli Prishtina i paska bo 600,000 banore... Tung. Power Crisis Worsening in Kosovo By The Associated Press PRISTINA, Yugoslavia -- First came the war, then the winter -- leaving the province of Kosovo cold and dark with little electricity. In the snow-covered capital, Pristina, the standard greeting is: ``Do you have power?'' and U.N. officials advise residents to huddle together for warmth. The majority of Pristina's 600,000 or so residents have been receiving electricity for less than six hours a day. Some have gone without for 48 hours in a stretch. It's a problem that has disrupted regular life in Kosovo, caused much discomfort and posed danger in homes and hospitals alike. Because water is pumped by electricity, the outages have caused pipes to run dry, which in turn has caused shutdowns in the central heating system. All but emergency surgery has been canceled at the hospital. Without heat, city schools have been forced to close in the afternoons. Only businesses and restaurants that have generators can keep regular hours. Ljuljeta Shala, 36, a dentist in Pristina, has closed her practice for lack of power. On Saturday, she packed up her belongings her 14-month-old son, Gon, and headed for Skopje to stay with her mother until the situation improves. ``Every morning I get up, I can see my breath,'' said Shala. ``My child is freezing and he sleeps all the time because its too cold to get out of bed.'' Her husband Skendar, 41, is staying. He went to buy a stove for the living room and a generator to put on the balcony. ``The neighbors won't like it,'' he said, referring to the generator noise, ``but I'm beyond caring. We can't live like this.'' Earlier in the week, the U.N. mission in Kosovo called an emergency meeting of international and local leaders to try and cope with the situation should it reach crisis proportions. But nothing is being done. Locals figure it's the United Nations responsibility to improve the situation, so they wait for the slow-moving wheels of Kosovo's international administration. The U.N. refugee agency is preparing kits of plastic and wood-burning stoves. More than 30,000 blankets and 60,000 sleeping bags, as well as winter clothing, also have been readied should the situation reach get worse. ``We are encouraging people to congregate in a room,'' to keep warm, said Peter Kessler, a spokesman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees in Pristina. Kessler said they were particularly worried about urban areas, where people depend on electricity for heat. The U.N. mission said Friday it expected the situation to improve over the weekend when another generator unit is expected to go online. But with just 240 megawatts of electricity available being produced at the power station and arriving from neighboring countries, most residents who depend on electricity to heat their homes get only enough power in the day to keep food and pipes from freezing over as temperatures hover around freezing and often dip below it at night. Poor maintenance, outdated equipment at the power station and a shortage of fuel has caused the trouble, the U.N. mission has said. Kosovo -- and its ethnic Albanian majority -- has for years been neglected by Serbia, leading to the poor state of energy generating equipment. And with its troops out and NATO peacekeepers in Kosovo, Belgrade clearly now has no interest in providing power to the province it has lost all but formally, particularly as it does not have enough energy for residents of Serbia proper. From dardan at alb-net.com Sat Jan 15 20:04:08 2000 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:04:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Rryma In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Aeroporti ka pase agregat qysh ne te 80-tat. Bizneset tjera qe varen nga rryma poashtu kane agregate (gjeneratore). Tung, Dardani From etrit at alb-net.com Sun Jan 16 15:12:35 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 15:12:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] US Soldier Charged in Kosovo Death of an 11-year-old Albanian Girl Message-ID: January 16, 2000 US Soldier Charged in Kosovo Death By The Associated Press VITINA, Yugoslavia (AP) -- A U.S. soldier serving with the international peacekeeping force in eastern Kosovo was charged Sunday with sexually assaulting and killing an 11-year-old ethnic Albanian girl, the head of Kosovo's American forces said. Staff Sgt. Frank J. Ronghi faces charges of murder and indecent acts with a child, Brig. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez told reporters. It is the first time a soldier has been detained for this type of incident since NATO-led peacekeepers entered the province on June 12. Ronghi is a weapons squad leader assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 405th Parachute Infantry Regiment from Fort Bragg, N.C., Sanchez said. His age and hometown were not immediately available. He was being held in detention and was soon to be transferred to the U.S. Army's Mannheim confinement facility in Germany. Ronghi is accused of killing the girl Thursday near the town of Vitina, Sanchez said. A senior U.N. official who asked not to be named said Saturday that the girl appeared to have been raped before she was killed. In Vitina, the slain girl's father, Hamdi Shabiu, showed reporters a photo of his daughter's corpse that he said a U.S. officer brought him late Thursday, when he was informed of her death. The girl's face appeared battered and bruised, with a small cut on her forehead. Shabiu said he last saw his daughter early Thursday when she left to go to the market. She did not return. Neighbors in an apartment complex across the street told him her body had been found in the basement of the building. U.S. Army officials would not confirm that. ``They killed her 20 meters (yards) away from the house,'' he said. ``They took her -- she was only 11 1-2 years old.'' The incident has outraged ethnic Albanian families in Vitina, 45 miles east of Pristina. ``We don't want them here to give us security if they are going to do this,'' said Muharram Samakova, a neighbor of the Shabiu family. Sanchez met Saturday night with community leaders in Vitina and offered his condolences to the family, U.S. officials said. A U.S. military vehicle has been stationed outside the Shabius' apartment building since Thursday night, and military police were seen entering the building Sunday. Elsewhere in the city children gathered in front of U.S. military vehicles as usual, talking and playing with the soldiers. The army said Sunday it will appoint an officer to conduct a pretrial investigation. The investigator eventually will recommend whether the charges should be referred to a court martial. Ronghi could be tried before a military judge or a panel of officers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Home | Site Index | Site Search | Forums | Archives From LINESMAN at webtv.net Mon Jan 17 00:08:59 2000 From: LINESMAN at webtv.net (LINESMAN at webtv.net) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:08:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Arben Arapi.... dhe etrit zotnia In-Reply-To: Sander Sinishtaj 's message of Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <13155-3882A3EB-18121@storefull-126.bryant.webtv.net> Could anyone please tell me any contact info in Kosova for Hashim Thaci and his Democratic Progress Party. I would like to get a hold of him or a representative of his party either over in Kosova or here in the USA From LINESMAN at webtv.net Mon Jan 17 00:10:45 2000 From: LINESMAN at webtv.net (LINESMAN at webtv.net) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 00:10:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Need Info Please on Thaci In-Reply-To: Sander Sinishtaj 's message of Fri, 14 Jan 2000 16:59:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <13155-3882A455-18129@storefull-126.bryant.webtv.net> Can anyone supply me with contact info for Hashim Thaci and his Democratic Progress Party in Kosova. Need a way to contact them in Kosova or if he has a representative here in USA, any help would be appreciated. Respect BK From LaMaria4u at aol.com Mon Jan 17 12:10:17 2000 From: LaMaria4u at aol.com (LaMaria4u at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:10:17 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] postal service Message-ID: Can someone PLEASE inform me if the postal service is running in the city of Prishtina? I've sent mail to my friend (Uranik Begu) but got nothing in return. Is there even internet access? I would appreciate any information that anyone has. Thanks. LaMaria4u at aol.com From mentor at alb-net.com Mon Jan 17 13:39:03 2000 From: mentor at alb-net.com (Mentor Cana) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:39:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] alb-net.com offer: creating other mailing lists Message-ID: Dear friends, Alb-Net.Com offers free hosting of mailing lists (discussion forums and distribution lists) dealing with subject that pertain to Albania and Albanians. We encourage Albanian professional organizations, none-for-profit organization, NGOs run by Albanians, academic associations and organization, etc.... to use this service to their benefit. Also, if you have a hobby or some community activity for which you would like to be connected online with friends and participants, please let us now. For similar lists please visit: http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo Please note that services offered at alb-net.com are none commercial, therefore any mailing list should be commercial free. If you like to establish a mailing lists please e-mail me with such a request with short description of the list intention and the purpose. Sincerely, Mentor Cana, Coordinator Alb-Net.Com Group http://www.alb-net.com From ramis39 at hotmail.com Mon Jan 17 14:12:19 2000 From: ramis39 at hotmail.com (Ramis Ahmetaj) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:12:19 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] postal service Message-ID: <20000117191219.72379.qmail@hotmail.com> To anyone interested, conventional mail service is not available in Prishtina yet, but a local entreprenuer has received the franchise rights to DHL operations in Kosova and begun operations, for quite sometime now. I have received packages from Kosova through DHL, and everythinig seems to be OK. Good Luck >From: LaMaria4u at aol.com >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at prishtina.com >Subject: [Prishtina-l] postal service >Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:10:17 EST > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >Can someone PLEASE inform me if the postal service is running in the city >of >Prishtina? I've sent mail to my friend (Uranik Begu) but got nothing in >return. Is there even internet access? I would appreciate any information >that anyone has. Thanks. >LaMaria4u at aol.com > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Jan 17 18:16:24 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:16:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier tried in Kosova? Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering, why isn't this soldier who committed such a crime as raping and killing a Kosovar girl being tried in Kosova? Etrit. From MentorNimani at aol.com Mon Jan 17 19:01:21 2000 From: MentorNimani at aol.com (MentorNimani at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:01:21 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier tried in Kosova? Message-ID: <61.d82852.25b50751@aol.com> Hi, The American Soldier is responsible only to his commander in chief and is tried only according to the American Laws. Usually according to the military laws. USA considers that their soldiers are under their jurisdiction, even if they are outside their real or fictional territory. USA wouldn't admit the Jurisdiction of Hague War Crime Tribunal. USA was the only one that did not sign the International Criminal Court, fearing that one day they citizens or soldiers might be tried by it. Although, this can be considered somewhat unfair, the victim can be satisfied with the punishments that are foreseen in American Legal system. Unlike European Union that does not have Death Penalty or unlike Kosova previous legal system that foresaw the highest punishment of maximum 20 years, American system have life in prison and death. Therefore the soldier, if found guilty, will be harshly punished, with life in prison, if not the capital punishment. If he would have been tried in Kosova, he would have been punished maximum 20 years in prison. There is another issue, the prisons in USA are known with their hardship, he will suffer and he will pay for the crime, if he gets life in prison. In Kosova he would have had a beautiful prison lifestyle when comparing it with the American one. Also the soldier will be banned forever to join the army in the future. His life is already ruined. But nothing can satisfy the family of the girl who was killed in such a brutal way. The Justice is something totally different from the Law. I hope I helped, Mentor Nimani From puka at usa.net Tue Jan 18 00:14:59 2000 From: puka at usa.net (G.S) Date: 18 Jan 00 00:14:59 EST Subject: [[Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier tried in Kosova?] Message-ID: <20000118051459.23930.qmail@www0h.netaddress.usa.net> There are a couple of reasons I would rather have him tried under US military law: 1- US military law is a lot harsher than regular US law and Kosova does not have any laws at the moment. 2- Every 10 years something happens in the Balkans in which all prisoners are either released or escape. In the US once you are in you are in for life. 3- In Kosova you wont get raped in prison, in the US you will (which is taken into consideration before commiting a crime). 4- Child molesters are usually killed pretty quickly in US prisons because most prisoners were abused as children and have a hatred for child molesters. Gembi ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com Tue Jan 18 01:19:58 2000 From: UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com (UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 01:19:58 EST Subject: [[Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier tried in Kosova?] Message-ID: uuuueeehhhhh ......... luja gemb he matematik 1......2........3......4....... lol tung From rdavis at utica.gannett.com Tue Jan 18 07:25:00 2000 From: rdavis at utica.gannett.com (rdavis at utica.gannett.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:25:00 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier trie Message-ID: <20000118121023.3E6B5DBF6@smtpgate.gannett.com> The U.S. military will not allow anyone jurisdiction over its people except itself. There have been major arguments over even serving under a UN commander, let alone allowing servicepeople to be tried in non-American courts. As for the punishment, we shall see. Military justice can be very harsh, but 10 years in a federal prison is probably what the soldier will face, unless he is ruled mentally incompetent, in which he may go to a less harsh psychiatric hospital. As for the comment that sex offenders are killed in prisons, that's not always true. They are often abused in prison, but killings are rare. The real issue, from the military's point of view, is that they maintain control over his fate. From ssander at ans.net Tue Jan 18 10:20:06 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:20:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier trie In-Reply-To: <20000118121023.3E6B5DBF6@smtpgate.gannett.com> Message-ID: Hello RDavis, I was just wondering if you were familiar with a punishment that U.S Military would place upon a soldier who murders a young girl, aside from raping her. I ask this only because I am not familiar with the U.S Military judicial system. thanx - Sander On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 rdavis at utica.gannett.com wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > The U.S. military will not allow anyone jurisdiction over its people except > itself. There have been major arguments over even serving under a UN > commander, let alone allowing servicepeople to be tried in non-American > courts. > As for the punishment, we shall see. Military justice can be very harsh, but > > 10 years in a federal prison is probably what the soldier will face, unless > he is ruled mentally incompetent, in which he may go to a less harsh > psychiatric hospital. > As for the comment that sex offenders are killed in prisons, that's not > always true. They are often abused in prison, but killings are rare. > The real issue, from the military's point of view, is that they maintain > control over his fate. > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From puka at usa.net Tue Jan 18 12:37:10 2000 From: puka at usa.net (G.S) Date: 18 Jan 00 12:37:10 EST Subject: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier trie] Message-ID: <20000118173710.15882.qmail@nwcst313.netaddress.usa.net> On CNN they said that he could get the death penalty, but that the likely sentence will be life in prison , if he gets convicted. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com Tue Jan 18 13:41:27 2000 From: jlincolnlewis at hotmail.com (Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:41:27 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier . . . Message-ID: <20000118184127.50714.qmail@hotmail.com> I hate to be pessimistic, but there are a lot of misconceptions about the American prison system. I come from a town with a medium security state-prison (rapists, armed robbers, violent assault). I've toured it. They have cable television, a full-sized football field, basketball courts, and a weight room. Harsh punishment? They live better than a lot of decent citizens that I know. Also, in states with the death penalty (mine being one of them), very few people actually get the death penalty for a single murder, assuming it is their first conviction for murder. Whether or not he raped her will not in itself get him the death penalty. My guess is he'll get a dishonorable discharge after less than 10 years in prison. There is little to no chance that anyone is going to kill him in prison. I'd almost prefer they just left him with the girl's family for an hour . . . . ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From LINESMAN at webtv.net Tue Jan 18 13:54:44 2000 From: LINESMAN at webtv.net (LINESMAN at webtv.net) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:54:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier . . . In-Reply-To: "Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis" 's message of Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:41:27 GMT Message-ID: <6709-3884B6F4-18725@storefull-122.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Well Spoken, god bless you. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis" Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier . . . Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:41:27 GMT Size: 2906 URL: From gugja at hotmail.com Tue Jan 18 12:41:20 2000 From: gugja at hotmail.com (ARIANIT MATOSHI) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:41:20 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000118174120.52174.qmail@hotmail.com> Oooooooo Kosovar a jeni gjalle a qysh jeni,qysh i kini punte etj ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From zlqq2 at ACCESS.ETSU.EDU Tue Jan 18 23:29:18 2000 From: zlqq2 at ACCESS.ETSU.EDU (zlqq2 at ACCESS.ETSU.EDU) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Anetaret nga Prishtina In-Reply-To: <20000111110704.12797.qmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: tung Arben Linda ktu nga Tennessee veq dashta tju pershendes te fala Polinikut tung Linda Qosja From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 19 00:39:21 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:39:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] The trial of teh soldier Message-ID: Simon in his letter says the following among other things: >More importantly, Albanians all over the world should continue to support >America's troops in Kosova -- these brave men and women have placed >themselves well beyond the call of duty to help the Albanian people. One >bad apple should not taint the Albanian view and acceptance of America's >role in the region. Of course we have to support them, however local people in Kosova should also be aware not to view the soldiers without reservations. Even though they view the soldiers as great Americans, or as one put it "the civilized people," they should know that many of these soldiers come from lower income and/or uneducated families, as joining the army provides a secure future for them. Go to the following web site to learn more about Frank Ronghi, it has some video clips... http://www.newsnet5.com/news/stories/news-20000118-034724.html From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 19 00:44:40 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:44:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:50:14 +0100 From: Nol Shala - Prej Janarit t? k?tij viti n? Prishtin? doli nga shtypi numri i par? i revist?s "Dardania Sacra". Revista vjetore p?rmbledh nj? num?r tekstesh kulturore-shkencore kosovare nga fushat e dijenis? historike, kulturore, arkeologjike, arteve, ekonomis?, teknik?s, gjuh?s dhe let?rsis?. Kryeredaktor i revist?s Prof. Dr. Engjell Sedaj njoftoj se p?r numrin e par? t? revist?s shkruajt?n Dr. Musa Limani, Dr. Asllan Pushka, Dr. Minir Dushi, Dr. Engjell Dobruna, Naser Ferati, Dr. Jahja Dram?olli dhe shum? t? tjer?t. - Me 12. Janar 2000 n? Prishtin? n? lokalin "Veranda" ?sht? mbajtur ora letrare kushtuar poetit t? njohur Mirko Gashi. Fjal?n hyr?se e mbajti Daut Demaku, drejtor i sht?pis? botuese "Rilindja", i cili foli mbi jet?n e poetit, nd?rsa shkrimtari Sali Bashota p?rshkruajti veprimtarin? e zotit Gashi. N? k?t? tubim mor?n pjes? shum? shkrimtar? dhe intelektual kosovar, kupari u lexuan pjes? nga veprimtaria e tij si dhe vjershat e kushtuar poetit t? ndjer. - K?tyre dit?ve n? Istog u formua shoq?rija kulturore-artistike (SHKA) "Selman Kadria" e cila n? kuadrin e vet? tubon 24 k?ng?tar? dhe 5 an?tar? t? orkestr?s nga Istogu dhe rrethina. Udh?heq?s artistik i shoq?ris? Ismet Demaj deklaroj se deri tani kjo shoq?ri shfaqi disa programe artistike t? sukseshme n? Istog dhe qytete tjera t? Kosov?s. Gati si ?do shoq?ri tjet?r n? Kosov? edhe k?saj shoq?rije i mungojn? instrumentet, prandaj p?rgjegj?sit p?r kultur? t? komun?s s? Istogut kan? shtruar nj? projektk?rkes? p?r ndihm? drejtuar organeve austriake, me shpres? se brenda Janarit k?rkesa t? realizohet. - Akademiku i njohur kosovar Ismet Jonuzi asistent n? Akademin? e Arteve t? Universitetit t? Kosov?s ?sht? ftuar t? merr? pjes? n? simpoziumin nd?rkomb?tar t? skulptur?s bashk?kohore n? D?rren t? Gjermanis?. Simpoziumi do t? mbahet n? ambientin e hapur me 15. Maj 2000 n? D?rren t? Gjermanis?, n? t? cil?n do t? jen? t? pranish?m skulptor?t eminent nga Gjermanija, Franca, Italia, Holanda, Belgjika dhe shtetet tjera. Ky ?sht? simpoziumi i tret? me rradh? internacional i zotit Jonuzi n? t? cil?n aj e prezenton Kosov?n. - Manifestimi i 20 vjetorit t? themelimit t? galeris? s? arteve t? Kosov?s i cili ?sht? dashur t? mbahet n? Dhjetor t? vitit t? kaluar me t? gjitha gjasa do t? mbahet n? Janar t? k?tij viti n?n patronazhin e administratorit civil t? KB zotit Bernard Kouchner. Drejtori i galeris? zoti Luan Mulliqi njofton se s? shpejti do t? realizohen dy monografi t? artit kosovar, nj?ri i arteve vizive, nd?rsa tjetri i arteve aplikative. Zoti Mulliqi gjithashtu njoftoj se punohet n? riadaptimin e nd?rtes?s s? "Unionit" n? nj? galeri moderne evropiane. P?rndryshe kjo galeri n? muajt e kaluar ka realizu projekt-ekspozita t? ndryshme q? zgjuan interesim t? madh tek vizitor?t kosovar. P?r gazet?n e Kulturserver Kosova raporton Beq? Mulliqi nga Prishtina ****************************************************** * the online-community for art+culture http://www.kulturserver.de * ****************************************************** From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 19 00:53:01 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:53:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier tried in Kosova? In-Reply-To: <61.d82852.25b50751@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 MentorNimani at aol.com wrote: > There is another issue, the prisons in USA are known with their hardship, he > will suffer and he will pay for the crime, if he gets life in prison. In > Kosova he would have had a beautiful prison lifestyle when comparing it with > the American one. > Yes, unless you were an Albanian political prisoner... Etrit. > > I hope I helped, > Mentor Nimani From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 19 01:02:34 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 01:02:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier . . . In-Reply-To: <20000118184127.50714.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis wrote: > My guess is he'll get a dishonorable discharge after less than 10 years in > prison. There is little to no chance that anyone is going to kill him in > prison. 10 years with cable tv, basketball and tennis courts with room and board paid for, for killing a girl and ruining one entire family? What kind of justice would this be? I agree with your next statement: > > I'd almost prefer they just left him with the girl's family for an hour . . From a.arifi at chello.nl Wed Jan 19 10:22:55 2000 From: a.arifi at chello.nl (Avni Arifi) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:22:55 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] UNSUBSCRIBE ME References: <200001190500.AAA28985@alb-net.com> Message-ID: <3885D6CF.3DF5406D@chello.nl> UNSUBSCRIBE ME prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com wrote: > Send Prishtina-L mailing list submissions to > prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > prishtina-l-request at alb-net.com > You can reach the person managing the list at > prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Prishtina-L digest..." > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier trie] (G.S) > 2. Why isn't the soldier . . . (Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis) > 3. Re: Why isn't the soldier . . . (linesman at webtv.net) > 4. (no subject) (ARIANIT MATOSHI) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier trie] > Date: 18 Jan 00 12:37:10 EST > From: "G.S" > Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > On CNN they said that he could get the death penalty, but that the likely > sentence will be life in prison , if he gets convicted. > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier . . . > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:41:27 GMT > From: "Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis" > Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > I hate to be pessimistic, but there are a lot of misconceptions about the > American prison system. > > I come from a town with a medium security state-prison (rapists, armed > robbers, violent assault). I've toured it. They have cable television, a > full-sized football field, basketball courts, and a weight room. Harsh > punishment? They live better than a lot of decent citizens that I know. > > Also, in states with the death penalty (mine being one of them), very few > people actually get the death penalty for a single murder, assuming it is > their first conviction for murder. Whether or not he raped her will not in > itself get him the death penalty. > > My guess is he'll get a dishonorable discharge after less than 10 years in > prison. There is little to no chance that anyone is going to kill him in > prison. > > I'd almost prefer they just left him with the girl's family for an hour . . > . . > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier . . . > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:54:44 -0500 (EST) > From: LINESMAN at webtv.net > Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > Well Spoken, god bless you. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Prishtina-l] Why isn't the soldier . . . > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:41:27 GMT > From: "Jennifer Lincoln-Lewis" > Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > I hate to be pessimistic, but there are a lot of misconceptions about the > American prison system. > > I come from a town with a medium security state-prison (rapists, armed > robbers, violent assault). I've toured it. They have cable television, a > full-sized football field, basketball courts, and a weight room. Harsh > punishment? They live better than a lot of decent citizens that I know. > > Also, in states with the death penalty (mine being one of them), very few > people actually get the death penalty for a single murder, assuming it is > their first conviction for murder. Whether or not he raped her will not in > itself get him the death penalty. > > My guess is he'll get a dishonorable discharge after less than 10 years in > prison. There is little to no chance that anyone is going to kill him in > prison. > > I'd almost prefer they just left him with the girl's family for an hour . . > . . > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:41:20 GMT > From: "ARIANIT MATOSHI" > Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > Oooooooo Kosovar a jeni gjalle a qysh jeni,qysh i kini punte etj > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Prishtina-L mailing list > Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Keith From gugja at hotmail.com Wed Jan 19 15:15:41 2000 From: gugja at hotmail.com (ARIANIT MATOSHI) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:15:41 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000119201541.89945.qmail@hotmail.com> The guy who killed 12 years old girl in Kosova,he neads bullit in head. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From rdavis at utica.gannett.com Wed Jan 19 15:47:00 2000 From: rdavis at utica.gannett.com (Davis, Russ (Utica)) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:47:00 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000119203306.3E5A546EF@smtpgate.gannett.com> But that would be justice, and never let us confuse justice with the law. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- REPLY FROM: Davis, Russ (Utica) Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: ARIANIT MATOSHI To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Date: 2000-01-19 15:15 Priority: 3 Message ID: 6E8BA038A9CED3119F4500A0C9EA57B4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l The guy who killed 12 years old girl in Kosova,he neads bullit in head. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Jan 19 16:10:31 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:10:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Travel To Kosova (fwd) Message-ID: please reply directly. etrit. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:15:18 -0500 From: irvbell To: support at alb-net.com Subject: Travel To Kosova I have heard that the Russians have finally opened the Pristina airport to commercial air traffic. Is it true? Is it therefore now possible to fly into Pristina? Also, when I was in Kosova in September the drive from Gjakove to Pristina was very difficult, because some bridges that NATO had bombed were down. Do you know whether those bridges have been repaired yet? Please advise. Thank you. Irving Bell, Cleveland, Ohio. From besnik at alb-net.com Wed Jan 19 16:54:59 2000 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:54:59 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kam kujtuar se kemi heqe dore prej socializmit... >- K?tyre dit?ve n? Istog u formua shoq?rija kulturore-artistike (SHKA) >"Selman Kadria" e cila n? kuadrin e vet? tubon 24 k?ng?tar? dhe 5 an?tar? t? >orkestr?s nga Istogu dhe rrethina. Udh?heq?s artistik i shoq?ris? Ismet >Demaj deklaroj se deri tani kjo shoq?ri shfaqi disa programe artistike t? >sukseshme n? Istog dhe qytete tjera t? Kosov?s. Gati si ?do shoq?ri tjet?r >n? Kosov? edhe k?saj shoq?rije i mungojn? instrumentet, prandaj p?rgjegj?sit >p?r kultur? t? komun?s s? Istogut kan? shtruar nj? projektk?rkes? p?r ndihm? >drejtuar organeve austriake, me shpres? se brenda Janarit k?rkesa t? >realizohet. From Aulona97 at aol.com Wed Jan 19 20:35:39 2000 From: Aulona97 at aol.com (Aulona97 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:35:39 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE Message-ID: JU LUTEM SHUME ME C'REGJISTRONI NGA KJO FAQE PASI NUK KISHTE NDONJE INTERES TE VECANTE NE DOBI TE SHQIPERISE,DHE BASHKIMIT KOMBETAR SHQIPETAR.TE ME FALNI PER VREJTJEN POR DUHET TE ELIMINONI DISA CILIMIJ NGA KJO FAQE QE E KTHEJNE KETE WEB NE NJE LODER SHQIPTARE ALLA ALBANIAN CHAT ROOMS. From dkryeziu at vnet.net Thu Jan 20 01:31:44 2000 From: dkryeziu at vnet.net (drin kryeziu) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 01:31:44 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE References: Message-ID: <3886ABD0.82CC4090@vnet.net> Aulona97 at aol.com wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > JU LUTEM SHUME ME C'REGJISTRONI NGA KJO FAQE PASI NUK KISHTE NDONJE INTERES > TE VECANTE NE DOBI TE SHQIPERISE,DHE BASHKIMIT KOMBETAR SHQIPETAR.TE ME FALNI > PER VREJTJEN POR DUHET TE ELIMINONI DISA CILIMIJ NGA KJO FAQE QE E KTHEJNE > KETE WEB NE NJE LODER SHQIPTARE ALLA ALBANIAN CHAT ROOMS. > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l Aulona. Keni t? drejt? plot?sisht.Por nuk ?sht? e mundshme t? eleminohem por mos kontatoni me ta dhe ?do gj? do t? jent? n? rregull. Kush nuk ?sht? p?r bashkimin e t? gjitha trojeve shqiptare nuk ka vend k?tu. Drini From grugova at rumms.uni-mannheim.de Thu Jan 20 02:59:04 2000 From: grugova at rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Gezim RUGOVA) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:59:04 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 References: Message-ID: <3886C048.9B6CB28B@rumms.uni-mannheim.de> Besnik Pula schrieb: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Kam kujtuar se kemi heqe dore prej socializmit... > Nese ende nuk e ke kuptuar se ku eshte vetem fillimi, atehere eshte koha e fundit per kete... Persh. Gezimi > > >- K?tyre dit?ve n? Istog u formua shoq?rija kulturore-artistike (SHKA) > >"Selman Kadria" e cila n? kuadrin e vet? tubon 24 k?ng?tar? dhe 5 an?tar? t? > >orkestr?s nga Istogu dhe rrethina. Udh?heq?s artistik i shoq?ris? Ismet > >Demaj deklaroj se deri tani kjo shoq?ri shfaqi disa programe artistike t? > >sukseshme n? Istog dhe qytete tjera t? Kosov?s. Gati si ?do shoq?ri tjet?r > >n? Kosov? edhe k?saj shoq?rije i mungojn? instrumentet, prandaj p?rgjegj?sit > >p?r kultur? t? komun?s s? Istogut kan? shtruar nj? projektk?rkes? p?r ndihm? > >drejtuar organeve austriake, me shpres? se brenda Janarit k?rkesa t? > >realizohet. > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l From juniku at hotmail.com Thu Jan 20 04:44:50 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 01:44:50 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 Message-ID: <20000120094451.86412.qmail@hotmail.com> I dashuri Besnik dhe Gezim, nese komentet e juaja te meposhtme mbi formimin e nje shoqate kulturo-artistike dikund ne nje qyetet te Republikes se Kosoves nuk jane humor (edhepse shijon i pakripe), atehere jam i brengosur se dicka antikulture shqiptare qendron ne konstatimet tuaja. Une mendoj se ne te gjithe kemi qene pjese e atij sistemi politik mgjth. te impozuar nga okupuesit qe me kalimin e kohes u imponuan ne kolonizatore sui generis, natyrisht disa me shume ne anen e sistemit dhe disa kunder sistemit. Ne mendimet e mia formimi i shoqatave kulturore-argetuese qe perfshijne sidomos kengetare dhe qe sipas emertimit kane nje mision kulturor dhe argetues nuk e di pse do te vendosej ne konotacion me mosheqjen ose heqjen dore dore apo me fillimin dhe kohen e fundit te shohim se po na rrezikoka socialzmi. Nuk e di cfare paska te beje nje kenge e kenduar per Ago Ymerin me socializmin? Ose mos ndodh se ishte drejt nje studiues politik kur thoshte se ne kohrat e tranzicioneve nga socializmi ne demokraci jane pikerisht socialistet (lexo komunistet) qe qesin me se shumti vrer kunder socializmit. Nje, sepse mendojne se duke bere keshtu e shlyejne te kaluaren e tyre si pjesmarres dhe tentojne te mbesin pjesemarres politik edhe ne kushte te reja, dhe dy sepse e vetmja menyre te besh nje ceshtje detyrimisht aktuale eshte metoda e te venurit te asaj ceshtje si teme te dites cdo dite. Shoqerite kulturore-artistike dhe grupet kulturore- muzikore nuk fillojne as perfundojne sistemet politike, eshte e vertete ato i influencojne ato, por jane grupet ose klanet politike qe tentojne te ruajne ose etablojne sisteme te ndryshme politike dhe pse jo edhe socializmin si nje enderr e keqe e shqiptareve. Mos te harroj ta cek- per disa ky ish tmerr shqiptar ka qene parajsa e privilegjeve. Per krijimin e sa me shume SHKA-ve dhe pse jo edhe grupeve te striptizit erotik ne Kosove. U. Lushi >From: Gezim RUGOVA >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:59:04 +0100 > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > >Besnik Pula schrieb: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Kam kujtuar se kemi heqe dore prej socializmit... > > > >Nese ende nuk e ke kuptuar se ku eshte vetem fillimi, atehere eshte koha e >fundit >per kete... > >Persh. >Gezimi > > > > > > >- K?tyre dit?ve n? Istog u formua shoq?rija kulturore-artistike (SHKA) > > >"Selman Kadria" e cila n? kuadrin e vet? tubon 24 k?ng?tar? dhe 5 >an?tar? t? > > >orkestr?s nga Istogu dhe rrethina. Udh?heq?s artistik i shoq?ris? Ismet > > >Demaj deklaroj se deri tani kjo shoq?ri shfaqi disa programe artistike >t? > > >sukseshme n? Istog dhe qytete tjera t? Kosov?s. Gati si ?do shoq?ri >tjet?r > > >n? Kosov? edhe k?saj shoq?rije i mungojn? instrumentet, prandaj >p?rgjegj?sit > > >p?r kultur? t? komun?s s? Istogut kan? shtruar nj? projektk?rkes? p?r >ndihm? > > >drejtuar organeve austriake, me shpres? se brenda Janarit k?rkesa t? > > >realizohet. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From grugova at rumms.uni-mannheim.de Thu Jan 20 06:40:24 2000 From: grugova at rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Gezim RUGOVA) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:40:24 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 References: <20000120094451.86412.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3886F428.89F6C7F4@rumms.uni-mannheim.de> Uk Lushi schrieb: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > I dashuri Besnik dhe Gezim, > > nese komentet e juaja te meposhtme mbi formimin e nje shoqate > kulturo-artistike dikund ne nje qyetet te Republikes se Kosoves nuk jane > humor (edhepse shijon i pakripe), atehere jam i brengosur se dicka > antikulture shqiptare qendron ne konstatimet tuaja. > I nderuari z.Uk Ai nuk eshte ndonje qytet diku ne R. e Kosoves por eshte qyteti qe une e shkruaj me shkronja te medha pasi qe eshte vendlindja ime. Personalishte cka me ka penguar eshte vete emri i kesaj shoqate, "Shoqeria kulturore-artistike". kjo si e para e per disa gjera tjera qe kam ndodhur rreth kesaj shoqate dhe ndoshta qe e percjellin ende kete shoqate,mendoj se ketu nuk mund te sqarojme as une ne Gjermani e as ti ne ... (ku ta di une se ku je duke jetuar tani, pasi qe se je larguar nga Stuttgarti kurre me nuk kam ndegjuar gje nga ti). Pa dashur ti ike temes dhe pa dashur te hyje ne polemika per munges kohe (ketu ne Gjermani tash eshte afat provimesh), te shtoj se kulture eshte duke bere edhe "Rilindja" ne Prishtine e cila me siguri per hire te kultures e ka nderruar logon me te cilin e njohim te gjithe ne dhe qe e ka percjelle ate mese gjysem shekulli, ne nje logo te kuqe qe me siguri simbolizon "kulture". Por cfare? Kjo disi me asocon ne gjedhe te cilave ju vuhen syze te gjelberta per te ngrene kashten kur mungon sana! Apo dikush don te terheq vemendjen? > Une mendoj se ne te gjithe kemi qene pjese e atij sistemi politik mgjth. te > impozuar nga okupuesit qe me kalimin e kohes u imponuan ne kolonizatore sui > generis, natyrisht disa me shume ne anen e sistemit dhe disa kunder > sistemit. Ne mendimet e mia formimi i shoqatave kulturore-argetuese qe > perfshijne sidomos kengetare dhe qe sipas emertimit kane nje mision kulturor > dhe argetues nuk e di pse do te vendosej ne konotacion me mosheqjen ose > heqjen dore dore apo me fillimin dhe kohen e fundit te shohim se po na > rrezikoka socialzmi. > Nuk e di cfare paska te beje nje kenge e kenduar per Ago Ymerin me > socializmin? Ose mos ndodh se ishte drejt nje studiues politik kur thoshte > se ne kohrat e tranzicioneve nga socializmi ne demokraci jane pikerisht > socialistet (lexo komunistet) qe qesin me se shumti vrer kunder socializmit. > Nje, sepse mendojne se duke bere keshtu e shlyejne te kaluaren e tyre si > pjesmarres dhe tentojne te mbesin pjesemarres politik edhe ne kushte te > reja, dhe dy sepse e vetmja menyre te besh nje ceshtje detyrimisht aktuale > eshte metoda e te venurit te asaj ceshtje si teme te dites cdo dite. > Shoqerite kulturore-artistike dhe grupet kulturore- muzikore nuk fillojne as > perfundojne sistemet politike, eshte e vertete ato i influencojne ato, por > jane grupet ose klanet politike qe tentojne te ruajne ose etablojne sisteme > te ndryshme politike dhe pse jo edhe socializmin si nje enderr e keqe e > shqiptareve. Mos te harroj ta cek- per disa ky ish tmerr shqiptar ka qene > parajsa e privilegjeve. > > Per krijimin e sa me shume SHKA-ve dhe pse jo edhe grupeve te striptizit > erotik ne Kosove. > > U. Lushi > Me duket se jemi keqkuptuar ... Me gjithe ate pershendetje Gezimi -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: grugova.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 237 bytes Desc: Visitenkarte f?r Gezim RUGOVA URL: From juniku at hotmail.com Thu Jan 20 07:14:25 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:14:25 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 Message-ID: <20000120121425.97093.qmail@hotmail.com> >I nderuari z.Uk > >Ai nuk eshte ndonje qytet diku ne R. e Kosoves por eshte qyteti qe une e >shkruaj >me shkronja te medha pasi qe eshte vendlindja ime. Sidoqofte cdo vendbanim eshte dikund dhe tautologjikisht cdo vendlindje poashtu. :) I dashuri Gezim, me duhet te bej nje diskursion krejt te shkurter dhe per mua kjo ceshtje shte e mbyllur. E para: deshiruam ne ose jo tradita eshte nje fundament qe i keq o i mire se vlen te rrenohet, por nuk e perjashtoj se duhet te renovohet, plotesohet, pershatatet etj. Njerzit duhet te bejne aktivitete... Nuk eshte forma por eshte permbajtja ajo qe i perckaton gjerat. Se cfare jane ngjyrat e logove te gazetave dhe emrat e organizatave qofte edhe kulturore nuk e percaktojne nje vend si demokratik, komunist apo fetar. Sa i perket vendgjendjes sone ajo eshte poashtu relative ngase une isha duke folur per koncepte qe jane universale- emertimi e jo programi i ketyre shoqerive... e dyta; personalisht mendoj se vetm nje force e djathte mund ta ndryshoje Kosoven. Vetem nje force e djathte, demokratike dhe kombtare (po po kombetare edhepse shume shqiptare jane bere multikulti- por preki SHBA-te n interesa nacionale se t kallxoj) mund te beje rindertimin e infrastruktures dhe institucioneve qe mgjth. duhet te trashegohen nga e kaluara dhe te mesohet te ndahen sipas parimit te meritokracise. Dhe pse e them kete? Jo sepse mendoj se e majta nuk e pasuron dhe komplementon jeten plurale porse se ajo ne Kosove eshte degjenerike, klanore dhe nuk ka arritur te afiliohet ne nje force me program shtetdrejtues por ka mbetur ose ne prapaskena, posacerisht ish strukturat partiake gjate socializmit jugosllav dhe ne rruge djemte naive qe kane qene te indoktrinuar me ideologji ne vend se me dije. dhe e treta eshte e vertete se shkembimi i mendimeve per tema te ketilla meriton me shume kohe dhe hapesire, mirepo ky eshte funksioni i listave te diskutimeve te komunikojme me njerei tjetrin. Une nuk munda te mos reagoja sepse per mua SHKA-te kane qene nje gur i forte ne ndertesen e ruajtjes se vetedijes nacionale ne Kosove. Te fala dhe suksese ne provime. Mos harro se jeta eshte e mbusur me provime dhe nuk je duke pasur per here te pare provime!:) U. Lushi Personalishte cka me ka >penguar eshte vete emri i kesaj shoqate, "Shoqeria kulturore-artistike". >kjo si >e para e per disa gjera tjera qe kam ndodhur rreth kesaj shoqate dhe >ndoshta qe >e percjellin ende kete shoqate,mendoj se ketu nuk mund te sqarojme as une >ne >Gjermani e as ti ne ... (ku ta di une se ku je duke jetuar tani, pasi qe se >je >larguar nga Stuttgarti kurre me nuk kam ndegjuar gje nga ti). > >Pa dashur ti ike temes dhe pa dashur te hyje ne polemika per munges kohe >(ketu >ne Gjermani tash eshte afat provimesh), te shtoj se kulture eshte duke bere >edhe >"Rilindja" ne Prishtine e cila me siguri per hire te kultures e ka nderruar >logon me te cilin e njohim te gjithe ne dhe qe e ka percjelle ate mese >gjysem >shekulli, ne nje logo te kuqe qe me siguri simbolizon "kulture". Por cfare? >Kjo >disi me asocon ne gjedhe te cilave ju vuhen syze te gjelberta per te ngrene >kashten kur mungon sana! Apo dikush don te terheq vemendjen? > > > Une mendoj se ne te gjithe kemi qene pjese e atij sistemi politik mgjth. >te > > impozuar nga okupuesit qe me kalimin e kohes u imponuan ne kolonizatore >sui > > generis, natyrisht disa me shume ne anen e sistemit dhe disa kunder > > sistemit. Ne mendimet e mia formimi i shoqatave kulturore-argetuese qe > > perfshijne sidomos kengetare dhe qe sipas emertimit kane nje mision >kulturor > > dhe argetues nuk e di pse do te vendosej ne konotacion me mosheqjen ose > > heqjen dore dore apo me fillimin dhe kohen e fundit te shohim se po na > > rrezikoka socialzmi. > > > Nuk e di cfare paska te beje nje kenge e kenduar per Ago Ymerin me > > socializmin? Ose mos ndodh se ishte drejt nje studiues politik kur >thoshte > > se ne kohrat e tranzicioneve nga socializmi ne demokraci jane pikerisht > > socialistet (lexo komunistet) qe qesin me se shumti vrer kunder >socializmit. > > Nje, sepse mendojne se duke bere keshtu e shlyejne te kaluaren e tyre si > > pjesmarres dhe tentojne te mbesin pjesemarres politik edhe ne kushte te > > reja, dhe dy sepse e vetmja menyre te besh nje ceshtje detyrimisht >aktuale > > eshte metoda e te venurit te asaj ceshtje si teme te dites cdo dite. > > > Shoqerite kulturore-artistike dhe grupet kulturore- muzikore nuk >fillojne as > > > perfundojne sistemet politike, eshte e vertete ato i influencojne ato, >por > > > jane grupet ose klanet politike qe tentojne te ruajne ose etablojne >sisteme > > te ndryshme politike dhe pse jo edhe socializmin si nje enderr e keqe e > > shqiptareve. Mos te harroj ta cek- per disa ky ish tmerr shqiptar ka >qene > > parajsa e privilegjeve. > > > > Per krijimin e sa me shume SHKA-ve dhe pse jo edhe grupeve te striptizit > > erotik ne Kosove. > > > > U. Lushi > > > >Me duket se jemi keqkuptuar ... > >Me gjithe ate pershendetje >Gezimi > ><< grugova.vcf >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From pilika at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 08:34:10 2000 From: pilika at yahoo.com (Asti Pilika) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 05:34:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE Message-ID: <20000120133410.25275.qmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Haha, Nje person kaq mendjendritur si zotrote nuk eshte i zoti te cregjistrohet vete nga lista pa vene tellallin! Kjo mban era sabotim... --- Aulona97 at aol.com wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > JU LUTEM SHUME ME C'REGJISTRONI NGA KJO FAQE PASI > NUK KISHTE NDONJE INTERES > TE VECANTE NE DOBI TE SHQIPERISE,DHE BASHKIMIT > KOMBETAR SHQIPETAR.TE ME FALNI > PER VREJTJEN POR DUHET TE ELIMINONI DISA CILIMIJ NGA > KJO FAQE QE E KTHEJNE > KETE WEB NE NJE LODER SHQIPTARE ALLA ALBANIAN CHAT > ROOMS. > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: > Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From ssander at ans.net Thu Jan 20 10:22:47 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:22:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tungat Aulona79, sic po e sheh edhe vet, temat po zgjerohen, diskutimet po pasurohen - gje qe besoj do te na bashkoj neve se pari ne askpektin intelektual e pastaj ne ate fizik, meqe me duket se te dyjat mungojne. Diskutim te mbare! :) - Sandri On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 Aulona97 at aol.com wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > JU LUTEM SHUME ME C'REGJISTRONI NGA KJO FAQE PASI NUK KISHTE NDONJE INTERES > TE VECANTE NE DOBI TE SHQIPERISE,DHE BASHKIMIT KOMBETAR SHQIPETAR.TE ME FALNI > PER VREJTJEN POR DUHET TE ELIMINONI DISA CILIMIJ NGA KJO FAQE QE E KTHEJNE > KETE WEB NE NJE LODER SHQIPTARE ALLA ALBANIAN CHAT ROOMS. > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Thu Jan 20 10:50:52 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:50:52 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kontraspunt.. Message-ID: <20000120155052.27240.qmail@hotmail.com> Sander....pash zotin...po cfar tem apo diskutohen ...pos tri tema te mykta..Ushtari.....Rryma....Aeroporti.... Po ka tem ame te mira per diskutim lidhur me defektin Shqiptaroid.... Ardi....ROFE BAC,,,,Mushe Frizin.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ssander at ans.net Thu Jan 20 10:56:39 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:56:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kontraspunt.. In-Reply-To: <20000120155052.27240.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Ej Ardi, ec...pra..pasi dole vullnetar, sugjeroje nje teme te shendoshe per diskutim edhe nxerri sliqukat, se u bo koha per skijim! pershendetje! - Sandri On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Ardian Vukpalaj wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Sander....pash zotin...po cfar tem apo diskutohen ...pos tri tema te > mykta..Ushtari.....Rryma....Aeroporti.... > Po ka tem ame te mira per diskutim lidhur me defektin Shqiptaroid.... > Ardi....ROFE BAC,,,,Mushe Frizin.... > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From besnik.grajqevci at bt.com Thu Jan 20 11:42:29 2000 From: besnik.grajqevci at bt.com (besnik.grajqevci at bt.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:42:29 -0000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE Message-ID: <71DA16F18D32D2119A1D0000F8FE9A94040DF45D@mbtlipnt01.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Sander, Per cfare aspekti te bashkimit fizik e ki fjalen? :-) Besniku -----Original Message----- From: Sander Sinishtaj [mailto:ssander at ans.net] Sent: 20 January 2000 15:23 To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com Cc: Aulona97 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l Tungat Aulona79, sic po e sheh edhe vet, temat po zgjerohen, diskutimet po pasurohen - gje qe besoj do te na bashkoj neve se pari ne askpektin intelektual e pastaj ne ate fizik, meqe me duket se te dyjat mungojne. Diskutim te mbare! :) - Sandri On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 Aulona97 at aol.com wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > JU LUTEM SHUME ME C'REGJISTRONI NGA KJO FAQE PASI NUK KISHTE NDONJE INTERES > TE VECANTE NE DOBI TE SHQIPERISE,DHE BASHKIMIT KOMBETAR SHQIPETAR.TE ME FALNI > PER VREJTJEN POR DUHET TE ELIMINONI DISA CILIMIJ NGA KJO FAQE QE E KTHEJNE > KETE WEB NE NJE LODER SHQIPTARE ALLA ALBANIAN CHAT ROOMS. > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l From ssander at ans.net Thu Jan 20 12:03:56 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:03:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE In-Reply-To: <71DA16F18D32D2119A1D0000F8FE9A94040DF45D@mbtlipnt01.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: Besnik, Te trojeve Shqiptare, sigurisht! - Sandri On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 besnik.grajqevci at bt.com wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Sander, > > Per cfare aspekti te bashkimit fizik e ki fjalen? :-) > > Besniku > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sander Sinishtaj [mailto:ssander at ans.net] > Sent: 20 January 2000 15:23 > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > Cc: Aulona97 at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] VEREJTJE > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Tungat Aulona79, > > sic po e sheh edhe vet, temat po zgjerohen, diskutimet po pasurohen - gje > qe besoj do te na bashkoj neve se pari ne askpektin intelektual e pastaj > ne ate fizik, meqe me duket se te dyjat mungojne. > > Diskutim te mbare! :) > > - Sandri > > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 Aulona97 at aol.com wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > JU LUTEM SHUME ME C'REGJISTRONI NGA KJO FAQE PASI NUK KISHTE NDONJE > INTERES > > TE VECANTE NE DOBI TE SHQIPERISE,DHE BASHKIMIT KOMBETAR SHQIPETAR.TE ME > FALNI > > PER VREJTJEN POR DUHET TE ELIMINONI DISA CILIMIJ NGA KJO FAQE QE E KTHEJNE > > > KETE WEB NE NJE LODER SHQIPTARE ALLA ALBANIAN CHAT ROOMS. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From besnik at alb-net.com Thu Jan 20 12:35:56 2000 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:35:56 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 In-Reply-To: <20000120094451.86412.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Tung Uk, me ra ne sy emertimi (Shoqeria Kulturoro-Artistike), por edhe me teper fakti se SHKA-ja kerkon instrumente nga shteti (komuna e Istogut). Ndoshta eshte vetem inercioni nga e kaluara, por une shpesh pyetem se sa do te jene ne gjendje shqiptaret e Kosoves te ikin nga forma e organizimit shoqeroro-politik te trasheguar nga socializmi jugosllav -- sistem jo "i imponuar" (del se po te mos ishte ky "imponim", shqiptaret do te ishin organizuar ndryshe, e po shihet qarte, edhe sot kur askush nuk "imponon", se nuk ka alternative te forte, perkunder klithmave per demokraci, ekonomi te tregut, te drejta te njeriut etj.). Pajtohem me ty se Kosoves i nevojitet nje force e djathte, por fatkeqsisht ne Kosove nuk ekziston asnje force e djathte, "te djathte" ne kuptimin qe kjo ka ne traditen perendimore. >Per krijimin e sa me shume SHKA-ve dhe pse jo edhe grupeve te striptizit >erotik ne Kosove. Natyrisht, edhe grupet e striptizit erotik le te jene te organizuara me keshill te punetoreve, ndersa breket per femrat (apo mashkujt) striptizere le t'i kerkojne nga organet perkatese komunale (besoj se duhet te krijohet nje repart i posacem i Ministrise se Kultures per kete pune). Shpresoj se tash kupton ku e kisha fjalen. Te fala, Besniku From gugja at hotmail.com Thu Jan 20 12:54:34 2000 From: gugja at hotmail.com (ARIANIT MATOSHI) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:54:34 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000120175434.92709.qmail@hotmail.com> Aulona me te then te drejten.....gjithe Kosovaret e kan dashur shqiperine dhe shumica ende e dojne dheune sepse eshte nje dhe i njejte me dheune e Kosoves,por ne nuk i duame Greket ne ate toke,dhe per ate arsye askushe nuk deshirone te fole per Shqiperi. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From pilika at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 13:07:09 2000 From: pilika at yahoo.com (Asti Pilika) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 10:07:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000120180709.29374.qmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> A shpjegohesh pak me qarte? Nga se te ka mbetur hatri? --- ARIANIT MATOSHI wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Aulona me te then te drejten.....gjithe > Kosovaret e kan dashur > shqiperine dhe shumica ende e dojne dheune sepse > eshte nje dhe i njejte me > dheune e Kosoves,por ne nuk i duame Greket ne ate > toke,dhe > per ate arsye askushe nuk deshirone te fole per > Shqiperi. > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: > Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From grugova at rumms.uni-mannheim.de Thu Jan 20 13:52:25 2000 From: grugova at rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Gezim RUGOVA) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:52:25 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 References: <20000120121425.97093.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <38875968.DA920E57@rumms.uni-mannheim.de> Tung, Uk per ta mbyll kete teme po shkruaj per fund: Uk Lushi schrieb: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > >I nderuari z.Uk > > > >Ai nuk eshte ndonje qytet diku ne R. e Kosoves por eshte qyteti qe une e > >shkruaj > >me shkronja te medha pasi qe eshte vendlindja ime. > > Sidoqofte cdo vendbanim eshte dikund dhe tautologjikisht cdo vendlindje > poashtu. :) > Tautologjikishte?!? E di qe nga gjimnazi qe je matematicient i flaket. Por kam shume probleme me semantiken e fjalive te tua. Lexoji edhe vete fjalit tua dhe do te bindesh! > > I dashuri Gezim, > me duhet te bej nje diskursion krejt te shkurter dhe per mua kjo ceshtje > shte e mbyllur. > Une as qe desha te hap kurrefare diskusioni, te thashe edhe ne e-mailin e fundit dhe po e potencoi edhe nje here se nuk kam aspak kohe per polemika apo per zgjerime te cfardo natyre. Edhe une po te shkruaj sot dhe te lutem as mos u mundo te vazhdosh me polemika se nuk do te pergjigjem me. > > E para: > > deshiruam ne ose jo tradita eshte nje fundament qe i keq o i mire se vlen te > rrenohet, por nuk e perjashtoj se duhet te renovohet, plotesohet, > pershatatet etj. Njerzit duhet te bejne aktivitete... Nuk eshte forma por > eshte permbajtja ajo qe i perckaton gjerat. Se cfare jane ngjyrat e logove > te gazetave dhe emrat e organizatave qofte edhe kulturore nuk e percaktojne > nje vend si demokratik, komunist apo fetar. > Pra sipas tezes tende, edhe nese Kosova quhet Serbi nuk ka lidhje! O Uk Lushi, kur te bie guri mbi koke eshte vone te mbrohesh atehere duhet te piskasesh qe tia lehtesosh vehtes dhimbet e perpara duhet ti ngrehesh duart e te mbrohesh. Une edhe ne pergjigje Besnikut i shkrova, se ky eshte vetem fillimi e ti zoteri mbulon thelbin e nje gjeje shume te rendesishme me fraza qe tingellojne aq bukur, po mendojne ne dy-tri fjalit e para tuat me te cilat edhe pajtohem. > > Sa i perket vendgjendjes sone ajo eshte poashtu relative ngase une isha duke > folur per koncepte qe jane universale- emertimi e jo programi i ketyre > shoqerive... > Te kisha lutur te ma shpjegosh semantikishte kete fjali por kjo eshte maili im i fundit ne kete teme keshtu qe nje shpjegim i tille eshte i pavlefshem. > e dyta; > > personalisht mendoj se vetm nje force e djathte mund ta ndryshoje Kosoven. > me vjen mire qe e the "personalishte". > Vetem nje force e djathte, demokratike dhe kombtare (po po kombetare edhepse > shume shqiptare jane bere multikulti- por preki SHBA-te n interesa nacionale > se t kallxoj) mund te beje rindertimin e infrastruktures dhe institucioneve > qe mgjth. duhet te trashegohen nga e kaluara dhe te mesohet te ndahen sipas > parimit te meritokracise. Dhe pse e them kete? Jo sepse mendoj se e majta > nuk e pasuron dhe komplementon jeten plurale porse se ajo ne Kosove eshte > degjenerike, klanore dhe nuk ka arritur te afiliohet ne nje force me program > shtetdrejtues por ka mbetur ose ne prapaskena, posacerisht ish strukturat > partiake gjate socializmit jugosllav dhe ne rruge djemte naive qe kane qene > te indoktrinuar me ideologji ne vend se me dije. > Ku eshte mendimi i juaj, per te dhene nje pergjigje ne kete pasus kaq konkret me duhet shume vend edhe me shuem kohe. Pasi nuk e kam as te paren e as te dyten, po shtoj se ky eshte mendimi i juaj dhe se te ketij mendimi nuk jane shume njerez. Etiketimi i njerezve paushall ka qene dhe mbetet veti qe e kemi ne gjak ne shqiptaret pa marre parasysh se jetojme me vite te tera neper Evropa e Amerika. > > dhe e treta > > eshte e vertete se shkembimi i mendimeve per tema te ketilla meriton me > shume kohe dhe hapesire, mirepo ky eshte funksioni i listave te diskutimeve > te komunikojme me njerei tjetrin. > Okay, je i mireseardhur ka aq shuem tema per te cilat mund te bisedojme (ne te ardhmen e afert...-)))))) > > Une nuk munda te mos reagoja sepse per mua SHKA-te kane qene nje gur i forte > ne ndertesen e ruajtjes se vetedijes nacionale ne Kosove. > > Te fala dhe suksese ne provime. Mos harro se jeta eshte e mbusur me provime > dhe nuk je duke pasur per here te pare provime!:) > > U. Lushi > Okay axha Uk. Po a nuk je ti ai Uk Isufaj i gjenerates sime, pas fjalive te mesiperme ("Jeta eshte plot provime..") po mendoj se kam pune me fare plaku qe ka 100 vjet jete pas vehtes. Jete te gjate sa malet o axha Uk! Persh. Gezimi From albert_hyseni at hotmail.com Fri Jan 21 09:17:07 2000 From: albert_hyseni at hotmail.com (Albert Hyseni) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 06:17:07 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gjermania dhe riatdhesimi i shqipëtarëve Message-ID: <20000121141707.47564.qmail@hotmail.com> Poget qi Gjermania po dojka me ja nise mei kthy shqip?tar?t. E marrur prej QIK-ut pa leje. Gjermania gjat? k?tij viti fillon riatdhesimin e 180 mij? qytetar? nga Kosova Prishtin?, 20 janar (QIK) - Gjermania gjat? k?tij viti fillon riatdhesimin e refugjat?ve shqiptar? nga Kosova. N? muajt e par? pas mbarimit t? dimrit do t? nis? kthimi i organizuar n? mas? t? shqiptar?ve t? Kosov?s, t? cil?t kan? leje q?ndrimi t? kufizuar n? Gjermani, vun? n? dukje politikan? t? landeve. Kjo mas? i pret rreth 180 mij? qytetar? nga Kosova q? jetojn? aktualisht n? k?t? vend. Dit? m? par? u nis drejt Kosov?s kontigjenti i par? me 88 refugjat? shqiptar? t? cil?t u kthyen n? vendlindje n?p?rmjet Maqedonis?. Kthimi i djesh?m u shoq?rua me disa probleme sepse p?r shkak t? mjegull?s avioni nuk mundi t? ulej n? aeroportin e Prishtin?s. Nj? bashk?pun?tor i organizat?s nd?rkomb?tare t? emigracionit, vuri n? dukje se refugjat?t jan? kthyer vullnetarisht. Nisur nga situata problematike n? Kosov? p?r shkak t? mungesave t? m?dha t? furnizimit me energji elektrike dhe uj? t? pijsh?m, ende ka diskutime lidhur me kthimin e tyre. P?r k?t? arsye landi i Berlinit ka deklaruar se do t? nis? kthimin e organizuar t? refugjat?ve n? pranver? t? k?tij viti. Nd?rkaq, sipas Sekretariatit t? Lart? t? OKB-s? p?r Refugjat?t riatdhesimi ?sht? megjithat? i mundsh?m n? Kosov?, por sipas k?tij komesariati ?sht? e r?nd?sishme q? s? pari t? garantohet nj? ndihm? zem?rgjer? p?r rind?rtimin e Kosov?s. K?shtu ka deklaruar z?dh?n?si i k?saj organizate n? Prishtin?, z.Peter Kesler. Me nderime, Alberti ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From juniku at hotmail.com Fri Jan 21 11:53:35 2000 From: juniku at hotmail.com (Uk Lushi) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:53:35 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 15 Message-ID: <20000121165335.92274.qmail@hotmail.com> I dashuri Gezim, megjithate me duhet te reagoj edhe njehere per shkak te nivelit te letres tende dhe te bej te qarte se reagimi yt eshte personal dhe s' ka te beje as 0.0001% me temen e diskutimit. Arsyet per kete mund ti dish vetem ti. > > >I nderuari z.Uk > > > > > >Ai nuk eshte ndonje qytet diku ne R. e Kosoves por eshte qyteti qe une >e > > >shkruaj > > >me shkronja te medha pasi qe eshte vendlindja ime. > > > > Sidoqofte cdo vendbanim eshte dikund dhe tautologjikisht cdo vendlindje > > poashtu. :) S' di cka eshte e paqarte ketu? Pra nese vendlindjet jane poashtu vendbanime atehere logjikisht edhe ato jane dikund. Do te te rekomandoja te rikujtosh ose studiosh edhe njehere teorine e gjykimeve dhe bashkesive. Fjalia ne fjale qe ti aq fanatikisht mundohesh te qesesh ne sfondin e matematikes me se pakut ka te beje me matematiken. Ajo eshte nje konkluzion logjik dhe duket kjo te mungon ty me se shumti. Une s' kam faj per parametrat qe kane te bejne me ty. Ate ceshtje duhet ta zgjedhesh vete. > > > >Tautologjikishte?!? E di qe nga gjimnazi qe je matematicient i flaket. Por >kam >shume probleme me semantiken e fjalive te tua. Lexoji edhe vete fjalit tua >dhe >do te bindesh! > > > > > > I dashuri Gezim, > > me duhet te bej nje diskursion krejt te shkurter dhe per mua kjo ceshtje > > shte e mbyllur. > > > >Une as qe desha te hap kurrefare diskusioni, te thashe edhe ne e-mailin e >fundit >dhe po e potencoi edhe nje here se nuk kam aspak kohe per polemika apo per >zgjerime te cfardo natyre. Edhe une po te shkruaj sot dhe te lutem as mos u >mundo te vazhdosh me polemika se nuk do te pergjigjem me. Diskusionin e ke hapur ti dhe jo une. Une reagoj ne nje reagim tendin qe permban reflekse sarkastike dhe pse jo edhe politike pa bazament te fakteve. > > > > > E para: > > > > deshiruam ne ose jo tradita eshte nje fundament qe i keq o i mire se >vlen te > > rrenohet, por nuk e perjashtoj se duhet te renovohet, plotesohet, > > pershatatet etj. Njerzit duhet te bejne aktivitete... Nuk eshte forma >por > > eshte permbajtja ajo qe i perckaton gjerat. Se cfare jane ngjyrat e >logove > > te gazetave dhe emrat e organizatave qofte edhe kulturore nuk e >percaktojne > > nje vend si demokratik, komunist apo fetar. > > > >Pra sipas tezes tende, edhe nese Kosova quhet Serbi nuk ka lidhje! O Uk >Lushi, >kur te bie guri mbi koke eshte vone te mbrohesh atehere duhet te piskasesh >qe >tia lehtesosh vehtes dhimbet e perpara duhet ti ngrehesh duart e te >mbrohesh. Per mua Kosova nuk eshte quajtur, nuk quhet dhe nuk do te quhet kurre Serbi. Nese per ty tradita do te thote percaktim juridik atehere dicka eshte gabim me trurin dhe konceptet universale te pranuara per traditen, aq me teper qe une isha duke folur per traditen kulturore shqiptare. S' di ku sheh ti Serbi ketu? Dhe vetem sa per ta permendur une ate Serbi (shiko www.prishtina.com/kronikelufte1 kam shkuar ne Kosove ta ndjek edhe me pushke. Ti nuk e di cfare ke bere por perseri nuk bej kurrfare sypozimi sepse per mua cdo shqiptar e ka te drejten e vet te beje ose t mos beje asgje per vendin, kombin apo vendlindjen. Sidoqofte dishepuj tu politike kane qene ne Beograd ato dite kur une isha neper malet e Kosoves nen fershellimen e plumbave te serbeve. >Une edhe ne pergjigje Besnikut i shkrova, se ky eshte vetem fillimi e ti >zoteri >mbulon thelbin e nje gjeje shume te rendesishme me fraza qe tingellojne aq >bukur, po mendojne ne dy-tri fjalit e para tuat me te cilat edhe pajtohem. > > > > > Sa i perket vendgjendjes sone ajo eshte poashtu relative ngase une isha >duke > > folur per koncepte qe jane universale- emertimi e jo programi i ketyre > > shoqerive... > > > >Te kisha lutur te ma shpjegosh semantikishte kete fjali por kjo eshte maili >im i >fundit ne kete teme keshtu qe nje shpjegim i tille eshte i pavlefshem. > > > e dyta; > > > > personalisht mendoj se vetm nje force e djathte mund ta ndryshoje >Kosoven. > > > >me vjen mire qe e the "personalishte". > > > Vetem nje force e djathte, demokratike dhe kombtare (po po kombetare >edhepse > > shume shqiptare jane bere multikulti- por preki SHBA-te n interesa >nacionale > > se t kallxoj) mund te beje rindertimin e infrastruktures dhe >institucioneve > > qe mgjth. duhet te trashegohen nga e kaluara dhe te mesohet te ndahen >sipas > > parimit te meritokracise. Dhe pse e them kete? Jo sepse mendoj se e >majta > > nuk e pasuron dhe komplementon jeten plurale porse se ajo ne Kosove >eshte > > degjenerike, klanore dhe nuk ka arritur te afiliohet ne nje force me >program > > shtetdrejtues por ka mbetur ose ne prapaskena, posacerisht ish >strukturat > > partiake gjate socializmit jugosllav dhe ne rruge djemte naive qe kane >qene > > te indoktrinuar me ideologji ne vend se me dije. > > > >Ku eshte mendimi i juaj, per te dhene nje pergjigje ne kete pasus kaq >konkret me >duhet shume vend edhe me shuem kohe. Pasi nuk e kam as te paren e as te >dyten, >po shtoj se ky eshte mendimi i juaj dhe se te ketij mendimi nuk jane shume >njerez. Etiketimi i njerezve paushall ka qene dhe mbetet veti qe e kemi ne >gjak >ne shqiptaret pa marre parasysh se jetojme me vite te tera neper Evropa e >Amerika. Pikerisht kete e ben ti. Une isha duke folur per kulture dhe ceshtje te sistemeve politike, ti e fut serbine ne loje. Cka dreqin ka Serbia te beje me SHKA- te e Istogut? > > > > > dhe e treta > > > > eshte e vertete se shkembimi i mendimeve per tema te ketilla meriton me > > shume kohe dhe hapesire, mirepo ky eshte funksioni i listave te >diskutimeve > > te komunikojme me njerei tjetrin. > > > >Okay, je i mireseardhur ka aq shuem tema per te cilat mund te bisedojme (ne >te >ardhmen e afert...-)))))) > > > > > Une nuk munda te mos reagoja sepse per mua SHKA-te kane qene nje gur i >forte > > ne ndertesen e ruajtjes se vetedijes nacionale ne Kosove. > > > > Te fala dhe suksese ne provime. Mos harro se jeta eshte e mbusur me >provime > > dhe nuk je duke pasur per here te pare provime!:) > > > > U. Lushi > > > >Okay axha Uk. Po a nuk je ti ai Uk Isufaj i gjenerates sime, pas fjalive te >mesiperme ("Jeta eshte plot provime..") po mendoj se kam pune me fare plaku >qe >ka 100 vjet jete pas vehtes. Jete te gjate sa malet o axha Uk! Ok o Gezim plaku me shall si dishepulli yt qe erdh nag Italia me ten te te rreziturit neper Itali permse Beogradit... > >Persh. >Gezimi > \ Perseri je viktime e vetvetes. Lexo e mailin tim me mire. Si duket jo vetem qe te mungon kulture logjikimi por edhe leximi. Mesohu te lexosh dhe t' mos keqinterpretosh me qellime te poshtra. Merre veten me t mire dhe distancohu nga gjera qe jane te kaluara. Per ceshtje te politokracise ne Kosove do te te rekomandoja nje artikull te Veton Surroit ne KLAN te javes se parafundit. Ai shume mire vjen ne nje perfundim te kaosit ne skenen politike te Kosoves kur thote se shkurt etrup perfaqesusesit tone ne vend se te mmerren me ndryshimin e situates se jeteses ende merren me deklarimet demagogjike per liri pavarsi etj. Dhe thote ai me poshte jo se nuk duan por sepse s 'dine. Mbase mu si ti, ndoshta s ke faj sepse nuk din. Dhe aty une te kuptoj. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From gugja at hotmail.com Fri Jan 21 15:07:18 2000 From: gugja at hotmail.com (ARIANIT MATOSHI) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 20:07:18 GMT Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <20000121200718.25908.qmail@hotmail.com> Disa pyetje per te gjithe. Per cfare arsye Gjermania eshte duke i kthyer shqipetaret ne Kosove 1-Per arsye qe i ka majte teper? 2-Per arsye qe e kan detyru shtetin Gjermon me i kthy? (disa prej tyre e kan respektu ligjin shume). 3-A mendoni se te gjithe ata qe jane marre me sende te kqija i kthen apo pa marre parasysh se kush cka ka bo ne ate vend? 4-Per barabd qe i kthen cka mendoni...ma mire kishte qen me i lone neper burgje a me i kthy ne Kosove? (se pak jon atje vec edhe keta) Ju pershendes te gjithve. Nga Arianiti ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From eshref at januzaj.de Fri Jan 21 16:29:44 2000 From: eshref at januzaj.de (Mali) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:29:44 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <3888CFC8.2E68E450@januzaj.de> Ju pershendes, ARIANIT MATOSHI wrote: > Disa pyetje per te gjithe. > Per cfare arsye Gjermania eshte duke i kthyer shqipetaret ne > Kosove > 1-Per arsye qe i ka majte teper? > 2-Per arsye qe e kan detyru shtetin Gjermon me i kthy? (disa prej > tyre e kan respektu ligjin shume). > 3-A mendoni se te gjithe ata qe jane marre me sende te kqija i > kthen apo pa marre parasysh se kush cka ka bo ne ate vend? > 4-Per barabd qe i kthen cka mendoni...ma mire kishte qen me i lone > neper burgje a me i kthy ne Kosove? (se pak jon atje vec edhe keta) per arsye se shumica dermuese deshirojne te kthehen ne atdhene e tyre, prej nga u detyruan(!) te largohen gjate ketyre 10 vjeteve te fundit. Po ashtu, nuk ka me baze juridike per te qendruar ne Gjermani. Arsyeja e te perndjekurit politik apo ikjes nga lufta nuk vlene me. Ne Gjermani do te mund mbesin vetem ata qe e kan te rregulluar lejen e qendrimit - nese deshirojne te mbesin. Te tjeret do te kthehen. Perqindja e 'barabeve' shqiptar ne Gjermani nuk eshte e madhe, perkunder bujes se madhe qe i eshte bere ne mjetet e informimit publik gjerman dhe/ose shqiptar. Fundja, perspektiva e popullit shqiptare eshte ne atdhe e jo rrugeve te botes. Mbetshi me te mira, Eshrefi -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Eshref Januzaj ** Munich University of Technology ** | | ** Department of Computer Science ** | | ** Arcisstr.21, Munich - Germany ** | | | | E-Mail : januzaj at informatik.tu-muenchen.de | | WWW : http://www.in.tum.de/~januzaj/ | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Sat Jan 22 12:21:37 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Sat Jan 22 12:21:37 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] DM Message-ID: <20000122172105.26865.qmail@hotmail.com> I dashuri Arianit Matoshi... Askend nuk e ka marre malli per ti patur Shqiptaret ne oborr te vet.. Gjermania me ligjin e saj per migracion ka nderruar plotsisht qendrim ndaj te gjithe refugjatve dhe emigrantve... Nuk i nevojitet as force puntore e as shtim i natalitetit.... A ne baze te analizave per nje te ardhme to Kosoves...duhet te jete 25% e popullsise jashte Kosoves sepse ka natalitet shume te madhe, ndersa opcionet per punesim dhe per pamvarsim individual ekonomik ne ate province jane aq te veshtira dhe do veshtersohen edhe me shume sa qe shume lehte do te na nevojitet nje njeri si B.Horvat... .......Me respekt,,,,Ardi//// ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From zabeli at gmx.de Sun Jan 23 19:34:07 2000 From: zabeli at gmx.de (Shyq Zabeli) Date: Sun Jan 23 19:34:07 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] DM References: <20000122172105.26865.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <13749.948674041@www12.gmx.net> ardi, te lutem sqaroma shkurtimisht (normalisht nese ke kohe) rendesine e nje b. horvati te ne, pasi qe ate e njoh vetem si emer te madh, por se njoh fare permbajtjen e veprave te tij? te pershendes, shyqa -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net From etrit at alb-net.com Sun Jan 23 20:20:03 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sun Jan 23 20:20:03 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Humourous situation in Prishtina (fwd) Message-ID: http://www.snafu.de/~ulisses/balkan/sunflowers/archive/diary/20000120.html Pristina Diary 20 January 2000 Mirdita, The last days we have been a lot with the electricity situation, but when this message reach you we have been able to send Email for the first time directly from our office in Pristina without going to the expensive Internet centre on Dragodon. We finally were able to hook up our computer via the normal telephone lines with on computer in Beograd, through which this message is now send out. Our translators here in Pristina knew some people who still had some paid hours of internet use on the PTT computer in Serbia, which they used after the ZAMIR network in Serbia broke down. Here in Pristina ZAMIR was represented by the local host ZANA-PR which was hooked up with ZAMIR-BG (beograd) and from there send via BIONIC in Germany Email messages around the world. After the peace agreement in Dayton in 1995 this transnational system for NGO's slowly broke down and by now the only host which is still working is the one in Croatia. In Serbia, so also in Kosov@ the role was taken over by the local internetworks. And till our big surprise the entrance number from the Serbian PTT internetwork still is active here in Pristina. This network works in a way that you have to buy from the Serbian PTT internet hours in before hand, which you than can use up to your account is empty. Since there is no Serbian PTT office working anymore in Kosov@ it is next to impossible to buy this access hours. Still on the black market, or call it the market of contacts of friends you are some times able to buy internet hours from people. But most people who use this official PTT network don't have much contacts in Serbia. That's why a lot of local youngsters are very interested if I didn't had any friends in Serbia which could buy those hours for us, since the price for those hours here on the black market is a couple of times higher than in Serbia. Like the telephonelines the system in itself is not working as perfect as the much more expensive internet system in Pristina which work by satellite. You need to bring a lot of patience with you to use it here from Pristina. Sending out a message like this side or reading your Email means that you have to be used to a system which is completely overloaded and throws you out at almost each step you need to do to send or receive a message. But more important you need to have a situation during which your electricity system is not dropping down all the time. In many ways I must admit that I like this almost stone edge time working with computer better than the more modern and expensive systems via radio and satellite connections. It is so simple if you have the money to build up the most advantage communication network via the internet. But somehow I like to use the same systems as the local people use. For one or another reason I don't like this elite situation that the foreigners can do something what the local can 't. I, or rather we, are already in the extreme situation that we can leave the country when ever we want. We as foreigners normally have the better cars, the better telephone lines, the electric generator, the working radio' s and mobile phones, eat in the better restaurants, sleep in the hotels which have heating and electricity. The last days however the local people have help me how you organise that all via the way which it is normal in this part of the world. If you want your mobile phones working you have to find a card of a local telephone network, which means in Pristina that you are using MOBTEL, the Serbian mobile telephone system. If you use a foreign mobile telephone, like I was using before a German one, it also works with MOBTEL, but you have to pay about 4 times more per minute. By the way working with MOBTEL in Pristina and only in parts of Pristina it don't means working like working all the time. Or working like you dial a number at you get contact, it means more like dialling 20 times a number and maybe you get through. But UNMIK has promised that this will all change in the coming month. Proudly the king of Kosov@, the head of UNMIK, Mr. Kouchner has proudly announced that with the beginning of next month, starting in Pristina, Kosov@ get an own mobile telephone system. And than everything will be better and cheaper, and available in the normal shops. The mobile phone company which got the monopoly is of course a French one, Alcatel. The Kosovarians themselves wanted a German company, Siemens. And UNMIK went even so far to put the head of the Kosovarian PTT, who was in favour of Siemens on non active to push the deal with Alcatel through. Anyway when the new mobile network get started here in Pristina and later in the rest of Kosov@ a big part of the communication will become better, let's hope. How much better is always relative. Yesterday and today UNMIK also announced that the electricity situation will get better, and indeed today we had already almost 10 hours of electricity in a row. The result was that almost everybody work all through the night. During the last weeks people have changed their habits in a way that they start working as soon as there is electricity, washing, cooking, vacuum cleaning and working (playing) with their computers, even when it is in the middle of the night. Just to make as much effective use from the hours that the electricity is on. But last night the electricity stayed on almost the whole night. And that was surprising for everybody, you just kept on going in with the knowledge in mind that it could of any moment, but it didn't. Most surprising was the fact that when you finely went to bed because you were to tired to go on and woke up the next morning the electricity was still on. That really blow my mind this morning, I really am starting to believe that they finally fixed it. Luckily after a few hours it went of again, otherwise the world wasn't as we knew it. Later today it came back on and it seems that we are heading for a new record now. Talking about records, I think that the UNMIK Police (the coca cola police) should get a special announcement in the world book of records. Namely for the police who have giving out the most parking tickets to cars who don't even have numberplates. Since a few weeks the UNMIK Police has started to give parking tickets to false parked cars. Which is a next to impossible job since almost all the cars are wrongly parked. And a very hopeless job also since hardly any car has a numberplate, or a false one, or a self made one or what ever. It is in any way impossible to trace the owners of those cars back, since hardly any is registrated. So if you get a parking ticket you just throw it away since the police only know in their records that a red Volvo was parked wrong, but not which car it was and to whom it belongs. And nobody will go to the UNMIK police station to pay their ticket just like that, like in the rest of the world only the fear that they trace you back is mostly the reason for paying your tickets and that fear is not here. This on the other side has as secondary effect that lot's of UNMIK police agents from abroad are really getting the feeling that they are doing a total idiotic job around here. If they are send out in the morning by their chiefs to write out parking ticket they are not stupid, they know that it is useless. So the already weak UNMIK police, which is still after 7 months not on half of the strength they should be, which is by the way even when they reach the 3155 agents which they are allowed to deploy not half of the strength they should be to make a real impact as some specialists say, is now loosing agents by the day. Especially after the Christmas holidays a lot of the agents didn't return back to Kosov@, since they really were disappointed by the work they had to do here. Feeling themselves the clowns in the circus here and laughed at by the local population. And not only UNMIK police is not coming back, but also a lot of other NGO's have decided to leave Kosov at . Especially those who are doing shelter. According to UNHCR the emergency shelter programme is almost finished now and that's is what you hear from lot's of shelter NGO's, the job is done. Every family which wanted has at least one warm room now, at least that is what is said. That they have a warm room in a house which is still totally destroyed or which is not theirs or even that they missed a lot of houses in the villages seems to be not changing the situation. The job is finished of to other places in the world. The big question which they leave behind is what will happen with all those destroyed houses and with all those houses which have an emergency roofing from thin plastic now. Who will be there this summer and next winter to help to repair the rest of the house and to put a real roof on the house or even to put a roof at the house at all, or even who rebuild a house out the pile of stones. Yes it is really noticeable when you walk through burned Peja and see still all those destroyed houses that the job is done. They just made a start is a better thing to say. Yes I know that this is all criticism. Yes I know that I should not blame everything on the international organisations and really I would love to be positive about them, to write that everything they do is effective and well co-ordinated. That every coins of humanitarian aid spend in this province is spend rightly and that the effect is enormous. But yes they make it so easy to be critical about them. Thinking about that UNMIK police actions it is hard not to make jokes about it. Especially when you see a scenery as I saw this afternoon. An UNMIK police agent was writing out a parking ticket, the owner came took the ticket from the front window, throw it away and went into his shop again. The same UNMIK police agent wrote another ticket, the owner came out again, did the same thing and it all started all over. The whole scenery repeated itself 5 times and than the ticket bloc of the police agent seemed to be full and he went back to his car and drove off. His goal, 100 or so parking tickets for the day was done. On such a moment you really think if the UN hasn't got anything better in mind to get police from the other side of the globe over here and pay them just to make a fool out of themselves. By the way back to the electricity, when it came back on this afternoon you suddenly heard a big applause every where around in this area. After the success of last evening and night suddenly everybody started to believe that we would have another evening with electricity today and so hundreds of them went to the videotheek to rent some video, for the first time in weeks the electricity was on long enough to see a film to the end. So when it went off you hear this big "SHIT" (in Albanian) from every window. Disappointment by everybody, again a long cold evening by candle light (wonder how many kids will be born in a couple of months ago). So you hear this big sound of relieve when the electricity went on again. People were so happy at last something else to do. I know that lot's of people around the world would like to have an evening without TV and so on, but when it is forced up to you it is something different. Especially when you are not somewhere outside in the wilderness in a nice blockhouse with a nice warm burning open fire. But when you are in a stone cold apartment building in the middle of a town and you hear the generator from the family three levels down running knowing that they have it warm and have everything running and you only have the noise from it, it starts to be at least a bit annoying after some weeks. Living in houses which are build for the electric age and doing that without electricity is not as easy as you think. It really gets on you. Since after all that time you approximately have read every book you always wanted to read and done everything you always wanted to do, and in most cases have said everything you always wanted to say. OK one positive thing. Since a week Kosov@ has 11 snowplows, which will liberate the street in the country from snow and ice (and I can tell you the roads are full of it). They got them from the European Union. In fact 9 of them are really for the population of Kosov@, the other 2 will be used to keep the airport open (when it is not foggy). It will take some days before they will be put in action, since the drivers first have to learn to use them, but then... You see how easy it is to make even from a positive thing a joke. Mirupafsim, Wam :-) ******************************************************************** Wiederaufbau Kosov@ - Reconstruction Kosov@ - Rindkrtimi i Kosov at s http://www.osnabrueck.netsurf.de:8080/~dbein/wiederaufbau.htm ******************************************************************** +---------------------------------------------------+ | Wolfgang Plarre | | Dillinger Str. 41, D-86637 Wertingen, Germany | | E-mail: wplarre at bndlg.de w.plarre at kosova.nu | | Tel: +49-8272-98974 Fax: +49-8272-98975 | | Internet: http://www.bndlg.de/~wplarre | +---------------------------------------------------+ From etrit at alb-net.com Sun Jan 23 20:34:09 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sun Jan 23 20:34:09 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Excerpts from a Prishtina Diary, January 21st, 2000 Message-ID: I am posting an excerpt from these diaries that a foreigner is keeping in Prishtina. For the full atricle can be found at: http://www.snafu.de/~ulisses/balkan/sunflowers/archive/diary/20000121.html Now something rather positive, we had 21 hours of electricity in one run today, a new record for Kosov at . I know this because Bleron has an electric alarm clock at home, which is always starting at 00.000 hours when the electricity goes down and runs as long as the next power break. So live is getting bit more normal around here. But god ( the UN) knows how long this will be going on. Together with the import of electricity and that what Kosov@ produces itself we are now reaching 600 megawatt per day (almost 80% what is needed). I must admit that this situation change the situation in the town (Pristina). Suddenly you see on every balcony in the area clothes drying. The mothers in the town had finally after weeks the possibility to clean the clothes of their family. And that is a lot. In this moment in time Pristina and the rest of Kosov@ are white of snow. The children are playing outside, since it are holidays for almost all the schools in the region- The temperature in most of schools became under the level that it is impossible to teach. So suddenly the whole town is full with drying washes. Remember that I am writing at this moment from Pristina, a town which is practically un-damaged, so most people have still washing machines at home. From etrit at alb-net.com Sun Jan 23 20:47:30 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sun Jan 23 20:47:30 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Electricity Bills Message-ID: These diaries are pretty funny. Aparently the guy who writes them is working for an NGO, he's a Dutch guy, and the following is how he sees the situation. Check the whole web site, it's pretty informative: http://www.snafu.de/~ulisses/balkan/sunflowers/ In Gjakova and also in Pristina we received already bills for the electricity we supposed to have used. In Gjakova, were the electricity is up not more than half an hour per day we received a bill for November (during which the electricity also wasn't on every day) which is over 150 Dm. Trying to figure out why we got such a high bill for something with wasn't deliver some officials of UNMIK told me that the last months lots of bills were deliver which weren't real, that some people are trying to make money out of the bad administration situation which is here at this moment in time. Anyway we had a big laugh about it that we had to pay for something we don't receive. And more over it don't improve the trustworthiness of the UNMIK administration. Some positive things are however have to be said. During the last weeks UNMIK was able to make agreements with Serbia, Albania, Macedonia and Greece to import electricity. What is already taking place at the time. I wonder by the way how countries as Serbia and Albania are able to sell electricity, especially after the experience I made in Albania I am rather surprised that the produce so much that they have something to export. Just a few months ago it became know than Albania wasn't even producing the half from it's own needs, but it seems that hard currency can change a lot. Also the fact that Kosov@, or rather the UNMIK is importing electricity from Serbia is a bit surprising. As from what I have heard the electricity system in Serbia was heavily destroyed by the NATO and it is also winter there, so the working centrals are very in needed for the own Serbian population. Beside that the fact that UNMIK is paying Serbia for electricity is not really what a lot of people here in Kosov@ want to hear. Although still a lot of products from Serbia are sold here in Kosov@ and not only products which were here already from before, but also imports from the last months, not many Kosovarians are happy that money from Kosov@ goes to Serbia. By the way when I asked a bit around what people were thinking here about the fact that so many products are coming out of a country, which they most of the time wish in words on the other side of the planet, I heard that they had to admit most of those products are just good and better than what they can get elsewhere. I have heard this kind of stories so often in this area, time after time it surprise me, and at the same moment it makes me realise again how close this society use to be some years ago. From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Mon Jan 24 09:01:29 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Mon Jan 24 09:01:29 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] OK Message-ID: <20000124140057.72791.qmail@hotmail.com> Shyq...B.Horvati....ka qene edhe eshte nje nder Ekonomistet me te njohur...duhet ta ceki se sa per Evrope ai eshte ne top5... Veprat e tija jane te shumta neper Brazil, Argjentine dhe neper shtetet te cilat kane inflacion drastik. Per arsye te MK...Valutes momentale ne Kosove...mund te ngrihet inflacioni...perndryshe nuk ka zgjidhje tjeter. faktikisht...ai ka pas dashte ta marr sistemin Ekonomik te ish-YU dhe ta gjej solucionin per 6 muaj...por nenkuptohet...se Serbet nuk kan dashur qe nje Kroat tu'a marre sistemin ekonomik te shtetit te cilin e paramendonin si prone private... Shyq...ishalla me ke kuptu...se spo di cka te shtoj me shume... Ciao...Ardi... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Mon Jan 24 10:22:36 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Mon Jan 24 10:22:36 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Sandro Pertini......... Message-ID: <20000124152201.99285.qmail@hotmail.com> Kolege.... Po a je a si je...? Japonezi...a i ka punet mire... Shllajfit njehere per mua... Ardi... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From zabeli at gmx.de Mon Jan 24 13:36:52 2000 From: zabeli at gmx.de (Shyq Zabeli) Date: Mon Jan 24 13:36:52 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] OK References: <20000124140057.72791.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <16071.948738965@www7.gmx.net> ardi, faleminderit shume per sqarim. me duket se e kuptova. por sa i perket rritjes se inflacionit ne kosove e kam edhe nje paqartesi (nese te behen keto pyeje te shumeta dhe te mungon koha, te lutem, nuk ke nevoj t'iu pergjigjesh): si mund te rritet ai, kur valuta s'eshte fare e kosoves, dmth. politika valutore (dmth. as couchneri e as rugova e as thaqi nuk munden te shtypin pare) ose tregu i punes mungon fare ne kosove?!? me t'mira, e te falenderoj qysh tash per pergjegjje, shyqa -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net From avukpalaj at hotmail.com Mon Jan 24 14:36:47 2000 From: avukpalaj at hotmail.com (Ardian Vukpalaj) Date: Mon Jan 24 14:36:47 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] OKI DOKI Message-ID: <20000124193252.69482.qmail@hotmail.com> Shyq..... Rast tipik e ke Bosnen.... Kur shteti nuk ka prodhim aspak atehere me se miri eshte te krijohet valuta ne proporcion me arin..Gold..bac... 1 gr...ari 25 dm....e jo p.sh. 1500 dinare...e pas dy jave 5000 din.. ...e pas nje muaji 10000 din....e ne marka gjithmone mbetet 25 Dm.. D.M.TH....nuk ka kapacitet qe ta krijojne valuten e tyre stabile.. Pos ne ngrirjrn e cmimeve ...Ardi...Ciao..Shyq.... P.S. Kerkoj ndjese qe e mora si shembull valuten e Ex-YU.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Jan 24 22:33:28 2000 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon Jan 24 22:33:28 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 16 Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:41:41 +0100 From: Nol Shala - Me 20. Janar 2000 n? pallatin e rinis? n? Prishtin? komandanti i forcave t? KFOR-it n? Kosov? gjenerali Klaus Reinhardt b?ri nj? pritje p?r nder? t? Vitit t? Ri 2000. Me at? rast u shfaq nj? koncert i muzik?s serioze nga interpret?t kosovar Blerim Grubi, Valbona Pula-Petrovci, Venera Mehmedagaj-Kajtazi, Alma Bektashi, Sihana Badivuku dhe Zana Badivuku. Gjenerali Reinhardt me k?t? rast theksoj se krijimi i nj? ambienti t? sigurt p?r t? gjith? njer?zit n? Kosov? ?sht? detyr? prioritare e KFOR-it. - Sht?pia botuese "Wieser" e Klagenfurt-it t? Austris? botoj n? gjuh?n shqipe dhe gjermane poezit t? poetit t? njohur shqiptar? Martin Camaj me titull "Me pendlat e korbit t? bardh?". P?rgatitjen dhe p?rkthimin e k?tij libri iu besua njoh?sit t? shk?lqyesh?m t? vepr?s s? Martin Camaj zotit Hans-Joachim Lanksch. Ky botim ?sht? i paisur me sh?nime t? r?nd?sishme si dhe me tekste tjera p?rcjell?se q? jan? t? domosdoshme p?r prezentimin e plot? t? Martin Camaj. Kjo vep?r z?n? nj? vend t? r?nd?sish?m n? let?rsin? e popujve t? evrop?s juglindore. - Prej 17. - 31. Janar 2000 n? komun?n e Gjilanit mbahet manifestimi tradicional multikulturor "Flaka e Janarit 2000". N? k?t? manifestim do t? zhvillohen nj? s?r? aktivitete n? l?min e artit, let?rsis?, teatrit, muzik?s dhe artit figurativ. Me 17. Janar 2000 n? lokalet e shkoll?s fillore "Zenel Hajdini" n? fshatin Bresallc do t? b?het hapja solemne e manifestimit. Me 25. Janar 2000 n? sht?pin? e kultur?s n? Gjilan do t? shfaqet nj? program-koncert me k?ng? dhe valle burimore. Me 31. Janar 2000 n? sall?n e teatrit prej or?s 12 do t? mbahet ora e madhe letrare. Prej or?s 17 do t? mbahet koncerti i k?ng?ve popullore me t? cil?n edhe do t? mbyllet ky manifestim. - N? Vushtrri me 7. Mars 2000 do t? mbahen "Takimet e poet?ve" njofton kryetari i k?shillit organizativ zoti Sabit Kadriu. Takimet e sivjetme do t? zgjasin dy dit? n? t? cilat pos or?ve letrare do t? shfaqen nj? s?r? aktivitete kulturore. Gjithashtu me k?t? rast do t? shp?rblehen emrat e fituesve t? takimit. N? bashk?punim me shoqat?n e shkrimtar?ve t? Kosov?s do t? mbahet nj? tribun? letrare n? t? cil?n pritet t? vijn? poet?t nga Shqip?rija dhe diaspora. - N? galerin e arteve t? Kosov?s n? Prishtin? jan? duke u b?r? p?rgatitjet e ekspozit?s tradicionale "Bienali XI". N? k?t? ekspozit? do t? prezentohen t? arriturat e dy viteve t? fundit t? artit kosovar. Me k?t? rast njoftohen t? gjith? artist?t q? t'i dor?zojn? punimet e tyre prej 10. - 15. Shkurti 2000 prej or?s 10 - 14 pran galeris?. Punimet k?rkohen t? jen? t? p?rgatitura teknikisht mir?, pasi q? ato do t'i n?nshtrohen komisionit seleksionues. - N? kuadrin e shkoll?s s? mesme t? muzik?s "Lorenc Antoni" n? Prizren do t? hapet shkolla e par? e baletit n? Prizren. Nx?n?sit koh? m? par? kan? qen? t? detyruar t? vijojn? kursin e balet-vall?zimit n? Prishtin? ose jasht? Kosove, por tani do t? realizohet ?ndrra e motshme q? t? m?sojn? pran shkoll?s "Lorenc Antoni". - K?tyre dit?ve filloj n? teatrin komb?tar t? Kosov?s n? Prishtin? v?nia n? sken? t? vepr?s filmike t? njohur t? autorit italian Roberto Benigni "Jeta ?sht? e bukur". Dramaturgjin dhe p?rshtatjen skenike e b?n? Faik Ispahiu. Shfaqja zhvillohet sipas filmit me t? njejtin em?r, i cili n? nominimin e vjetsh?m t? Oskar-it fitoj tri ?mime kryesore. Ngjarja e shfaqjes i p?rngjan shum? p?rjetimeve t? popullit kosovar t? vitit t? fundit. N? rrolet kryesore do t? paraqiten Arnold Morina, Ramadan Malaj, Anisa Ismaili, Ali Ahmeti, Arben Kastrati, Luan Jaha, Bislim Mu?aj, Igballe Qena dhe t? tjer?t. P?r gazet?n e Kulturserver Kosova raporton Beq? Mulliqi nga Prishtina ****************************************************** * the online-community for art+culture http://www.kulturserver.de * ****************************************************** From besnik.grajqevci at bt.com Tue Jan 25 08:02:01 2000 From: besnik.grajqevci at bt.com (besnik.grajqevci at bt.com) Date: Tue Jan 25 08:02:01 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] OK Message-ID: <71DA16F18D32D2119A1D0000F8FE9A94040DF46E@mbtlipnt01.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Inflacioni nuk rritet vetem me shtypjen e parave, kjo vetem e nxiton ritjen e tij. Ne rritjen e inflacionit kryesisht ndikon rritja e qmimeve. Ne rast se Kosova do te kishte valuten e saj rritja e inflacionit (me saktesisht shkalla e inflacionit) do ta demtonte kete valute, pasiqe valuta e Kosoves eshte e kontrolluar nga tjeterkush, ne vleren asaj valute ndikon shkalla e inflacionit e shtetin ne fjale (ne kete rast Gjermanise). Besoj se kjo hedh pak drite ne pyetjen tende. Besniku -----Original Message----- From: Shyq Zabeli [mailto:zabeli at gmx.de] Sent: 24 January 2000 18:36 To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] OK --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l ardi, faleminderit shume per sqarim. me duket se e kuptova. por sa i perket rritjes se inflacionit ne kosove e kam edhe nje paqartesi (nese te behen keto pyeje te shumeta dhe te mungon koha, te lutem, nuk ke nevoj t'iu pergjigjesh): si mund te rritet ai, kur valuta s'eshte fare e kosoves, dmth. politika valutore (dmth. as couchneri e as rugova e as thaqi nuk munden te shtypin pare) ose tregu i punes mungon fare ne kosove?!? me t'mira, e te falenderoj qysh tash per pergjegjje, shyqa -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l From samik at kohaditore.com Tue Jan 25 08:30:13 2000 From: samik at kohaditore.com (samik at kohaditore.com) Date: Tue Jan 25 08:30:13 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] OK References: <71DA16F18D32D2119A1D0000F8FE9A94040DF46E@mbtlipnt01.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: <000701c621be$63859700$fb00330a@koha> Ju lutem, nuk mund te flitet per valute te Kosoves kur nuk kemi prodhim, inflacioni varet nga raporti i prodhimit - pra fuqia prodhuese e nje shteti bashke me te hyrat tjera publike qe krijojne se bashku buxhetin e shtetit dhe pastaj percaktojne edhe shkallen e mesatares se te ardhurave ne sherbimet publike e teposhte - gje qe rezulton pastaj ne standard dhe pastaj edhe ne inflacion - pra baza e krejt ketyre eshte PRODHIMI dhe vetem prodhimi Samiu ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: RE: [Prishtina-l] OK > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Inflacioni nuk rritet vetem me shtypjen e parave, kjo vetem e nxiton ritjen > e tij. Ne rritjen e inflacionit kryesisht ndikon rritja e qmimeve. Ne rast > se Kosova do te kishte valuten e saj rritja e inflacionit (me saktesisht > shkalla e inflacionit) do ta demtonte kete valute, pasiqe valuta e Kosoves > eshte e kontrolluar nga tjeterkush, ne vleren asaj valute ndikon shkalla e > inflacionit e shtetin ne fjale (ne kete rast Gjermanise). > > Besoj se kjo hedh pak drite ne pyetjen tende. > > Besniku > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shyq Zabeli [mailto:zabeli at gmx.de] > Sent: 24 January 2000 18:36 > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] OK > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > ardi, > > faleminderit shume per sqarim. me duket se e kuptova. > por sa i perket rritjes se inflacionit ne kosove e kam edhe nje paqartesi > (nese te behen keto pyeje te shumeta dhe te mungon koha, te lutem, nuk ke > nevoj t'iu pergjigjesh): si mund te rritet ai, kur valuta s'eshte fare e > kosoves, dmth. politika valutore (dmth. as couchneri e as rugova e as thaqi > nuk > munden te shtypin pare) ose tregu i punes mungon fare ne kosove?!? > > me t'mira, e te falenderoj qysh tash per pergjegjje, > > shyqa > > -- > Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From LINESMAN at webtv.net Thu Jan 27 00:18:46 2000 From: LINESMAN at webtv.net (LINESMAN at webtv.net) Date: Thu Jan 27 00:18:46 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] NEED HELP LOCATING SOMEONE IN ITALY PLEASE In-Reply-To: rainerholm@t-online.de (Rainer Holm)'s message of Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:14:12 +0100 Message-ID: <20223-388FD534-2328@storefull-123.iap.bryant.webtv.net> I am trying to locate a MUHAMET BINAKU from Kosova who went to Italy, probably in the Northern part either in 1995 or 1996, his family has not heard from him since and don't knowif he is alive, in jail or dead (god forebit). Could anyone please help in locating his wereabouts or status. Please email back, he is around 50 years old or so. Regards Bedri From Afrim.Brahimi at fmc.kos.no Thu Jan 27 04:36:29 2000 From: Afrim.Brahimi at fmc.kos.no (Afrim.Brahimi at fmc.kos.no) Date: Thu Jan 27 04:36:29 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] E KERKJ IBRAHIM. FERATI ME FAMIJEN NE FINLAND Message-ID: <9104D564E9FDD011B3B00080D820788902830C9C@email.kbg.kos.no> ADRESA IME ESHT afrim.brahimi at fmc.kos.no From puka at usa.net Fri Jan 28 11:05:43 2000 From: puka at usa.net (G.S) Date: Fri Jan 28 11:05:43 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Bulgaria invites Thaci. Message-ID: <20000128160540.3079.qmail@nw179.netaddress.usa.net> Bulgaria invites Kosovo's Thaqi to boost ties REUTERS SOFIA, Jan. 28 ? Bulgaria's ruling Union of Democratic Forces (UDF) has invited Kosovo Albanian leader Hashim Thaqi to visit in a move intended to boost Balkan cooperation, Prime Minister Ivan Kostov said on Friday. Former guerrilla leader Thaqi, prime minister of a self-declared provisional government of the Yugoslav province, is expected to come this weekend with Arben Xhaferi, leader of the Democratic Party of Albanians (DPA) in neighbouring Macedonia. ''Thaqi's visit was long planned. Together with Xhaferi we plan to discuss ways to activate Balkan cooperation as part of the Balkan Stability Pact,'' Kostov, also UDF chairman, told reporters. ''We hope with this meeting to establish friendly relations with Albanians in Kosovo,'' said Kostov. Thaqi's Kosovo Liberation Army waged a guerrilla campaign against Serb rule in Kosovo for more than a year, before NATO bombing drove out Serb-dominated Yugoslav forces from the territory last June. Thaqi wants full independence for Kosovo, while Western powers say it should remain part of Yugoslavia. ''I do not see why this meeting should harm relations with Serbia. Bulgaria was among the first to urge revision of sanctions imposed on Serbia,'' said Kostov. Earlier this week Russia accused Bulgaria of trying to isolate Belgrade by not inviting Yugoslavia to a Balkan summit last weekend. The summit, also attended by European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, pressed the West to do more to get off the ground the Balkan Stability Pact, formally launched by the major powers last year but still lacking economic substance. The prime ministers of seven Balkan states remained divided last Sunday on whether to ease international sanctions imposed on Yugoslavia, which were hurting the economies of its neighbours. Bulgaria said they should be revised, while Albania said any relaxation would play into the hands of Yugoslav strongman Slobodan Milosevic. Thaqi and Xhaferi are expected to attend a conference of Bulgaria's ethnic Turk Movement for Rights and Freedoms (MRF). The MRF, the third party in parliament, has frequently held the balance of power in Bulgaria's volatile politics over the past decade and its support is seen as crucial in a general election due next year. Xhaferi's Albanian party played a crucial role in Macedonia's presidential election last year, whose support helped reformist Boris Trajkovski win. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From h-rengier at gmx.de Fri Jan 28 12:55:08 2000 From: h-rengier at gmx.de (h-rengier at gmx.de) Date: Fri Jan 28 12:55:08 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Prishtina-L digest, Vol 1 #123 - 1 msg References: <200001281700.MAA28462@alb-net.com> Message-ID: <8322.949082026@www3.gmx.net> To all the honourable parties in the Bulkan, I suggest after all that horrandous experience that the Albanians had to go through, there can under no circumstances be peace beween the Serbs and the Kosovars as well as with the Albanians of Macedonia and the Slave Ethnic group, unless justice takes it's course through addmitting the injustice done to the Albanians through the years as the very first step to reconciliation between the Slav previlged group and the deprived Albanian group in the region. I hereby want to contribute all my uttermost respect to the honourable leader my brother Hashim Thaqi who has shown us clearly what the Kosovar ineed of in the first place, for his intentions are of highly profile demand, by seeking ultimately the independence of Kosova from the scrulous and evil agressor so called Great Serbia. To my brother Mr. Xhaferi, I wish him the best in reaching the goal of the Albanians of Macedonia, so that there is equal right and justice between all the deprived groups in the Macedonia, so that there can be peace and prospirity in the region. The others have have without doubt nothing in their mind, than to keep the Albanians cool for some other century but in ignorance and poverty as far as I am concerned, but there are some who seek harmony among them just to be fair, but certainly they consist of a tiny minority who seek the well being of the Albanians; and clearly the past events have shown us how. Mr. Solana has more in common with the Slave as with the Albanians of the region and so are the Bulgarian leaders. Once bitten twice shy my beloved Shqiptare. Your sincerely Hany M. Rengier -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net From dardan at alb-net.com Fri Jan 28 15:48:53 2000 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Fri Jan 28 15:48:53 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] news: Reuters: Serbia frees 49 ethnic Albanian prisoners Message-ID: Serbia frees 49 ethnic Albanian prisoners BELGRADE, Jan 28 (Reuters) - Serbia has freed 49 Kosovo Albanians over the past two days who had been held in prison since September 1998, the Belgrade-based Humanitarian Law Fund was quoted as saying on Friday. Twenty-seven were released on Friday and 22 on Thursday, according to Beta news agency. ``The court in Pozarevac held two trials today and then set free 27 Kosovo Albanians,'' Fund lawyer Radovan Dedijer was quoted by Beta as saying on Friday. Dedijer said 22 of the men were sentenced to 16 months in prison and then released as they had already spent that long in pre-trial detention. Charges against two others were dropped and the remaining three were acquitted. Of the 22 released on Thursday, 12 had also received 16-month sentenced and were then freed. Dedijer said the prosecutor had reduced the original charges of terrorism, carrying possible terms of up to 20 years imprisonment, down to conspiring to carry out hostile activities, a much less serious crime. The International Committee of the Red Cross has said almost 2,000 Kosovo Albanians are being held in Serb jails. Kosovo Albanian organisations say the real figure is much higher. Yugoslav authorities say they were involved in terrorism during the conflict between Serb forces and Kosovo Albanian separatist guerrillas. Human rights lawyers say many of the sentences are backed by little or no evidence. 15:47 01-28-00 Copyright 2000 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content, including by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL. From dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de Sun Jan 30 14:55:33 2000 From: dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de (Divi Beineke) Date: Sun Jan 30 14:55:33 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] APP (ASSOCIATION OF POLITICAL PRISONERS) in Prishtina needs help Message-ID: <389496F4.C47DEAAF@osnabrueck.netsurf.de> Hello dear friends, the following mail we recieved today: -------------- Original Message -------------- Betreff: APP office needs Datum: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:14:08 -0800 (PST) Von: ALICE MEAD An: dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de, wplarre at bndlg.de Dear Divi and Wolfgang HI! I am here in Prishtina helping Shukrie at the APP office. There are many things they need in working on this large and difficult problem... 1. reams of paper--have none 2. fax 3. modem-- no email 4. camera 5. most of all--a CAR to go to villages 6. volunteers with office skills to help in the huge task of organizing info and making a prisoner database. The need for this database is urgent. Visited two boys yesterday who were in Pozharevac for six months. There are ten more minors located still in prison. thanks!! alice mead -------------- end ---------------- APP has the aim to inform the public of the unjust situation regarding the approximately 5,000 Kosovar prisoners detained in Serb prisons and to assist concerned people in advocating for their release. Website of APP you?ll find at: http://www.khao.org/appkosova.htm If you know how to help, please contact one of us! Best regards Divi Beineke, Germany -- Reconstruction Kosova: http://www.osnabrueck.netsurf.de:8080/~dbein/wiederaufbau.htm From Jordan_k at aps.edu Mon Jan 31 11:42:58 2000 From: Jordan_k at aps.edu (Keith Jordan) Date: Mon Jan 31 11:42:58 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Phone Numbers Message-ID: <001901bf6c0a$a2f4fae0$de6485c0@dragonred> Hi everyone, sorry to bother with a trivial problem, I'm trying to call some one that lives in Polje, about 6 kilometers south and west of Prishtina, of course this may not be the "whole" name of the village, but if you live in Prishtina it should be close enough to figure it out, I know the country code is 381, but is there a seperate city code for Polje, I know Prishtina is 38. Thanks for any help you can offer. I really appreciate it. Keith From ssander at ans.net Mon Jan 31 11:48:46 2000 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Mon Jan 31 11:48:46 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Phone Numbers In-Reply-To: <001901bf6c0a$a2f4fae0$de6485c0@dragonred> Message-ID: Hi Keith! I dont think that there is a city named Polje anywhere in Kosova. However, for the cities near Prishtina you would use the same telephone area code. thanx - Sander On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Keith Jordan wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Hi everyone, sorry to bother with a trivial problem, I'm trying to call some > one that lives in Polje, about 6 kilometers south and west of Prishtina, of > course this may not be the "whole" name of the village, but if you live in > Prishtina it should be close enough to figure it out, I know the country > code is 381, but is there a seperate city code for Polje, I know Prishtina > is 38. Thanks for any help you can offer. I really appreciate it. > > Keith > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From eshref at januzaj.de Mon Jan 31 11:56:00 2000 From: eshref at januzaj.de (Mali) Date: Mon Jan 31 11:56:00 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Phone Numbers Message-ID: <3895BE6D.10916A17@januzaj.de> Hi Keith, Keith Jordan schrieb: > Hi everyone, sorry to bother with a trivial problem, I'm trying to > call some one that lives in Polje, about 6 kilometers south and west > of Prishtina, of course this may not be the "whole" name of the > village, but if you live in Prishtina it should be close enough to > figure it out, I know the country code is 381, but is there a > seperate city code for Polje, I know Prishtina is 38. Thanks for any > help you can offer. I really appreciate it. there are no Village in that region that called Polje. Not in Prishtina-Region. But there are a town about 6 km south-west of Prishtina that called "Fushe Kosova". Sorry for my bad english! Eshrefi -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Eshref Januzaj ** Munich University of Technology ** | | ** Department of Computer Science ** | | ** Arcisstr.21, Munich - Germany ** | | | | E-Mail : januzaj at informatik.tu-muenchen.de | | WWW : http://www.in.tum.de/~januzaj/ | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de Mon Jan 31 15:26:25 2000 From: dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de (Divi Beineke) Date: Mon Jan 31 15:26:25 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Polje References: <200001311700.MAA01524@alb-net.com> Message-ID: <3895EF50.9E784CBD@kosova-info-line.de> Hi Keith an all, who answered to Keith?s mail, I can?t help with the phone number but I?m sure, there is a village called "Kosova/o-Polje", a railwaystation must be there! There had been an info at KFOR website on 19 th January: "(...) Kosovo Polje to Lesak train - KFOR Greek military police are providing the security on the KP to Lesak train. The train runs in both directions twice a day. It departs KP at 5:30 a.m. and 3:20 p.m. and from Zvecan it departs at 7:08 a.m. and 4:58 p.m. Each day approximately 200 people ride the train for work and private business." (http://www.kforonline.com/news/updates/nu_19jan00.htm) I hope, this will help you in any way! sincerly Divi Beineke -- "Reconstruction Kosova" http://www.osnabrueck.netsurf.de:8080/~dbein/wiederaufbau.htm > > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:48:41 -0500 (EST) > From: Sander Sinishtaj > To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Phone Numbers > Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > Hi Keith! > > I dont think that there is a city named Polje anywhere in Kosova. > However, for the cities near Prishtina you would use the same telephone > area code. > > thanx > > - Sander > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Keith Jordan wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Hi everyone, sorry to bother with a trivial problem, I'm trying to call some > > one that lives in Polje, about 6 kilometers south and west of Prishtina, of > > course this may not be the "whole" name of the village, but if you live in > > Prishtina it should be close enough to figure it out, I know the country > > code is 381, but is there a seperate city code for Polje, I know Prishtina > > is 38. Thanks for any help you can offer. I really appreciate it. > > > > Keith > > > > From Jordan_k at aps.edu Mon Jan 31 16:11:36 2000 From: Jordan_k at aps.edu (Keith Jordan) Date: Mon Jan 31 16:11:36 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Polje Message-ID: <001f01bf6c30$3294b620$f86485c0@dragonred> Thanks one and all for your swift replies to my email, I now have the correct country, city and number codes and it works!!!!! Thank you so much, I really appreciate it. Keith From baharrell at hotmail.com Mon Jan 31 18:06:13 2000 From: baharrell at hotmail.com (brinkley harrell) Date: Mon Jan 31 18:06:13 2000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Phone Numbers Message-ID: <20000131230541.81306.qmail@hotmail.com> Everyone should know of the town of "Kosovo-Polje"...yes, it is about 6-10 km west/southwest of Pristina...it is where the Pristina train station is located, and was the site of the famous "Battle of Kosovo-Polje" in 1389...the Ottoman Empire (Turks) soundly defeated the Serbian Empire, and was the beginning of the end of Greater Serbia... The country code and city code is the same as for Pristina... >From: Sander Sinishtaj >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Phone Numbers >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:48:41 -0500 (EST) > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >Hi Keith! > >I dont think that there is a city named Polje anywhere in Kosova. >However, for the cities near Prishtina you would use the same telephone >area code. > >thanx > >- Sander > > >On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Keith Jordan wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Hi everyone, sorry to bother with a trivial problem, I'm trying to call >some > > one that lives in Polje, about 6 kilometers south and west of Prishtina, >of > > course this may not be the "whole" name of the village, but if you live >in > > Prishtina it should be close enough to figure it out, I know the country > > code is 381, but is there a seperate city code for Polje, I know >Prishtina > > is 38. Thanks for any help you can offer. I really appreciate it. > > > > Keith > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com