[Prishtina-l] Re: snipers

[marta gazideda]

Keto jane komentet e fundit qe i morra prej Francit, tjerat, fatkeqesisht i 
kam fshire.


"I sent you the reaction from Alice Mead, also a writer about the 
Kosovo-issue on my statement.
Noel Malcolm is already disguished as only speaking pro-albanian so I would 
like to stay far away from him. In holland on the other hand there is much 
objective news from
both sides and it seems that more and more the world start to open their 
eyes (not only me) and see how dangerous albanians are going on with the 
situation there is now
in Kosovo. Soon you will need to start war against KFOR otherwise you are 
like we sya: from the rain into the dripping. (meaning, from bad into worse. 
Since the american
soldiers will certainly not stop raping little girls but soon start their 
own prostitutes etc ewtc like they had in Vietnam. You will in a few years 
see that you threw away bad
things but took in your province the devil!

----- Original Message -----
From: Alice Mead
To: frans hartman
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: time

Dear Frans
Of course Kosova should be multi-ethnic. But at the moment, it is barely 
controlled chaos, mixed with war-trauma, rock-bottom poverty and complete 
joblessness.
The ten years of apartheid rule destroyed the institutions and 
infrastructure of Kosova in an unusual way. All "normal" institutions are 
missing...esp. police and courts
and prisons. There are 100,000 Serbs who now live in fear in Kosova. What 
must be established first is lawfulness--on both sides of the border-- and 
that will take
time. How long I don't know. I wish I did! My own view is that just to 
recreate the minimum of law and order in Kosova will take five years. In 
that period, I urge
Serbs to provide whatever safety for themselves they can, with the help of 
KFOR. They are a minority now living in a lawless situation. I am sorry it's 
like this, but the
reality is that with no police or courts...even in a lawful  country like 
mine, shootings can proliferate quickly and no one here has been through a 
war. After five years,
tolerance and lawfulness taught all the time in schools as it is in the US 
(and we still have ethnic problems here)..then the Albanians must maintain 
full responsibility for
lawful conduct towards others--and themselves! Failure to do so should 
result in immediate consequences.
sorry I don't have an answer that will solve this in the next few months..I 
am afraid that Kosova will be pulled in many directions for a long time to 
come.
thanks for writing.
alice

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From: "frans hartman" <frans.hartman at worldonline.nl>
To: <amead at maine.rr.com>
Subject: time
Date: Sat, Feb 19, 2000, 8:41 AM


     dear madam,
     Time to stand up after all these years fighting for the rights of the 
minority in Yugoslavia Now other people are expelled from their homes., 
murdered, raped by
     Kosovars. Twohundred-thousand Serbs had to leave their houses under the 
pressure of being murdered by Kosovars. Your writing of books how bad the
     Kosovars were threated is now done the same but only against the 
Serbs/Gypsies/Bosnians/Jews. Like the Albanians just planned to have their 
ethnically
     clean country.
     You write about a multi-cultural society.
     But can you answer this question:
     When Milosevic had power over Kosovo there WAS an multi-cultural 
society. Serbs, Turks. Serbian spaking muslims, Albanians, Bosnians, Jews, 
Roma and
     Sinti. Now there are almost alone living Albanians. So who is to blame 
for ethnical cleansing of that region?

     regards,


     Frans Hartman
     Amsterdam
     former UN-observer on the Balkan


>From: Shemsi Hima <shhima at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com
>To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com, albert_hyseni at hotmail.com,        
>frans.hartman at worldonline.nl
>CC: albanian_uk at listbot.com, ALBANIAN at LISTSERV.ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU,        
>prishtina-l at alb-net.com
>Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Re: snipers
>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:11:25 -0800 (PST)
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>Kyo chi ascht schkrue ma posht dooket me tschene nyi
>perjije shpeyt e schkrooeme prey arsenalit tchi
>shumitsa e neve schiptarve e kena te pregatitun ne
>advans (resultat ky i edukimit tone patriotic ne
>schola komuniste) kur vyen poona te tschashtye sich
>ascht ayo e pheve te na. per correctesi politique
>kisha pase tcheph me e ledzue se tchka thote ay far
>Hartmani. Nese dicush e ka
>yu lutem me ma tschue ne e-mail adresen time.
>  falemnderit
>euroschema:)
>
>--- marta gazideda <marta_gazideda at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> > I am joining this "debate" somewhat late maybe,
> > even, too late. I wonder Mr
> > Hartman when were you in Kosove, in Rahovec? In what
> > capacity? For your
> > comments seem very unbalanced, biased and unhuman.
> >
> > Post-war trauma is evident throughout Kosove and
> > there will be Albanians'
> > who will react violently due to the fact that their
> > whole families were
> > killed, massacred, executed and raped! By no account
> > is this occurrence
> > calculated,organised or orchestrated - it is people
> > reacting to century long
> > repression in the hands of Serbia.
> >
> > As for the rape of Serbs - I doubt that any Albanian
> > would sully their hands
> > and honour in committing such acts and actually
> > touching a Serb!
> >
> > There never were nor will there ever be islamic
> > terrorists in Kosove. You
> > seem to confuse the concept of nationality and
> > religion. By nationality all
> > of us are Albanians, by religion we can be of Muslim
> > faith, Roman Catholic
> > and Orthodox. Guess which one I am???  Religion was
> > never a problem amongst
> > ourselves - we are Albanians and that it all that
> > matters!
> >
> > It is the uninformed and ignorant people who, even
> > after the war in Bosnia
> > and Kosove, maintain that the war in the Balkans
> > began for religious
> > reasons. The only reason why the Balkans is going up
> > in flames is because
> > Serbia was facing economic ruin and the attention
> > had to be diverted
> > somewhere else - in 1992 it was Bosnia and in 1998
> > Kosova.
> >
> > There is so much more I can tell you about however
> > it is best if you get
> > hold of Noel Malcolm's book on Kosova and read it
> > for yourself.
> >
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> >
> >
> > Marta K. Gazideda
> >
> >
> >
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