From kosova at jps.net Tue Nov 2 13:48:55 1999 From: kosova at jps.net (kosova at jps.net) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:48:55 -0800 Subject: [Prishtina-l] RE: RELEASE KOSOVAR POLITICAL PRISONERS FROM SERBIA Message-ID: <381F3217.DCD1784F@jps.net> JOIN US IN A WORLD-WIDE RALLY DEMANDING THE RELEASE OF THE ILLEGALLY DETAINED AND ABUSED ALBANIAN PRISONERS WITHIN SERBIA -------------------------------------------------- SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 1999 -------------------------------------------------- The Kosova Action Network is sponsoring a world-wide rally to free the Kosovar Political Prisoners on November 20, 1999. It is estimated that over 5,000 Albanians are being held in Serbian prisons. It is difficult to estimate numbers held with any accuracy. The lack of cooperation by the Serb authorities regarding the numbers and conditions of the prisoners only increases the anguish, uncertainty, and indignation of their relatives. Their physical and psychological degradation places their lives in prison at permanent risk. During the brutal Serb offense against the Albanians of Kosova, many civilians including children, women, and men including doctors, professors, lawyers, and students as well as individuals involved in humanitarian and political activities, were illegally captured and sent to prisons within Serbia simply because they are ethnic Albanians. They were arrested under 30-day martial law warrants that expired on June 15, 1999. The imprisoned have not undergone any trial or court procedure to justify their imprisonment. In order to bring stability to Kosova, we urge you to join us in a world-wide rally demanding their release. The world-wide rallies [November 20, 1999] coincides with the day U.N. celebrates it's 10th anniversary of the UN Child Convention. A petition has been prepared to distribute and also to accept signatures of supporters around the world. In Kosova, over 50,000 signatures have been collected. You may print the signature form online at: http://www.khao.org/appkosova-petitionsign.htm or contact us for a copy. Let's end the suffering and start the healing. RALLIES TO TAKE PLACE IN U.S.A. Alaska, California, Chicago, New York, Florida, Michigan, Texas RALLIES TO TAKE PLACE OUTSIDE THE U.S. Albania, Australia, Canada, Germany, Kosova, Sweden, Scandinavia CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION! http://www.khao.org/appkosova.htm Tel: (714) 478-3587 * Fax: (714) 898-0740 * E-mail: kosova at jps.net From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 3 16:00:48 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:00:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? Message-ID: A eshte e vertete se keto fjale i kane shkruar ne Kosovapress?? A e ka dikush artikullin origjinal ne shqip? Etriti. Marre nga Washington Times: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/25/010l-102599-idx.html Two weeks ago, the Kosovapress agency put on its Web site in Albanian an attack on Surroi and Baton Haxhiu, the editor of Koha Ditore, who had published most of the KLA communiques when the Kosovo conflict started. It suggested that they might be "spies for Serbs," carrying out "pro-Serbian vampirism" and suffering from "pan-Slavic nostalgias." Are they really "of Albanian blood"? the article asked. It suggested that Surroi remained in Pristina during the air strikes thanks to the aid of Serb paramilitaries. "They may get killed, and it will be understandable," the KLA agency said. From ssander at ans.net Wed Nov 3 16:04:48 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:04:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Po Etrit, e vertere eshte. Sa me duket mua, edhe "Qen Serb" e kan quajte Veton Surroin! hmmmmmmmmm - Sander On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > A eshte e vertete se keto fjale i kane shkruar ne Kosovapress?? A e ka > dikush artikullin origjinal ne shqip? > > Etriti. > > Marre nga Washington Times: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/25/010l-102599-idx.html > > Two weeks ago, the Kosovapress agency put on its Web site in Albanian an > attack on Surroi and Baton Haxhiu, the editor of Koha Ditore, who > had published most of the KLA communiques when the Kosovo conflict started. It > suggested that they might be "spies for Serbs," carrying out "pro-Serbian > vampirism" and suffering from "pan-Slavic nostalgias." > > Are they really "of Albanian blood"? the article asked. It suggested that > Surroi remained in Pristina during the air strikes thanks to the aid of Serb > paramilitaries. "They may get killed, and it will be understandable," the > KLA agency said. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 3 16:40:20 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:40:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A kane lyp falje per kete? Etriti. On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Po Etrit, e vertere eshte. Sa me duket mua, edhe "Qen Serb" e kan quajte > Veton Surroin! hmmmmmmmmm > > - Sander > > > On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > > > A eshte e vertete se keto fjale i kane shkruar ne Kosovapress?? A e ka > > dikush artikullin origjinal ne shqip? > > > > Etriti. > > > > Marre nga Washington Times: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/25/010l-102599-idx.html > > > > Two weeks ago, the Kosovapress agency put on its Web site in Albanian an > > attack on Surroi and Baton Haxhiu, the editor of Koha Ditore, who > > had published most of the KLA communiques when the Kosovo conflict started. It > > suggested that they might be "spies for Serbs," carrying out "pro-Serbian > > vampirism" and suffering from "pan-Slavic nostalgias." > > > > Are they really "of Albanian blood"? the article asked. It suggested that > > Surroi remained in Pristina during the air strikes thanks to the aid of Serb > > paramilitaries. "They may get killed, and it will be understandable," the > > KLA agency said. > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From ssander at ans.net Wed Nov 3 16:41:25 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:41:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nuk e di! :) - Sander On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > A kane lyp falje per kete? > > Etriti. > > On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > > > Po Etrit, e vertere eshte. Sa me duket mua, edhe "Qen Serb" e kan quajte > > Veton Surroin! hmmmmmmmmm > > > > - Sander > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > > > > > A eshte e vertete se keto fjale i kane shkruar ne Kosovapress?? A e ka > > > dikush artikullin origjinal ne shqip? > > > > > > Etriti. > > > > > > Marre nga Washington Times: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/25/010l-102599-idx.html > > > > > > Two weeks ago, the Kosovapress agency put on its Web site in Albanian an > > > attack on Surroi and Baton Haxhiu, the editor of Koha Ditore, who > > > had published most of the KLA communiques when the Kosovo conflict started. It > > > suggested that they might be "spies for Serbs," carrying out "pro-Serbian > > > vampirism" and suffering from "pan-Slavic nostalgias." > > > > > > Are they really "of Albanian blood"? the article asked. It suggested that > > > Surroi remained in Pristina during the air strikes thanks to the aid of Serb > > > paramilitaries. "They may get killed, and it will be understandable," the > > > KLA agency said. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From ls442 at columbia.edu Wed Nov 3 16:48:50 1999 From: ls442 at columbia.edu (Lion King) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:48:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Po Etrit e vertete eshte, dhe sa e di nuk kane kerkuar falje. Mirepo, edhe pse atje gazetaria eshe fushe manipulimi per individe te cilet nuk mund te kuptojne dot se nuk jane politikaje, e bile as gazetare (ne shume raste) ne nuk e dime se sa jane te verteta ato akuza. _____________________________ | | | Luan Shala | | 7912 Lerner Hall | | New York, NY 10027-8382 | | Phone: (718) 798-8495 | | Email: ls442 at columbia.edu | |_____________________________| From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 3 16:57:58 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:57:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: T'a them te drejten me vjen pak cudi si ka mundur Kosovapress-i te shkruaj ashtu, sidomos pasi qe ajo e quan veten Agjensi Shteterore, dhe pas fitimit te besimit te qytetareve me lajme aq te nevojshme gjate luftes... Shpresoj se kesi shkrime nuk do te ndodhin me, nga cilado gazete apo organ qe vepron ne Kosove... Etriti. On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Lion King wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Po Etrit e vertete eshte, dhe sa e di nuk kane kerkuar falje. Mirepo, edhe > pse atje gazetaria eshe fushe manipulimi per individe te cilet nuk mund > te kuptojne dot se nuk jane politikaje, e bile as gazetare (ne shume > raste) ne nuk e dime se sa jane te verteta ato akuza. > > _____________________________ > | | > | Luan Shala | > | 7912 Lerner Hall | > | New York, NY 10027-8382 | > | Phone: (718) 798-8495 | > | Email: ls442 at columbia.edu | > |_____________________________| > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com Wed Nov 3 18:56:37 1999 From: UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com (UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:56:37 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? Message-ID: <0.89cbedb2.255225b5@aol.com> une ju kisha sygjeruar qe te pritni te shofim se qka thot Arbeni; besoj se ai din me shum se ju per keto gjera .....lol pa ofendim ssander, etro, lionking ........... j/k egji From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 3 19:57:05 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:57:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] SHF Faik Konica Message-ID: Pasi qe askush nuk u pergjigj se cila eshte SHF Elena Gjika, po e bej pyetjen tjeter, cila eshte SHF Faik Konica? Pasi qe drejtor eshte Abaz Rrecaj, e ky me ka dhene shqip ne shkollen fillore "Aca Maroviq", atehere besoj se kjo eshte shkolla e njejte me emrin e ri... Dmth prej tash kur t'me pyes dikush se ku e kam mbaruar shkollen fillore, duhet te them: ne Faik Konica... ;) Etriti. Marre prej QIK-ut: Komiteti Botror Hebraik i dhuroi 15 kompjuter shkolls fillore "Faik Konica" t Prishtins Prishtin, 2 nntor (QIK) - Komiteti Botror Hebraik dhe Komiteti Hebraik i Shprndarjes, i dhuroi 15 kompjuter modern, 32 karrika si dhe 15 tavolina pr kompjuter sh.f. "Faik Konica" t Prishtins. Abaz Rrecaj, drejtor i ksaj shkolle, thot se s pari do t bhet aftsimi i msimdhnsve t ksaj shkolle n prdorimin e kompjuterve, kurse pastaj edhe msimi i nxnsve t ksaj shkolle n aplikimin e kompjuterve. From besnik at alb-net.com Wed Nov 3 20:58:54 1999 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:58:54 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: <0.89cbedb2.255225b5@aol.com> Message-ID: Ky eshte artikulli ne fjale... Mendjet e rob?ruara n? Kosov?n e lir? ? Prishtin?, 2 tetor (Kosovapress-Merxhan Avdyli) Botuesi i t? p?rditshmes ?Koha ditore?, Veton Surroi, i cili ?sht? edhe an?tar i t? ashtuquajturit K?shilli Transitor i Kosov?s, t? udh?hequr nga administratori i huaj p?r Kosov?n, Bernar Kushner, dit? m? par? e ka kualifikuar shoq?rin? shqiptare n? Kosov? si shoq?ri me elemente t? fashizmit. P?r elementet fashiste, t? cilat ai si nuhat?s dhe mblla?it?s i m?suar p?r t?i kall?zuar serb?ve, t? cilat kinse i ka hetuar tash, po u kall?zon t? huajve, duke u serviluar, sigurisht p?r ta piedestuar veten diku n? majat e pushtetit civil nd?rkomb?tar n? Kosov?. K?t? vler?sim e ka p?rs?ritur Veton Surroi disaher?, por p?r fatin e tij t? keq, gjithnj? pa sukses. Veton Surroi, jo nj?her?, koh?ve t? fundit, si zakon q? e ka pas? spiunimin, dikur te serb?t, e tash ku t? mundet, ka kall?zuar, duke d?shmuar rrejsh?m se kinse shqiptar?t po hakmerren kolektivisht ndaj minoritar?ve serb? t? Kosov?s. Edhe v?llai i tij i mendjes dhe i ideologjis?, Baton Haxhiu, i cili nj?herit ?sht? kryeredaktor i gazet?s s? Veton Surroit, q? ?sht? nj? puthak?mb? serb sui generis, nuk ngurron t? mblla?is? tirada t? tilla surroiste, t? sajuara nga v?llez?rit e tyre serb?. Baton Haxhiu i cili b?rtet dhe b?rlyket kund?r klas?s s? re politike n? Kosov?, kund?r luft?tar?ve t? liris?, nuk ?sht? m? pak vetues sllav?, sepse b?rtima dhe b?rlykja e tij b?hen edhe kund?r liris? s? Kosov?s. B?rlykja e tij sllave, e dal? nga mania e tij e njohur, duket se k?saj radhe ?sht? tejet shfrenuese dhe si e till? nuk do t? duhej t? mbetej n? harres?. Akuzat e tij ndaj qeveritar?ve t? tash?m dhe ndaj U?K-s?, n? nj? revist? gjermane, tejkalojn? urrejtjen njer?zore dhe kalojn? n? delirin idiotesk, q? patjet?r nxit kund?rveprimin dhe t? fut n? shtjell?n p?r t?iu kund?rv?n? merituesh?m. Vet?timat e vazhdueshme serbe t? Veton Surroit dhe b?rtimat e b?rlykjet e pandalshme t? Baton Haxhiut, t? l?shuara ndaj shoq?ris? shqiptare n? Kosov?, shoq?ri kjo e cila edhe pse ka arritur t? ravij?zoj? p?rmasat e liris?, po p?rballet me p?rpjekjet e m?dha p?r ta nd?rtuar jet?n e vet dhe p?r ta origjinalizuar shoq?rin? shqiptare n? Kosov?, vijn? n? koh?n kur Kosova p?rfundimisht ia ka th?n? lamtumir?n rob?ris? dhe e ka sip?rfaq?suar lirin?. Nuk ?sht? as e rastit as e ?uditshme q? kjo k?rkes? synuese p?r ta b?r? jet?n jasht? kornizave rob?ruese dhe t? liruar nga vet?dija e robit, do t? has? n? pengesa, ve?an?risht nga konfident?t e deridjesh?m serb?, t? tipit t? Veton Surroit, apo t? Baton Haxhiut, e shqipfol?sve t? tjer? degjenerik? dhe t? ?nd?rrimtar?ve t? ngjash?m proserb?. Por t? ndalemi te vet?timat konkrete proserbe, m? shkoqur promillosheviqiane t? gospodin Veton Surroit, p?r t?u ndalur pastaj edhe te idiotizmat e gospodinit tjet?r Baton Haxhiu. Kualifikimi i Veton Surroit se n? Kosov? kemi t? b?jm? me elemente fashiste te shqiptar?t, i ngjan kualifikimit t? dikursh?m politik t? ngjarjeve t? tet?dhjetenj?shit, si ngjarje kund?rrevolucionare, kualifikim ky i mblla?itur qen?e nga komunist?t jugosllav? me prejardhje shqiptare, pasojat e t? cilit dihen. Kualifikimi i Veton Surroit p?r elementet fashiste n? shoq?rin? shqiptare, s?do mend se kut?rbon er? sllave, madje at? e ka theksuar gjasuesh?m me idiotizmin sheshelian, prandaj si i till? ai do t? ket? pasoja negative, natyrisht duke e pas? parasysh edhe disponimin antishqiptar t? nj? pjese t? bashk?sis? nd?rkomb?tare si Rusia, Kina. Reflektimi i kualifikimeve t? Veton Surroit, p?r elementet fashiste n? shoq?rin? shqiptare, ka shkuar deri te p?rkrahja q? iu dha atij nga kriminel?t promillosheviqian?, t? cil?t gjenden n? kuvendin e shtetit fqinj t? Kosov?s, Mal t? Zi, me ??rast nj? deputet i partis? s? kriminelit Bullatoviq, k?rkoi n? nj? seanc? t? kuvendit t? Malit t? Zi q? deput?t shqiptar? t? Malit t? Zi t? deklarohen ashtu si? mendon Veton Surroi. Meq? ata nuk e b?n? k?t?, rr?muja e krijuar n? kuvend b?ri q? q? t? nd?rpritet seanca. Gjithashtu me nj? kualifikim t? till? nuk ?sht? pajtuar, madje as zoti Karl Bild, kur n? nj? konferenc? shtypi ?sht? pyetur se a ka fashiz?m n? shoq?rin? shqiptare t? Kosov?s, ai ka qeshur dhe ?sht? p?rgjigjur me lakoniz?m, duke shtuar se sigurisht mendohet n? vler?simet e Veton Surroit dhe natyrisht q? ka deklaruar se nuk di p?r fashizmin shqiptar. Me kualifikimet e Veton Surroit dhe t? Baton Haxhiut, nd?rkaq jan? pajtuar plot?sisht mjetet serbe t? informacionit dhe politikan?t serb? t? tipit t? kriminel?ve Millosheviq, Sheshel e t? ngjash?m, duke i elozhuar ata dhe pik?pamjet e tyre, q? sipas serb?ve vijn? nga ?umerena struja poshtenih shiptara?. Tentativa e vampirizimit t? nostalgjik?ve prosllav? si Veton Surroi, Baton Haxhiu e kompani, q? mjerisht nuk jan? t? vetmit shqiptar? q? ende i shohin ?ndrrat serbisht, nuk ?sht? e panjohur as nuk do t? p?rfundoj? me krijimin e jet?s s? lir? n? Kosov?. Ndjeshm?ria prosllave e tyre ende do t? kut?rboj?. Ani pse me finok?ri ajo do t? paraqitet kinse e bazuar n? prirjet e qytetaris? toleruese. Nd?rsa ky vampirizim m? s? shumti i ndihmon politik?s s? kryekriminelit serb Sllobodan Millosheviq, i cili gjithmon? do t? mb?shtetet n? shqiptar?t me prirje proserbe. Akuzat e Surroit se klasa e tashme politike n? Kosov? po heshtka ndaj veprimeve hakmarr?se ?sht? nj? akuz? q? vjen nga njeriu, shpirti i shitur i t? cilit nuk mund t? rri qet? pa goditur pik?n m? t? ndejshme komb?tare. T?rthorazi kjo ?sht? nj? goditje q? ai u jep luft?tar?ve t? liris?, madje edhe atyre q? kan? r?n? p?r lirin? q? sot n? Prishtin? e g?zojn? Veton Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe gjith? llumi tjet?r bastard i sojit t? tyre, q? mjerisht jan? t? stisur nga gjaku shqiptar, ose s? paku jan? t? deklaruar si t? till?, pasi proserb?ve nuk u dihet sakt? as origjina. Vajtimi serb i Veton Surroit, si dhe ato t? Baton Haxhiut, vijn? n? koh?n m? t? p?rshatshme p?r kriminel?t serb?, kur tezat e tyre lidhen mrekullisht dhe serbisht me tezat e kriminelit m? t? urryer n? bot?, antishqiptarit dhe antinjeriut Sllobodan Millosheviq dhe gjith? rrethit t? tij monstruoz, nga aspekti i veprimit politik dhe t? dyshimt? nga aspekti moral e njer?zor. Askush nuk mund t?ua ndaloj? gospodin?ve Surroi dhe Haxhiu, vampir?ve proserb?, q? nj?her? qen? vet?shpallur t? vdekur, p?r t? cil?t ka t? dh?na se gjat? bombardimeve t? NATO-s jan? ndihmuar nga paramilitar?t serb?, t? fyejn? ndjenjat komb?tare t? liridash?sve shqiptar?, por ata kur ta marrin at? turr serb ndaj shqiptar?ve do t? ishte e ndershme, qoft? nga aspekti politik, qoft? nga aspekti njer?zor q? t? pozicionohen mir?, hapur dhe shkoqur, e t? tregoj? prirjet e tyre antishqiptare, kur hetohet pozicioni i tyre sllav, q? ?sht? i mir?pritur nga garda politike antishqiptare, q? nuk ?sht? e pakt? as n? misionin e tash?m civil nd?rkomb?tar n? Kosov?, udh?heq?s i t? cilit ?sht? konfuzi Bernar Kushner. Servilizmi ndaj serb?ve i nj? pjese t? pseidopolitikan?ve me prejardhje shqiptare nga Kosova, si Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu, ka qen? dhe vazhdon t? mbetet pengesa kryesore e zhvilimit t? proceseve pavar?sore t? shqiptar?ve, pasi bro?kullat e tyre, sipas recetave sllave, t? pjekura n? vet?dijen e tyre, kan? shkaktuar pasoja t? m?dha, duke e d?mtuar r?nd? zgjidhjen e ??shtjes shqiptare. Veton Surroi dhe t? gjith? vetuesit sllav? dhe surrojt? e tjer? shqiptar? mundohen t? paraqiten kinse tolerant?, thuajse ata jan? p?rgjegj?s t? b?jn? nj? gj? t? till?, thuajse ata jan? t? prekur nga hakmarrja. Mbase edhe jan? t? prekur nga hakmarrja, e cila edhe ashtu nuk ?sht? n? asnj? m?nyr? aso p?rmasash, si? i shquajn? Veton Surroi apo Baton Haxhiu. Hakmarrja shqiptare n? aspektin luftarak, madje edhe psikologjik, e ka arritur q?llimin e saj me faktin se luft?tar?t shqiptar? t? liris? ia kan? kthyer pushk?n okupator?ve serb?, miqve t? shenjt? t? Veton Surroit dhe t? Baton Haxhiut, vaji i t? cil?ve mund t? kuptohet. Mir?po ata edhe tash mund t? jen? lirisht miq t? serb?ve, por n? asnj? m?nyr? duke e fyer gjakun e luft?rar?ve t? r?n? t? liris?. N?se ka vrasje t? serb?ve n? Kosov?, si? ka edhe vrasje t? shqiptar?ve, t? cilat Vetonit dhe Batonit u duken normale. pasi problemin e hakmarrjes s? shpifur nga prizmi i tyre e shohin nga poziconi i politik?s millosheviqiane, nuk ?sht? n? asnj? m?nyr? deformitet kolektiv i shqiptar?ve, por ai para se gjthash ?sht? shprehje e nj? urrjetjeje t? grumbulluar gjat? koh? te nj? pjes? e shqiptar?ve nga vuajtjet e t? cil?ve Veton Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe soji e sorollopi i tyre kan? p?rfituar bashk? me gjith? dashamir?sit e tyre serb? n? Kosov?. Hakmarrjet e tilla, n?se ekzitojn?, natyrisht se nuk jan? t? pranueshme, por ato n? aspektin psikologjik dhe njer?zor jan? t? kuptueshme. Pastaj nj? pjes? t? veprimeve t? tilla t? cilat Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu ia ngarkojn? edhe klas?s s? tashme politike n? Kosov?, duke aluduar n? ushtar?t e Ushtris? ?lirimtare t? Kosov?s, madje edhe duke i akuzuar ata si element? fashist? n? shoq?rin? shqiptare, dyshohet se i kan? kryer pik?risht bashk?mendimtar?t e Veton Surroit, t? Baton Haxhiut dhe dashamir?sit e tyre me q?llim t? komprometimit t? klas?s s? re politike dhe t? krahut komb?tar t? shqiptar?ve t? Kosov?s. K?t? duhet ta din? edhe Veton Surroi edhe Baton Haxhiu dhe t? gjith? puthak?mb?t e tjer? t? serb?ve, t? cil?t t? bazuar n? fjalorin e tyre antishqiptar kan? mundur edhe vet? t? organizojn? kryerjen e veprimeve t? tilla, gjithnj? sipas recetave t? serb?ve. Prandaj, nuk ?sht? e ?uditshme q? kopuk?t politik?, si Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu, t? jen? vet? nxit?sit dhe kryesit e veprimeve t? ndryshme, pasi duket se jan? t? prirur t? b?jn? veprime t? tilla, duke u bazuar edhe n? pedigret? e tyre proserbe dhe komuniste. Ata q? nuk ngurrojn? t? shkelin mbi gjakun e atyre q? e kan? b?r? lirin? n? Kosov? dhe q? fyejn? r?nd? esenc?n dhe shpirtin shqiptar do t? duhet ta din? se mund t? jen? edhe pre e ndonj? hakmarrjeje eventuale dhe fare t? kuptueshme, prandaj as Veton Surroi e as Baton Haxhiu, k?ta mafioz? ordiner?, nuk do t? duhej t? mbeteshin pa u nd?shkuar p?r veprat e tyre kriminale, pasi idiotizmat e tyre ndihmojn? kryekriminelin serb Sllobodan Millosheviq. Dhe, duhet ta dijn? q? t? dyt? bashk? me t? gjith? anishqiptar?t e tjer? se as vet? Millosheviqi i cili ?sht? akuzuar bot?risht, nga Gjykata Nd?komb?tare e Hag?s, si kriminel lufte nuk ka vrar? me dor?n e tij asnj? njeri, asnj? shqiptar, por ?sht? kryekrimineli vet?, q? vendin e ka n? Hag?. Veton Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe ndihm?sit e tjer? t? kriminel?ve serb?, ndoshta nuk e kan? vendin n? radh?t e para t? bang?s s? zez? t? Gjyqit t? Hag?s, por n? nj?r?n prej radh?ve gjithsesi, si? po ia b?jn? nga aspekti moral vetes vendin n? plehun e historis?. Ndryshe n? shoq?rin? shqiptare do t? kut?rboj? gjithmon? era e polik?s sllave, e cila u nd?shkua merituesh?m nga Aleanca Veriatlantike. Deklaratat denoncuese kund?r shqiptar?ve t? Veton Surroit dhe t? Baton Haxhiut, n? dobi t? politik?s kriminele serbe, sigurisht nuk do t? mund ta zhb?jn? lirin? e arritur t? Kosov?s. Mir?po, kriminel?t e till? dhe mendjet e tilla t? rob?ruara, nuk duhet t? ken? vend n? Kosov?n e lir?. From besnik at alb-net.com Wed Nov 3 21:03:22 1999 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:03:22 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] SHF Faik Konica In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 7:57 PM -0500 11/3/99, Etrit Bardhi wrote: >Pasi qe askush nuk u pergjigj se cila eshte SHF Elena Gjika, po e bej >pyetjen tjeter, cila eshte SHF Faik Konica? Pasi qe drejtor eshte Abaz >Rrecaj, e ky me ka dhene shqip ne shkollen fillore "Aca Maroviq", atehere >besoj se kjo eshte shkolla e njejte me emrin e ri... Po, Etrit, "Aca Maroviqi" tash quhet "Faik Konica". Kete shkolle e kane marre me te mire nderkombetaret (me duket organizatat cifute), e kane ndreqe si brenda ashtu edhe jashte (edhe kopshtin e kane rregullu!), tash edhe kompjutera po i falin... Tung. From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 3 22:38:47 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:38:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] SHF Faik Konica In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > Po, Etrit, "Aca Maroviqi" tash quhet "Faik Konica". > > Kete shkolle e kane marre me te mire nderkombetaret (me duket organizatat > cifute), e kane ndreqe si brenda ashtu edhe jashte (edhe kopshtin e kane > rregullu!), tash edhe kompjutera po i falin... Ne si 'Alumni' a mund t'i perdorim keta kompjutera me u lidhe ne internet kur te kthehemi per vizite? ;) Etriti. > > Tung. > From UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com Wed Nov 3 23:55:54 1999 From: UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com (UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:55:54 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] SHF Faik Konica Message-ID: <0.5c8713da.25526bda@aol.com> etrit, po nese mirret parasyesh mesatarja e notave gjat shkolles fillore, atehere nuk e di se a ke me pas mundesi ti perdoresh kompjuterat !! lol engjelli From ssander at ans.net Thu Nov 4 10:15:48 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:15:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] SHF Faik Konica In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bravo...shume po gezohem qe me ne fund po na japin doren edhe shtete tjera, edhe shpresoj se gjeneratat qe vijojne, per njemend e shfrytezojne kete ndihme ne favpr te vet dhe te kombit.. GEZUAR!~ :) - Sander On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > At 7:57 PM -0500 11/3/99, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > >Pasi qe askush nuk u pergjigj se cila eshte SHF Elena Gjika, po e bej > >pyetjen tjeter, cila eshte SHF Faik Konica? Pasi qe drejtor eshte Abaz > >Rrecaj, e ky me ka dhene shqip ne shkollen fillore "Aca Maroviq", atehere > >besoj se kjo eshte shkolla e njejte me emrin e ri... > > Po, Etrit, "Aca Maroviqi" tash quhet "Faik Konica". > > Kete shkolle e kane marre me te mire nderkombetaret (me duket organizatat > cifute), e kane ndreqe si brenda ashtu edhe jashte (edhe kopshtin e kane > rregullu!), tash edhe kompjutera po i falin... > > Tung. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Thu Nov 4 13:14:05 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:14:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Artikull mjafte i vrazhde, mirepo cdo kush e ka te drejten e te shprehurit. I vetmi send qe me rrenqeth eshte ku autori shkruan se "Ata q nuk ngurrojn t shkelin mbi gjakun e atyre q e kan br lirin n Kosov dhe q fyejn rnd esencn dhe shpirtin shqiptar do t duhet ta din se mund t jen edhe pre e ndonj hakmarrjeje eventuale dhe fare t kuptueshme, prandaj as Veton Surroi e as Baton Haxhiu, kta mafioz ordiner, nuk do t duhej t mbeteshin pa u ndshkuar pr veprat e tyre kriminale, pasi idiotizmat e tyre ndihmojn kryekriminelin serb Sllobodan Millosheviq." Kjo mund te mirret nga dikush si drite e gjelbert per hakmarrje. Etriti. On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > Ky eshte artikulli ne fjale... > > > Mendjet e rob?ruara n? Kosov?n e lir? > ? > Prishtin?, 2 tetor (Kosovapress-Merxhan Avdyli) > > Botuesi i t? p?rditshmes ?Koha ditore?, Veton Surroi, i cili ?sht? edhe > an?tar i t? ashtuquajturit K?shilli Transitor i Kosov?s, t? udh?hequr nga > administratori i huaj p?r Kosov?n, Bernar Kushner, dit? m? par? e ka > kualifikuar shoq?rin? shqiptare n? Kosov? si shoq?ri me elemente t? > fashizmit. > > P?r elementet fashiste, t? cilat ai si nuhat?s dhe mblla?it?s i m?suar p?r > t?i kall?zuar serb?ve, t? cilat kinse i ka hetuar tash, po u kall?zon t? > huajve, duke u serviluar, sigurisht p?r ta piedestuar veten diku n? majat e > pushtetit civil nd?rkomb?tar n? Kosov?. K?t? vler?sim e ka p?rs?ritur Veton > Surroi disaher?, por p?r fatin e tij t? keq, gjithnj? pa sukses. Veton > Surroi, jo nj?her?, koh?ve t? fundit, si zakon q? e ka pas? spiunimin, > dikur te serb?t, e tash ku t? mundet, ka kall?zuar, duke d?shmuar rrejsh?m > se kinse shqiptar?t po hakmerren kolektivisht ndaj minoritar?ve serb? t? > Kosov?s. > > Edhe v?llai i tij i mendjes dhe i ideologjis?, Baton Haxhiu, i cili > nj?herit ?sht? kryeredaktor i gazet?s s? Veton Surroit, q? ?sht? nj? > puthak?mb? serb sui generis, nuk ngurron t? mblla?is? tirada t? tilla > surroiste, t? sajuara nga v?llez?rit e tyre serb?. Baton Haxhiu i cili > b?rtet dhe b?rlyket kund?r klas?s s? re politike n? Kosov?, kund?r > luft?tar?ve t? liris?, nuk ?sht? m? pak vetues sllav?, sepse b?rtima dhe > b?rlykja e tij b?hen edhe kund?r liris? s? Kosov?s. B?rlykja e tij sllave, > e dal? nga mania e tij e njohur, duket se k?saj radhe ?sht? tejet > shfrenuese dhe si e till? nuk do t? duhej t? mbetej n? harres?. Akuzat e > tij ndaj qeveritar?ve t? tash?m dhe ndaj U?K-s?, n? nj? revist? gjermane, > tejkalojn? urrejtjen njer?zore dhe kalojn? n? delirin idiotesk, q? patjet?r > nxit kund?rveprimin dhe t? fut n? shtjell?n p?r t?iu kund?rv?n? merituesh?m. > > Vet?timat e vazhdueshme serbe t? Veton Surroit dhe b?rtimat e b?rlykjet e > pandalshme t? Baton Haxhiut, t? l?shuara ndaj shoq?ris? shqiptare n? > Kosov?, shoq?ri kjo e cila edhe pse ka arritur t? ravij?zoj? p?rmasat e > liris?, po p?rballet me p?rpjekjet e m?dha p?r ta nd?rtuar jet?n e vet dhe > p?r ta origjinalizuar shoq?rin? shqiptare n? Kosov?, vijn? n? koh?n kur > Kosova p?rfundimisht ia ka th?n? lamtumir?n rob?ris? dhe e ka sip?rfaq?suar > lirin?. Nuk ?sht? as e rastit as e ?uditshme q? kjo k?rkes? synuese p?r ta > b?r? jet?n jasht? kornizave rob?ruese dhe t? liruar nga vet?dija e robit, > do t? has? n? pengesa, ve?an?risht nga konfident?t e deridjesh?m serb?, t? > tipit t? Veton Surroit, apo t? Baton Haxhiut, e shqipfol?sve t? tjer? > degjenerik? dhe t? ?nd?rrimtar?ve t? ngjash?m proserb?. > > Por t? ndalemi te vet?timat konkrete proserbe, m? shkoqur > promillosheviqiane t? gospodin Veton Surroit, p?r t?u ndalur pastaj edhe te > idiotizmat e gospodinit tjet?r Baton Haxhiu. > > Kualifikimi i Veton Surroit se n? Kosov? kemi t? b?jm? me elemente fashiste > te shqiptar?t, i ngjan kualifikimit t? dikursh?m politik t? ngjarjeve t? > tet?dhjetenj?shit, si ngjarje kund?rrevolucionare, kualifikim ky i > mblla?itur qen?e nga komunist?t jugosllav? me prejardhje shqiptare, pasojat > e t? cilit dihen. > > Kualifikimi i Veton Surroit p?r elementet fashiste n? shoq?rin? shqiptare, > s?do mend se kut?rbon er? sllave, madje at? e ka theksuar gjasuesh?m me > idiotizmin sheshelian, prandaj si i till? ai do t? ket? pasoja negative, > natyrisht duke e pas? parasysh edhe disponimin antishqiptar t? nj? pjese t? > bashk?sis? nd?rkomb?tare si Rusia, Kina. > > Reflektimi i kualifikimeve t? Veton Surroit, p?r elementet fashiste n? > shoq?rin? shqiptare, ka shkuar deri te p?rkrahja q? iu dha atij nga > kriminel?t promillosheviqian?, t? cil?t gjenden n? kuvendin e shtetit fqinj > t? Kosov?s, Mal t? Zi, me ??rast nj? deputet i partis? s? kriminelit > Bullatoviq, k?rkoi n? nj? seanc? t? kuvendit t? Malit t? Zi q? deput?t > shqiptar? t? Malit t? Zi t? deklarohen ashtu si? mendon Veton Surroi. Meq? > ata nuk e b?n? k?t?, rr?muja e krijuar n? kuvend b?ri q? q? t? nd?rpritet > seanca. Gjithashtu me nj? kualifikim t? till? nuk ?sht? pajtuar, madje as > zoti Karl Bild, kur n? nj? konferenc? shtypi ?sht? pyetur se a ka fashiz?m > n? shoq?rin? shqiptare t? Kosov?s, ai ka qeshur dhe ?sht? p?rgjigjur me > lakoniz?m, duke shtuar se sigurisht mendohet n? vler?simet e Veton Surroit > dhe natyrisht q? ka deklaruar se nuk di p?r fashizmin shqiptar. Me > kualifikimet e Veton Surroit dhe t? Baton Haxhiut, nd?rkaq jan? pajtuar > plot?sisht mjetet serbe t? informacionit dhe politikan?t serb? t? tipit t? > kriminel?ve Millosheviq, Sheshel e t? ngjash?m, duke i elozhuar ata dhe > pik?pamjet e tyre, q? sipas serb?ve vijn? nga ?umerena struja poshtenih > shiptara?. > > Tentativa e vampirizimit t? nostalgjik?ve prosllav? si Veton Surroi, Baton > Haxhiu e kompani, q? mjerisht nuk jan? t? vetmit shqiptar? q? ende i shohin > ?ndrrat serbisht, nuk ?sht? e panjohur as nuk do t? p?rfundoj? me krijimin > e jet?s s? lir? n? Kosov?. Ndjeshm?ria prosllave e tyre ende do t? > kut?rboj?. Ani pse me finok?ri ajo do t? paraqitet kinse e bazuar n? > prirjet e qytetaris? toleruese. Nd?rsa ky vampirizim m? s? shumti i ndihmon > politik?s s? kryekriminelit serb Sllobodan Millosheviq, i cili gjithmon? do > t? mb?shtetet n? shqiptar?t me prirje proserbe. > > Akuzat e Surroit se klasa e tashme politike n? Kosov? po heshtka ndaj > veprimeve hakmarr?se ?sht? nj? akuz? q? vjen nga njeriu, shpirti i shitur i > t? cilit nuk mund t? rri qet? pa goditur pik?n m? t? ndejshme komb?tare. > T?rthorazi kjo ?sht? nj? goditje q? ai u jep luft?tar?ve t? liris?, madje > edhe atyre q? kan? r?n? p?r lirin? q? sot n? Prishtin? e g?zojn? Veton > Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe gjith? llumi tjet?r bastard i sojit t? tyre, q? > mjerisht jan? t? stisur nga gjaku shqiptar, ose s? paku jan? t? deklaruar > si t? till?, pasi proserb?ve nuk u dihet sakt? as origjina. > > Vajtimi serb i Veton Surroit, si dhe ato t? Baton Haxhiut, vijn? n? koh?n > m? t? p?rshatshme p?r kriminel?t serb?, kur tezat e tyre lidhen mrekullisht > dhe serbisht me tezat e kriminelit m? t? urryer n? bot?, antishqiptarit dhe > antinjeriut Sllobodan Millosheviq dhe gjith? rrethit t? tij monstruoz, nga > aspekti i veprimit politik dhe t? dyshimt? nga aspekti moral e njer?zor. > Askush nuk mund t?ua ndaloj? gospodin?ve Surroi dhe Haxhiu, vampir?ve > proserb?, q? nj?her? qen? vet?shpallur t? vdekur, p?r t? cil?t ka t? dh?na > se gjat? bombardimeve t? NATO-s jan? ndihmuar nga paramilitar?t serb?, t? > fyejn? ndjenjat komb?tare t? liridash?sve shqiptar?, por ata kur ta marrin > at? turr serb ndaj shqiptar?ve do t? ishte e ndershme, qoft? nga aspekti > politik, qoft? nga aspekti njer?zor q? t? pozicionohen mir?, hapur dhe > shkoqur, e t? tregoj? prirjet e tyre antishqiptare, kur hetohet pozicioni i > tyre sllav, q? ?sht? i mir?pritur nga garda politike antishqiptare, q? nuk > ?sht? e pakt? as n? misionin e tash?m civil nd?rkomb?tar n? Kosov?, > udh?heq?s i t? cilit ?sht? konfuzi Bernar Kushner. > > Servilizmi ndaj serb?ve i nj? pjese t? pseidopolitikan?ve me prejardhje > shqiptare nga Kosova, si Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu, ka qen? dhe vazhdon > t? mbetet pengesa kryesore e zhvilimit t? proceseve pavar?sore t? > shqiptar?ve, pasi bro?kullat e tyre, sipas recetave sllave, t? pjekura n? > vet?dijen e tyre, kan? shkaktuar pasoja t? m?dha, duke e d?mtuar r?nd? > zgjidhjen e ??shtjes shqiptare. > > Veton Surroi dhe t? gjith? vetuesit sllav? dhe surrojt? e tjer? shqiptar? > mundohen t? paraqiten kinse tolerant?, thuajse ata jan? p?rgjegj?s t? b?jn? > nj? gj? t? till?, thuajse ata jan? t? prekur nga hakmarrja. Mbase edhe jan? > t? prekur nga hakmarrja, e cila edhe ashtu nuk ?sht? n? asnj? m?nyr? aso > p?rmasash, si? i shquajn? Veton Surroi apo Baton Haxhiu. > > Hakmarrja shqiptare n? aspektin luftarak, madje edhe psikologjik, e ka > arritur q?llimin e saj me faktin se luft?tar?t shqiptar? t? liris? ia kan? > kthyer pushk?n okupator?ve serb?, miqve t? shenjt? t? Veton Surroit dhe t? > Baton Haxhiut, vaji i t? cil?ve mund t? kuptohet. Mir?po ata edhe tash mund > t? jen? lirisht miq t? serb?ve, por n? asnj? m?nyr? duke e fyer gjakun e > luft?rar?ve t? r?n? t? liris?. N?se ka vrasje t? serb?ve n? Kosov?, si? ka > edhe vrasje t? shqiptar?ve, t? cilat Vetonit dhe Batonit u duken normale. > pasi problemin e hakmarrjes s? shpifur nga prizmi i tyre e shohin nga > poziconi i politik?s millosheviqiane, nuk ?sht? n? asnj? m?nyr? deformitet > kolektiv i shqiptar?ve, por ai para se gjthash ?sht? shprehje e nj? > urrjetjeje t? grumbulluar gjat? koh? te nj? pjes? e shqiptar?ve nga > vuajtjet e t? cil?ve Veton Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe soji e sorollopi i tyre > kan? p?rfituar bashk? me gjith? dashamir?sit e tyre serb? n? Kosov?. > Hakmarrjet e tilla, n?se ekzitojn?, natyrisht se nuk jan? t? pranueshme, > por ato n? aspektin psikologjik dhe njer?zor jan? t? kuptueshme. Pastaj nj? > pjes? t? veprimeve t? tilla t? cilat Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu ia > ngarkojn? edhe klas?s s? tashme politike n? Kosov?, duke aluduar n? > ushtar?t e Ushtris? ?lirimtare t? Kosov?s, madje edhe duke i akuzuar ata si > element? fashist? n? shoq?rin? shqiptare, dyshohet se i kan? kryer > pik?risht bashk?mendimtar?t e Veton Surroit, t? Baton Haxhiut dhe > dashamir?sit e tyre me q?llim t? komprometimit t? klas?s s? re politike dhe > t? krahut komb?tar t? shqiptar?ve t? Kosov?s. K?t? duhet ta din? edhe Veton > Surroi edhe Baton Haxhiu dhe t? gjith? puthak?mb?t e tjer? t? serb?ve, t? > cil?t t? bazuar n? fjalorin e tyre antishqiptar kan? mundur edhe vet? t? > organizojn? kryerjen e veprimeve t? tilla, gjithnj? sipas recetave t? > serb?ve. Prandaj, nuk ?sht? e ?uditshme q? kopuk?t politik?, si Veton > Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu, t? jen? vet? nxit?sit dhe kryesit e veprimeve t? > ndryshme, pasi duket se jan? t? prirur t? b?jn? veprime t? tilla, duke u > bazuar edhe n? pedigret? e tyre proserbe dhe komuniste. Ata q? nuk > ngurrojn? t? shkelin mbi gjakun e atyre q? e kan? b?r? lirin? n? Kosov? dhe > q? fyejn? r?nd? esenc?n dhe shpirtin shqiptar do t? duhet ta din? se mund > t? jen? edhe pre e ndonj? hakmarrjeje eventuale dhe fare t? kuptueshme, > prandaj as Veton Surroi e as Baton Haxhiu, k?ta mafioz? ordiner?, nuk do t? > duhej t? mbeteshin pa u nd?shkuar p?r veprat e tyre kriminale, pasi > idiotizmat e tyre ndihmojn? kryekriminelin serb Sllobodan Millosheviq. Dhe, > duhet ta dijn? q? t? dyt? bashk? me t? gjith? anishqiptar?t e tjer? se as > vet? Millosheviqi i cili ?sht? akuzuar bot?risht, nga Gjykata Nd?komb?tare > e Hag?s, si kriminel lufte nuk ka vrar? me dor?n e tij asnj? njeri, asnj? > shqiptar, por ?sht? kryekrimineli vet?, q? vendin e ka n? Hag?. Veton > Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe ndihm?sit e tjer? t? kriminel?ve serb?, ndoshta > nuk e kan? vendin n? radh?t e para t? bang?s s? zez? t? Gjyqit t? Hag?s, > por n? nj?r?n prej radh?ve gjithsesi, si? po ia b?jn? nga aspekti moral > vetes vendin n? plehun e historis?. Ndryshe n? shoq?rin? shqiptare do t? > kut?rboj? gjithmon? era e polik?s sllave, e cila u nd?shkua merituesh?m nga > Aleanca Veriatlantike. > > Deklaratat denoncuese kund?r shqiptar?ve t? Veton Surroit dhe t? Baton > Haxhiut, n? dobi t? politik?s kriminele serbe, sigurisht nuk do t? mund ta > zhb?jn? lirin? e arritur t? Kosov?s. Mir?po, kriminel?t e till? dhe mendjet > e tilla t? rob?ruara, nuk duhet t? ken? vend n? Kosov?n e lir?. From ramis39 at hotmail.com Thu Nov 4 13:43:43 1999 From: ramis39 at hotmail.com (Ramis Ahmetaj) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:43:43 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Kosovapress-i? Message-ID: <19991104184344.99935.qmail@hotmail.com> Pajtohem me Etritin, se cdokush ka te drejten e shprehjes. Por ky artikul, sipas mendimit tim tejkalom dukshem kufirin e gazetarise, sepse nuk ka kurrfare vecorie komenti apo lajmerimi, por te binde se lexon ndonje fletushke propagandistike, e jo lajm agjensie to pavarur. Kurse sa i perket komentit te Surroit, besoj se eshte dukshem e qarte se ai koment figuron negativisht ne pershtypjet nderkombetare lidhur me kauzen shqiptare, dhe eshte ironike se si Surroi, perfaqesues i po asaj kauze, merr guxim te shprehet publikisht ne lidhje me kete. Nese ai eshte i mendimit se ne Kosove me te vertete egziston nje klime aq e forte fashiste, sa ai eshte befasuar me kete, atehere si mund te perfaqesoj ai popullin i cili ka adaptuar kete menyre jete? >From: Etrit Bardhi >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: Albanian List >CC: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Kosovapress-i? >Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:14:05 -0500 (EST) > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > >Artikull mjafte i vrazhde, mirepo cdo kush e ka te drejten e te >shprehurit. I vetmi send qe me rrenqeth eshte ku autori shkruan se "Ata q >nuk ngurrojn t shkelin mbi gjakun e atyre q e kan br lirin n Kosov dhe >q fyejn rnd esencn dhe shpirtin shqiptar do t duhet ta din se mund >t jen edhe pre e ndonj hakmarrjeje eventuale dhe fare t kuptueshme, >prandaj as Veton Surroi e as Baton Haxhiu, kta mafioz ordiner, nuk do t >duhej t mbeteshin pa u ndshkuar pr veprat e tyre kriminale, pasi >idiotizmat e tyre ndihmojn kryekriminelin serb Sllobodan Millosheviq." > >Kjo mund te mirret nga dikush si drite e gjelbert per hakmarrje. > >Etriti. > >On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > > > Ky eshte artikulli ne fjale... > > > > > > Mendjet e rob?ruara n? Kosov?n e lir? > > ? > > Prishtin?, 2 tetor (Kosovapress-Merxhan Avdyli) > > > > Botuesi i t? p?rditshmes ?Koha ditore?, Veton Surroi, i cili ?sht? edhe > > an?tar i t? ashtuquajturit K?shilli Transitor i Kosov?s, t? udh?hequr >nga > > administratori i huaj p?r Kosov?n, Bernar Kushner, dit? m? par? e ka > > kualifikuar shoq?rin? shqiptare n? Kosov? si shoq?ri me elemente t? > > fashizmit. > > > > P?r elementet fashiste, t? cilat ai si nuhat?s dhe mblla?it?s i m?suar >p?r > > t?i kall?zuar serb?ve, t? cilat kinse i ka hetuar tash, po u kall?zon t? > > huajve, duke u serviluar, sigurisht p?r ta piedestuar veten diku n? >majat e > > pushtetit civil nd?rkomb?tar n? Kosov?. K?t? vler?sim e ka p?rs?ritur >Veton > > Surroi disaher?, por p?r fatin e tij t? keq, gjithnj? pa sukses. Veton > > Surroi, jo nj?her?, koh?ve t? fundit, si zakon q? e ka pas? spiunimin, > > dikur te serb?t, e tash ku t? mundet, ka kall?zuar, duke d?shmuar >rrejsh?m > > se kinse shqiptar?t po hakmerren kolektivisht ndaj minoritar?ve serb? t? > > Kosov?s. > > > > Edhe v?llai i tij i mendjes dhe i ideologjis?, Baton Haxhiu, i cili > > nj?herit ?sht? kryeredaktor i gazet?s s? Veton Surroit, q? ?sht? nj? > > puthak?mb? serb sui generis, nuk ngurron t? mblla?is? tirada t? tilla > > surroiste, t? sajuara nga v?llez?rit e tyre serb?. Baton Haxhiu i cili > > b?rtet dhe b?rlyket kund?r klas?s s? re politike n? Kosov?, kund?r > > luft?tar?ve t? liris?, nuk ?sht? m? pak vetues sllav?, sepse b?rtima dhe > > b?rlykja e tij b?hen edhe kund?r liris? s? Kosov?s. B?rlykja e tij >sllave, > > e dal? nga mania e tij e njohur, duket se k?saj radhe ?sht? tejet > > shfrenuese dhe si e till? nuk do t? duhej t? mbetej n? harres?. Akuzat e > > tij ndaj qeveritar?ve t? tash?m dhe ndaj U?K-s?, n? nj? revist? >gjermane, > > tejkalojn? urrejtjen njer?zore dhe kalojn? n? delirin idiotesk, q? >patjet?r > > nxit kund?rveprimin dhe t? fut n? shtjell?n p?r t?iu kund?rv?n? >merituesh?m. > > > > Vet?timat e vazhdueshme serbe t? Veton Surroit dhe b?rtimat e b?rlykjet >e > > pandalshme t? Baton Haxhiut, t? l?shuara ndaj shoq?ris? shqiptare n? > > Kosov?, shoq?ri kjo e cila edhe pse ka arritur t? ravij?zoj? p?rmasat e > > liris?, po p?rballet me p?rpjekjet e m?dha p?r ta nd?rtuar jet?n e vet >dhe > > p?r ta origjinalizuar shoq?rin? shqiptare n? Kosov?, vijn? n? koh?n kur > > Kosova p?rfundimisht ia ka th?n? lamtumir?n rob?ris? dhe e ka >sip?rfaq?suar > > lirin?. Nuk ?sht? as e rastit as e ?uditshme q? kjo k?rkes? synuese p?r >ta > > b?r? jet?n jasht? kornizave rob?ruese dhe t? liruar nga vet?dija e >robit, > > do t? has? n? pengesa, ve?an?risht nga konfident?t e deridjesh?m serb?, >t? > > tipit t? Veton Surroit, apo t? Baton Haxhiut, e shqipfol?sve t? tjer? > > degjenerik? dhe t? ?nd?rrimtar?ve t? ngjash?m proserb?. > > > > Por t? ndalemi te vet?timat konkrete proserbe, m? shkoqur > > promillosheviqiane t? gospodin Veton Surroit, p?r t?u ndalur pastaj edhe >te > > idiotizmat e gospodinit tjet?r Baton Haxhiu. > > > > Kualifikimi i Veton Surroit se n? Kosov? kemi t? b?jm? me elemente >fashiste > > te shqiptar?t, i ngjan kualifikimit t? dikursh?m politik t? ngjarjeve t? > > tet?dhjetenj?shit, si ngjarje kund?rrevolucionare, kualifikim ky i > > mblla?itur qen?e nga komunist?t jugosllav? me prejardhje shqiptare, >pasojat > > e t? cilit dihen. > > > > Kualifikimi i Veton Surroit p?r elementet fashiste n? shoq?rin? >shqiptare, > > s?do mend se kut?rbon er? sllave, madje at? e ka theksuar gjasuesh?m me > > idiotizmin sheshelian, prandaj si i till? ai do t? ket? pasoja negative, > > natyrisht duke e pas? parasysh edhe disponimin antishqiptar t? nj? pjese >t? > > bashk?sis? nd?rkomb?tare si Rusia, Kina. > > > > Reflektimi i kualifikimeve t? Veton Surroit, p?r elementet fashiste n? > > shoq?rin? shqiptare, ka shkuar deri te p?rkrahja q? iu dha atij nga > > kriminel?t promillosheviqian?, t? cil?t gjenden n? kuvendin e shtetit >fqinj > > t? Kosov?s, Mal t? Zi, me ??rast nj? deputet i partis? s? kriminelit > > Bullatoviq, k?rkoi n? nj? seanc? t? kuvendit t? Malit t? Zi q? deput?t > > shqiptar? t? Malit t? Zi t? deklarohen ashtu si? mendon Veton Surroi. >Meq? > > ata nuk e b?n? k?t?, rr?muja e krijuar n? kuvend b?ri q? q? t? >nd?rpritet > > seanca. Gjithashtu me nj? kualifikim t? till? nuk ?sht? pajtuar, madje >as > > zoti Karl Bild, kur n? nj? konferenc? shtypi ?sht? pyetur se a ka >fashiz?m > > n? shoq?rin? shqiptare t? Kosov?s, ai ka qeshur dhe ?sht? p?rgjigjur me > > lakoniz?m, duke shtuar se sigurisht mendohet n? vler?simet e Veton >Surroit > > dhe natyrisht q? ka deklaruar se nuk di p?r fashizmin shqiptar. Me > > kualifikimet e Veton Surroit dhe t? Baton Haxhiut, nd?rkaq jan? pajtuar > > plot?sisht mjetet serbe t? informacionit dhe politikan?t serb? t? tipit >t? > > kriminel?ve Millosheviq, Sheshel e t? ngjash?m, duke i elozhuar ata dhe > > pik?pamjet e tyre, q? sipas serb?ve vijn? nga ?umerena struja poshtenih > > shiptara?. > > > > Tentativa e vampirizimit t? nostalgjik?ve prosllav? si Veton Surroi, >Baton > > Haxhiu e kompani, q? mjerisht nuk jan? t? vetmit shqiptar? q? ende i >shohin > > ?ndrrat serbisht, nuk ?sht? e panjohur as nuk do t? p?rfundoj? me >krijimin > > e jet?s s? lir? n? Kosov?. Ndjeshm?ria prosllave e tyre ende do t? > > kut?rboj?. Ani pse me finok?ri ajo do t? paraqitet kinse e bazuar n? > > prirjet e qytetaris? toleruese. Nd?rsa ky vampirizim m? s? shumti i >ndihmon > > politik?s s? kryekriminelit serb Sllobodan Millosheviq, i cili gjithmon? >do > > t? mb?shtetet n? shqiptar?t me prirje proserbe. > > > > Akuzat e Surroit se klasa e tashme politike n? Kosov? po heshtka ndaj > > veprimeve hakmarr?se ?sht? nj? akuz? q? vjen nga njeriu, shpirti i >shitur i > > t? cilit nuk mund t? rri qet? pa goditur pik?n m? t? ndejshme komb?tare. > > T?rthorazi kjo ?sht? nj? goditje q? ai u jep luft?tar?ve t? liris?, >madje > > edhe atyre q? kan? r?n? p?r lirin? q? sot n? Prishtin? e g?zojn? Veton > > Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe gjith? llumi tjet?r bastard i sojit t? tyre, q? > > mjerisht jan? t? stisur nga gjaku shqiptar, ose s? paku jan? t? >deklaruar > > si t? till?, pasi proserb?ve nuk u dihet sakt? as origjina. > > > > Vajtimi serb i Veton Surroit, si dhe ato t? Baton Haxhiut, vijn? n? >koh?n > > m? t? p?rshatshme p?r kriminel?t serb?, kur tezat e tyre lidhen >mrekullisht > > dhe serbisht me tezat e kriminelit m? t? urryer n? bot?, antishqiptarit >dhe > > antinjeriut Sllobodan Millosheviq dhe gjith? rrethit t? tij monstruoz, >nga > > aspekti i veprimit politik dhe t? dyshimt? nga aspekti moral e njer?zor. > > Askush nuk mund t?ua ndaloj? gospodin?ve Surroi dhe Haxhiu, vampir?ve > > proserb?, q? nj?her? qen? vet?shpallur t? vdekur, p?r t? cil?t ka t? >dh?na > > se gjat? bombardimeve t? NATO-s jan? ndihmuar nga paramilitar?t serb?, >t? > > fyejn? ndjenjat komb?tare t? liridash?sve shqiptar?, por ata kur ta >marrin > > at? turr serb ndaj shqiptar?ve do t? ishte e ndershme, qoft? nga aspekti > > politik, qoft? nga aspekti njer?zor q? t? pozicionohen mir?, hapur dhe > > shkoqur, e t? tregoj? prirjet e tyre antishqiptare, kur hetohet >pozicioni i > > tyre sllav, q? ?sht? i mir?pritur nga garda politike antishqiptare, q? >nuk > > ?sht? e pakt? as n? misionin e tash?m civil nd?rkomb?tar n? Kosov?, > > udh?heq?s i t? cilit ?sht? konfuzi Bernar Kushner. > > > > Servilizmi ndaj serb?ve i nj? pjese t? pseidopolitikan?ve me prejardhje > > shqiptare nga Kosova, si Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu, ka qen? dhe >vazhdon > > t? mbetet pengesa kryesore e zhvilimit t? proceseve pavar?sore t? > > shqiptar?ve, pasi bro?kullat e tyre, sipas recetave sllave, t? pjekura >n? > > vet?dijen e tyre, kan? shkaktuar pasoja t? m?dha, duke e d?mtuar r?nd? > > zgjidhjen e ??shtjes shqiptare. > > > > Veton Surroi dhe t? gjith? vetuesit sllav? dhe surrojt? e tjer? >shqiptar? > > mundohen t? paraqiten kinse tolerant?, thuajse ata jan? p?rgjegj?s t? >b?jn? > > nj? gj? t? till?, thuajse ata jan? t? prekur nga hakmarrja. Mbase edhe >jan? > > t? prekur nga hakmarrja, e cila edhe ashtu nuk ?sht? n? asnj? m?nyr? aso > > p?rmasash, si? i shquajn? Veton Surroi apo Baton Haxhiu. > > > > Hakmarrja shqiptare n? aspektin luftarak, madje edhe psikologjik, e ka > > arritur q?llimin e saj me faktin se luft?tar?t shqiptar? t? liris? ia >kan? > > kthyer pushk?n okupator?ve serb?, miqve t? shenjt? t? Veton Surroit dhe >t? > > Baton Haxhiut, vaji i t? cil?ve mund t? kuptohet. Mir?po ata edhe tash >mund > > t? jen? lirisht miq t? serb?ve, por n? asnj? m?nyr? duke e fyer gjakun e > > luft?rar?ve t? r?n? t? liris?. N?se ka vrasje t? serb?ve n? Kosov?, si? >ka > > edhe vrasje t? shqiptar?ve, t? cilat Vetonit dhe Batonit u duken >normale. > > pasi problemin e hakmarrjes s? shpifur nga prizmi i tyre e shohin nga > > poziconi i politik?s millosheviqiane, nuk ?sht? n? asnj? m?nyr? >deformitet > > kolektiv i shqiptar?ve, por ai para se gjthash ?sht? shprehje e nj? > > urrjetjeje t? grumbulluar gjat? koh? te nj? pjes? e shqiptar?ve nga > > vuajtjet e t? cil?ve Veton Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe soji e sorollopi i >tyre > > kan? p?rfituar bashk? me gjith? dashamir?sit e tyre serb? n? Kosov?. > > Hakmarrjet e tilla, n?se ekzitojn?, natyrisht se nuk jan? t? pranueshme, > > por ato n? aspektin psikologjik dhe njer?zor jan? t? kuptueshme. Pastaj >nj? > > pjes? t? veprimeve t? tilla t? cilat Veton Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu ia > > ngarkojn? edhe klas?s s? tashme politike n? Kosov?, duke aluduar n? > > ushtar?t e Ushtris? ?lirimtare t? Kosov?s, madje edhe duke i akuzuar ata >si > > element? fashist? n? shoq?rin? shqiptare, dyshohet se i kan? kryer > > pik?risht bashk?mendimtar?t e Veton Surroit, t? Baton Haxhiut dhe > > dashamir?sit e tyre me q?llim t? komprometimit t? klas?s s? re politike >dhe > > t? krahut komb?tar t? shqiptar?ve t? Kosov?s. K?t? duhet ta din? edhe >Veton > > Surroi edhe Baton Haxhiu dhe t? gjith? puthak?mb?t e tjer? t? serb?ve, >t? > > cil?t t? bazuar n? fjalorin e tyre antishqiptar kan? mundur edhe vet? t? > > organizojn? kryerjen e veprimeve t? tilla, gjithnj? sipas recetave t? > > serb?ve. Prandaj, nuk ?sht? e ?uditshme q? kopuk?t politik?, si Veton > > Surroi dhe Baton Haxhiu, t? jen? vet? nxit?sit dhe kryesit e veprimeve >t? > > ndryshme, pasi duket se jan? t? prirur t? b?jn? veprime t? tilla, duke u > > bazuar edhe n? pedigret? e tyre proserbe dhe komuniste. Ata q? nuk > > ngurrojn? t? shkelin mbi gjakun e atyre q? e kan? b?r? lirin? n? Kosov? >dhe > > q? fyejn? r?nd? esenc?n dhe shpirtin shqiptar do t? duhet ta din? se >mund > > t? jen? edhe pre e ndonj? hakmarrjeje eventuale dhe fare t? kuptueshme, > > prandaj as Veton Surroi e as Baton Haxhiu, k?ta mafioz? ordiner?, nuk do >t? > > duhej t? mbeteshin pa u nd?shkuar p?r veprat e tyre kriminale, pasi > > idiotizmat e tyre ndihmojn? kryekriminelin serb Sllobodan Millosheviq. >Dhe, > > duhet ta dijn? q? t? dyt? bashk? me t? gjith? anishqiptar?t e tjer? se >as > > vet? Millosheviqi i cili ?sht? akuzuar bot?risht, nga Gjykata >Nd?komb?tare > > e Hag?s, si kriminel lufte nuk ka vrar? me dor?n e tij asnj? njeri, >asnj? > > shqiptar, por ?sht? kryekrimineli vet?, q? vendin e ka n? Hag?. Veton > > Surroi, Baton Haxhiu dhe ndihm?sit e tjer? t? kriminel?ve serb?, ndoshta > > nuk e kan? vendin n? radh?t e para t? bang?s s? zez? t? Gjyqit t? Hag?s, > > por n? nj?r?n prej radh?ve gjithsesi, si? po ia b?jn? nga aspekti moral > > vetes vendin n? plehun e historis?. Ndryshe n? shoq?rin? shqiptare do t? > > kut?rboj? gjithmon? era e polik?s sllave, e cila u nd?shkua merituesh?m >nga > > Aleanca Veriatlantike. > > > > Deklaratat denoncuese kund?r shqiptar?ve t? Veton Surroit dhe t? Baton > > Haxhiut, n? dobi t? politik?s kriminele serbe, sigurisht nuk do t? mund >ta > > zhb?jn? lirin? e arritur t? Kosov?s. Mir?po, kriminel?t e till? dhe >mendjet > > e tilla t? rob?ruara, nuk duhet t? ken? vend n? Kosov?n e lir?. > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Thu Nov 4 13:54:03 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:54:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [ALBANIAN] Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: <3821C8AF.9F2A0427@idt.net> Message-ID: Mendimi im eshte se edhe pse autoret mbajne pergjegjesi individuale, edhe editoret e kane pergjegjesine e tyre, p.sh. kur gazeta The New York Times e botoi nje artikull teper fyes ndaj shqiptareve nga autori Chris Hedges, pas ankeses se Z. Barend Cohen dhe te tjereve, editori i gazetes lypi falje dhe e morri edhe ai pergjegjesine... Mund te jem gabim... Etriti. On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Haxhi Haxhaj wrote: > I nderuari Z Bardhi ja k?tu ke nj? artikull t? Kosovapress-it t? dat?s 4 tetor > 1999 dhe me titullin si vijon: > > Sqarim i agjencis? s? lajmeve Kosovapress lidhur me reagimin e gazet?s ?Koha ditore? > ndaj shkrimit t? Merxhan Avdylit t? botuar m? 2.10.1999 nga agjencia jon? > > Prishtin?, 4 tetor 1999 (Kosovapress) > > Agjencia e lajmeve Kosovapress ?sht? institucion informativ i hapur p?r t? gjith? ata > q? prononcohen p?r probleme t? ndryshme, t? cilat preokupojn? shoq?rin? kosovare. Ajo > ka qen?, ?sht? dhe do t? jet? e hapur edhe p?r mendime t? kund?rta, si? ?sht? e > paanshme ndaj ?do grupacioni politik. Ka qen? e hapur edhe ndaj z.Surroi kur kemi > l?shuar artikullin e tij, n? t? cilin shoq?rin? kosovare e kualifikonte si fashiste. > Kemi l?shuar artikullin e z.Haxhiu, ku p?r U?K-n? ka deklaruar se ajo ?sht? mafi, > nd?rsa politikan?t kosovar? i quan gorilla. Lexuesi shqiptar me k?ta artikuj ?sht? > njohur n?p?rmjet gazet?s ?Rilindja? n?n firm?n e Kosovapress-it. Prandaj, shkrimin e > z.Avdyli, agjencia jon? e ka l?shuar si reagim t? tij personal ndaj shkrimeve t? > z.Surroi dhe z.Haxhiu. Si z.Surroi, z.Haxhiu dhe z.Avdyli p?r shkrimet e tyre mbajn? > p?rgjegj?si individuale. > > Sh?ndet dhe gjih? t'mirat From besnik at alb-net.com Thu Nov 4 13:53:54 1999 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:53:54 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [ALBANIAN] Kosovapress-i? (pjesa e pare) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Natyrisht se kane te drejten e te shprehurit. Por nuk kane te drejte te botojne rrena (kjo gje denohet me ligj ne cdo vend demokratik, posacerisht nese e demtojne dikend) e as te kercenojne dikend me vdekje (edhe kjo denohet me ligj). Tung, Besniku At 1:24 PM -0500 11/4/99, Etrit Bardhi wrote: >Artikull mjafte i vrazhde, mirepo cdo kush e ka te drejten e te >shprehurit. I vetmi send qe me rrenqeth eshte ku autori shkruan se "Ata q >nuk ngurrojn t shkelin mbi gjakun e atyre q e kan br lirin n Kosov dhe >q fyejn rnd esencn dhe shpirtin shqiptar do t duhet ta din se mund >t jen edhe pre e ndonj hakmarrjeje eventuale dhe fare t kuptueshme, >prandaj as Veton Surroi e as Baton Haxhiu, kta mafioz ordiner, nuk do t >duhej t mbeteshin pa u ndshkuar pr veprat e tyre kriminale, pasi >idiotizmat e tyre ndihmojn kryekriminelin serb Sllobodan Millosheviq." > >Kjo mund te mirret nga dikush si drite e gjelbert per hakmarrje. > >Etriti. From ssander at ans.net Thu Nov 4 13:57:44 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:57:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: [ALBANIAN] Kosovapress-i? (pjesa e pare) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A eshte e mundshme se jemi duke pasqyruar fillimin e nje demokracie te ngjajshme te asaj ne SHBA, ku liria e te shprehurit eshte edhe thelbi i ardhmerise se sukseshme...por natyrsisht, te gjitha me kohe edhe ne KOSOVE :) tung - Sander On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Natyrisht se kane te drejten e te shprehurit. Por nuk kane te drejte te > botojne rrena (kjo gje denohet me ligj ne cdo vend demokratik, posacerisht > nese e demtojne dikend) e as te kercenojne dikend me vdekje (edhe kjo > denohet me ligj). > > Tung, > Besniku > > > At 1:24 PM -0500 11/4/99, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > >Artikull mjafte i vrazhde, mirepo cdo kush e ka te drejten e te > >shprehurit. I vetmi send qe me rrenqeth eshte ku autori shkruan se "Ata q > >nuk ngurrojn t shkelin mbi gjakun e atyre q e kan br lirin n Kosov dhe > >q fyejn rnd esencn dhe shpirtin shqiptar do t duhet ta din se mund > >t jen edhe pre e ndonj hakmarrjeje eventuale dhe fare t kuptueshme, > >prandaj as Veton Surroi e as Baton Haxhiu, kta mafioz ordiner, nuk do t > >duhej t mbeteshin pa u ndshkuar pr veprat e tyre kriminale, pasi > >idiotizmat e tyre ndihmojn kryekriminelin serb Sllobodan Millosheviq." > > > >Kjo mund te mirret nga dikush si drite e gjelbert per hakmarrje. > > > >Etriti. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Thu Nov 4 18:45:02 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:45:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Rruget e Prishtines... Message-ID: Kush jane gjithe keta njerez? Cka mendoni per keto emerime? Rruga Goleshi paska me qene Fazli Grajcevci... Kush eshte ky? Etriti Marre nga Kosovapress-i: Emrtimi i rrugve t Prishtins (Draft pr diskutim publik) Prishtin,4 nntor (Kosovapress) Propozim i ri, 1999: Ishte n vitin 1996: Emrtime lagjesh: 1. Qendra - Centar 2. Arbria - Dragodan 3. Qendra Universitare - Univerzitetski centar 4. Qyteza Pejton - Gradi Pejton 5. Arta - Kopusishte 6. Dardania - Dardania 7. Kalabria - Emshiri 8. Qendra Spitalore - Bolniki centar 9. Ulpiana - Ulpiana l0. Qendra Studentore - Studentski centar 11. QFT "Arkitekt Sinani" - Tehniki fakultet 12. Kodra e Diellit - Sunani breg 13. Dukagjini - Aktash Cfare te keqe ka Aktashi? 14. Toplica - Muhaxhirska 15. Dodona - Moravska-Parka 16. Velania - Velania 17. Labria - Taukbashta 18. Lagjja e Normales - Voje Jankovia(Kashagia) 19. Ilirida - Taslixhe II,III,IV Dardan, ma s'po banojshe ne Taslixhe... 20. amria - ish Kolibarska-Proleterska 21. Vreshtat - Vinogradarska 22. Lgjja e Gallapit - Bu. Hajratit-Kolovica Cka eshte Gallapi? 23. Lagjja e Medress - prreth Med. "Alauddin" 24. Lagjja e Gjinollve -prreth Muzeut natyror 25. Theranda - Blok I,II,III. 26. Troja - ish Tophane 27. Besiana - Tjegulltorja-Vorret e mome-Hertict 28. Kodra e Trimave - Vranjevaka 29. Zona e Ushtris -Vojnike kasarne 30. Pelagonia - Bolniko naselje 31. Dalmacia - pjesa juglindore e Kod. Diellit 32. Sefalia - Sofalija 33. Tashlixhe - Taslixhe I 34. Mirdita - Matian Pr emrtime t shesheve: 1. Sheshi Adem Jashari - Kralja Milutina 2. Sheshi Hasan Prishtina - Juri Gagarina 3. Sheshi Xhev Lladroci - n Dardani 4. Sheshi Mis Edit Durham - Trg Republike 5. Nn Tereza - para Teatrit-Sht. mall.-Banks 6. Sheshi i Demonstratave - te Menza e studentve 7. Sheshi Ataturku - para Shtp. Mall. t vjetr 8. Sheshi Sknderbeu para Fakultetit Filozofik 9. Zahir Pajaziti - midis Bib. Kombtare-F.Filof. l0. Uashington - n Bregu i Diellit 11. Bulevardi i Dshmorve - Vidovdanska 12. Sheshi i Liris - midis K. shoq-Pallati i Rinis. Emrtime rrugsh: 1.Abdyl Lahu - Bresnika 2.Abdyl Dura - Jaha Saliha 3.Abedin Rexha - Belomanastirska 4.Adem Voca - Samodreska 5.Adrian Krasniqi - Sibinjanina Janka 6.Afrim Zhitia - Braa Aksi 7.Aleksa Shantiq - Aleksa Santi 8.Aliriza Gashi - Barajevska 9.Afrim Krasniqi - Lovenska 10.Agim Bajrami - Vrbaska 11.Agim Qela - Dolevaka 12.Agim Ramadani - Djenerala B. Jankovia 13.Agron Rrahmani - Batajnika 14.Ahmet Delia - Tivatska 15.Ahmet Gashi - Dr. Hajima Baruhovia 16.Ahmet Kaiku - Zrenjaninska 17.Ahmet Koronica - Krupanjska 18.Ahmet Mulla Syla - Djerdapska 19.Ahmet Selaci - ajetinska 20.Adriatiku - Jadranska 21.Alpet Shqiptare - Grmiska 22.Avalla - Avalska 23.Ajet Gurguri - Dinarska 24.Ajet Kosovica - Djordja Markovia 25.Aleks Buda - Zvezdarska 26.Aleksandr Moisiu - Trstenika 27.Aleksandr Xhuvani - Gazimestanska 28.Ali Hadri - Dr. Bore Kozarca 29.Ali Kelmendi - Majora Milan Tepia 30.Ali pash Gucia - Azanjska 31.Ali pash Tepelena - Momila Popovia 32.Alush Smaili - Primorska 33.Andrea Gropa - Zanatska 34.Anton etta - Graanika 35.Arianitt - Atinska 36.Asdreni - Dr. Aribalda Rajska 37.Asllan Boletini - Kneza Milosa 38.Asllan Pireva - Lepenaka 39.At Luigj Palaj - Trajka Dimia 40.At Nik Prelaj - Carica Milica 41.At Prend Doi - Zorana Jevremovia 42.Avni Rrustemi - Laze Kostia 43.Azem Bejta - Vinogradska 44.Azem Bellaefci - Branka Radievia 45.Azem Morana - Ripanjska 46.Aleksandria - Slobodana Jovanovia 47.Arkitekt Karl Gega - aanska 48.Baba Bek Vraja - Vranjska 49.Bajram Curri -Dr. Milutina Lazarevia 50.Bajron - Vojvode olak 51.Bardhyli - Fruskogorska 52.Bedri Gjini - Ibarska 53.Bedri Pejani - Kosovska 54.Bedri Shala - Srpska 55.Bedri Sokoli - Vitinska 56.Berati - Nedeljka abrinovia 57.Bihori - Prijepoljska 58.Bujanoci - Beoinska 59.Buna - Visnjika 60.Butrinti - Leskovaka 61.Beh Mihaliqi - Mihajlo Lalia 62.Bekim Berisha - Abeja - Srpskih konzula 63.Bel Popova - Sumadinska 64.Beteja e Koshars - Mionika 65.Binak Alia - Pozarevaka 66.Bushatasit - Kninska 67.Buzuku - Grdelika 68.Bora Vukmiroviq - Mlavska 69.Carraleva - Crnalevska 70.eta e Sha Pirrakut - Krajiskih brigada 71.Dimitrije Tucoviq - Dimitrije Tucovia 72.Daut Borii - Savatije Milosevia 73.Dante Aligieri - Gligorije Bozovia 74.Ded Gjo Luli - Stevana Mokranjca 75.Dem Ahmeti - Trsika 76.Dajti - Drimska 77.Dibra - Drniska 78.Drenica - egarska 79.Drini i Bardh - Kneza Mihalja 80.Durrsi - Razanjska 81.Dervish Hima - Despotovaka 82.Dervish Rozhaja - Dr. Koste Todorovia 83.Dhimitr Jonima - Kotorska 84.Dhimitr Kamarda - Kosmajska 85.Edmond Hoxha - Salihi Rama 86.Emin Duraku - Save Kovaevia 87.Emrush Miftari - Filipa Visnia 88.Elbasani - Parainska 89.Esat Berisha - Zitoradzska 90.Esat Mekuli - Aleksandra Obrenovia 91.Faik Efendi Maloku - Hercegovaka 92.Fan Noli - Drinska 93.Fatime Hetemi - Negotinska 94.Fazli Greieci - Goleska 95.Fehmi Agani - Vojvode Vuka 96.Fehmi Lladroci - Desanke Maksimovia 97.Ferat Bej Draga - Banjaluka 98.Fuad pash Dibra - Aleksandra Djordjevia 99.F.G. Lorka - Apatinska 100.Garibaldi - Tomislava Sekulia 101.Gjakova - Djakovaka 102.Gjasht Lisat e Likashanit - Zlatiborska 103.Gjilani - Gnjilanska 104.Gostivari - Kosovske Devojke 105.Gucia - Ivanika 106.Ganimete Trbeshi - Ganimete Terbesi 107.Gustav Majer - Tanaska Rajia 108.Gazmend Zajmi - Profesora Belocerkovca 109.Gjergj Balsha - Despota Dj. Brankovia 110.Gjergj Pekmezi - Krfska 111.Gjon Serreqi - Jahorinska 112.Haif Pazari - Strahinia Bana 113.Hafz Ali Kora - Miloerska 114.Hafz Ymeri - Antonije Ristia Pljakia 115.Hajdar Dushi - Trajka Dimitrijevia 116.Haki Efendi Sermaxhaj - Gorazdevaka 117.Haki Pavataj - Kolasinska 118.Haki Taha - Radoje Domanovia 119.Hakif Zejnullahu - Romanijska 120.Hakif Rimanishta - Mladenovaka 121.Halim Orana - Karadjordja Petrovia 122.Halim Spahia - Obrenovaka 123.Hamdi Mramori - Mramorska 124.Hasan Dosti - Mataruska 125.Hasan Remniku - Kolibarska 126.Hasan Zyko Kamberi - Jovana Cvijia 127.Haxhi Mulla Zeka - Proleterska 128.Haxhi Sadri Blakori - Keramika 129.Hajnrih Hajne - Grahovska 130.Holger Pedersen - Razanska 131.Honore de Balzac - Generala Sarla Tranijea 132.Hil Mosi - Toplika 133.Hilmi Rakovica - Dr. edomira Jankovia 134.Hoxh Hasan Tahsini - Zajearska 135.Hoxh Kadri Prishtina - Durmitorska 136.Hysen Prishtina - Ivana Milutinovi 137.Hysni Curri - Zagorke Savia 138.Hyzri Talla - Voja Jankovia 139.Ibrahim Banushi - Stevana Vuia 140.Ibrahim Lutfiu - Strazilovska 141.Ibrahim Kelmendi - Komovska 142.Idris Ajet Gashi - Neretvanska 143.Idris Shahmani - Serdara Janka Vukotia 144.Ilaz Kodra - Nikola Pasia 145.Ilir Konusheci - Gavrila Principa 146.Iljaz Agushi - Vuka Karadzia 147.Iljaz pash Dibra - Rogoznika 148.Indrit Cara - Golubaka 149.Irrfan Ohri - Ljubeta Milentijevia 150.Isa Kastrati - Dr. Tot - Abonjija Jovana 151.Isa Havolli - ukarika 152.Isak Sherifi - Milosevaka 153.Ivan Cankar - Ubska 154.Ismail Dumoshi - Bore Bukmirovia 155.Ismail Gorani - Majora D. Gavrilovia 156.Ismail Qemali - Miroljuba Mirkovia 157.Ismet Jashari - Kosovskih junaka 158.Isuf Sokoli - Sejdo Bajramovia 159.Jahjabej Dukagjinzade - Petra Koia 160.Jakov Xoxa - Vojvode Putnika 161.Jakup Ferri - Deanska 162.Jashar Erebara - Uzika 163.Jasharajt - Sarplaninska 164.Jeronim de Rada - Milorada P.- Popa 165.Josif Bageri - Branka Miljkovia 166.Josip Rela - Branislava Nusia 167.Janina - Landovika 168.Juniku - Branievska 169.Johan V. Gete - Djenerala B. Jankovia 170.J.G.v Hahn - Jasenovaka 171.J.U. Jarnik - Baka 172.Kajtaz Ramadani - Krajiska 173.Kosta Novakoviq - Kragujevaka 174.Krova - Badanjska 175.Korabi - Slavoljuba Djinia-Djineta 176.Krakushta - Radanska 177.Kruja - Jasenovaka 178.Kuksi - Temerinska 179.Kulina - Beejska 180.Kumanova Kumanovska 181.Kaaniku - Kaanika 182.Karadaku - Jadarska 183.Kasmai - Cerska 184.Kavaja - Panonska 185.Kadri Zeka - Djure Miunovia 186.Kora - Budvanska 187.Kapiten Hysni Rudi - Zejnela Zejnelija 188.Karl Topia - Djurdjevdanska 189.Kastriott - Drage Dragisia 190.Kol Parubi - Zabljaka 191.Kolonel Fuad Dibra - Raska 192.Konstantini i Madh - Milosa Obilia 193.Koto Hoxhi - Takovska 194.Kristo Floqi - Miroanska 195.Kongresi i Manastirit - Zlatiborska 196.Kuvendi i Vlors- Kral. A. Karadjordjevia 197.Kuvendi i Bujanit - Moskovska 198.Kongresi i Drejtshkrimit - Dr. D. Filipovia 199.Konferenca e Rambujes - Hilandarska 200.Lasgush Poradeci - Janiija Popovia 201.Latif Berisha - Jeseninova 202.Lazar Vukoviq - Lazara Vukovia 203.Leka i Madh - Ariljska 204.Lek Dukagjini - edomira Jankovia 205.Limi - Limska 206.Lidhja e Lezhs - Maneta Sajdjije 207.Lidhja e Prizrenit - Cara Dusana 208.Lidhja e Pejs - Kral. Petra I.Oslobodioca 209.Lidhja II e Prizrenit - Jug Bogdana 210.Lot Vaku - Josanika 211.Llapi - Lapska 212.Llapushniku - Lipovaka 213.Lubjana - Kostolaka 214.Lypeteni - Lubotenska 215.Lypjani - Lipllanska 216.Leposaviqi - Leposavika 217.Luan Haradinaj - Njegoseva 218.Luigj Gurakuqi - Divibarska 219.Londra - Te "Kosova Film" 220.Maliq pash Gjinolli - Srpskih ratnika 221.Malush Miriqi - Krusevaka 222.Mahmutbe Dukagjini - Cetinska 223.Marie Shllaku - Nerodimska 224.Major Mehmet Bushi - Miladina Stevia 225.Marin Barleti - Palilulska 226.Martin Camaj - Surdulika 227.Mbreti Dioklecian - Svete Stefanovia 228.Mbreti Justinian - Djure Jaksia 229.Mbreti Pirro - Marevska 230.Meh Uka - Resavska 231.Mehmet pash Deralla -Milutina Savia 232.Mehmet Ali Vrioni - Danilovgradska 233.Mehmet Konjuhi - Brodarevaka 234.Mehmet Gradica - Starine Novaka 235.Mehmet pash uprlia - Kursumlijska 236.Mensur Zyberaj - Sokobanjska 237.Mesihi Prishtinasi - Vozdovaka 238.Meto Bajraktari - Meto Bajraktari 239.Metush Krasniqi - Jagodinska 240.Mic Sokoli - Vuedolska 241.Midhat Araniti - Matianska 242.Mihal Grameno - Vrsaka 243.Milosh Kopiliqi - Grka Polikrapa Srbina 244.Muhamet ami - Mitra Radusinovia 245.Muharrem Fejza - Dr. Sinise Tasovca 246.Muj Krasniqi - Vukovarska 247.Mujo Ulqinaku - Partizanska 248.Mulla Adem Keekolla - Kaikolska 249.Mulla Asim Luzha - Beranska 250.Mulla Halim Bajraktari - Stoj. Novakovia 251.Mulla Idris Gjilani - Patrijarha Danila 252.Mulla Ilaz Broja - Dositeja Obradovia 253.Mulla Jonuz Zejnullahu - Kapetana Misia 254.Mulla Nur Gjinoci - Mese Selimovia 255.Mulla Ram Govori - Prokupaka 256.Mulla Arif Shala - Pivska 257.Mulla Vejsel Guta - Kladovska 258.Murat Mehmeti - Devet Jugovia 259.Musa Shehzade - Bosko Buha 260.Mus Rahaveci - Kosjerika 261.Musine Kokolari - Cara Urosa 262.Mustafa Kruja - Stevana Sindjelia 263.Mustaf Venhari - Trajka Markovia 264.Mustaf Veselaj - para Medress 265.Mustaf Rahaveci - Koceljevaka 266.Myderris Hasan Nahi - Knjazevaka 267.Myderris Ymer Prizreni - Vase Pelagia 268.Myfailat e Zajazit - Zveanska 269.Myfti Zejnelabedini - Vase orapia 270.Myrvete Maksutaj - Dr. Milana Petrovia 271.Mali Albanik - Kopaonika 272.Manastiri - Sirogoinska 273.Medvegja - Bruska 274.Mitrovica - Mitrovaka 275.Mokna - Somborska 276.Mark Isak - Marka Isaka 277.Mehmet Akif Ersoy - Josifa Pania 278.Mihailo Pupin - Mihaila Pupina 279.Milan Budimir - Svetozara Milentia 280.Milan Shuflaj - Merdarska 281.Mulla Agan Kojiq - ievaka 282.Mak Dizdar - Kadrija Reufija 283.Mbreti Fejsal - Sutjeska 284.Mehmet Ali Pasha - Aleksinaka 285.Norbert Jokl - Novopazarska 286.Nail Hyseni - Kovinska 287.Nikola Tesla - Gamzigradska 288.Nishi - Niska 289.Naser Hajrizi - Paje Gradjanina 290.Nazim Gafurri - Miladina Popovia 291.Nazim Hikmet - Sidska 292.Naum Veilharxhi - Marika 293.Nikoll Ivanaj - Nadezde Petrovia 294.Nuhi Berisha - Uzun Mirkova 295.Osman Bunjaku - Batlavska 296.Ohri - Banatska 297.Pashtriku - Niksika 298.Peja - Peka 299.Peshterri - Pesterska 300.Plava - Plavska 301.Podgorica - Podgorika 302.Prekazi - Serdara Sepana 303.Presheva - Belopalanaka 304.Preveza - Crnotravska 305.Prizreni - Prizrenska 306.Pal Palucaj - Sremska 307.Papa Kristo Negovani - Lajkovaka 308.Pashko Vasa - Zeljeznika 309.Patr Anton Harapi - Vojvode Kolarca 310.Principata e Arbrit - Sabaka 311.Pushkin - Goliska 312.Qamil Hoxha - Nemanjina 313.Qazim Bajraktari - Zetska 314.Qemail Stafa - Mojkovaka 315.Qorr Ilaz Raaku - Panevaka 316.Qyqavica - Srbobranska 317.Rahoveci - Orahovaka 318.Rugova - Varvarinska 319.Rafael Sopi - Vojvode Z. Misia 320.Ram Bllaca - Gorska 321.Ram Vllasa - Ravnika 322.Ramiz Sadiku - Ramiza Sadika 323.Remzi Ademi - Subotika 324.Rexhep Elmazi - Boranska 325.Rexhep Gjeli - Rudnika 326.Rexhep Mala - Svetozara Markovia 327.Rexhep Mitrovica - Ilija Garasanina 328.Rrust Kabashi - Timoka 329.Rrustem pash Rrotulli - Vue Zikia 330.Rrustem Statofci - Dr. Dusana Bulajia 331.Radovan Zogoviq - Metohijska 332.Rifat Burxheviq - Rifata Burdjevia 333.Riadi - M. Crnjanskog 334.Sadik Rama - Nevesinjska 335.Said Najdeni - irila i Metodija 336.Sahit Ag Suhareka - Petrovaka 337.Sali Butka - Dr. Branka Zogovia 338.Sali Mani - Bistrika 339.Sali Nivica - Prote Mateje Nenadovia 340.Salih Gjuk Dukagjini - Misarska 341.Salih Shabani - Brdjanska 342.Salih Gjyrisheci - Tarska 343.Sami Peja - Kozaraka 344.Sef Kosharja - uprijska 345.Sefedin Begolli - Surinjska 346.Selam Musai - Bogotika 347.Selman Riza - Jovana J. Zmaja 348.Sitnica - Sitnika 349.Studentve - Studentska 350.Sarajeva - Oplenaka 351.Saranda - Iriska 352.Selaniku - Solunska 353.Sijarina - Sopoanska 354.Stambolli - Rumska 355.Struga - Petrovaradinska 356.Shala e Bajgors - Loznika 357.Sharri - elarevska 358.Shefqet Zeka - Risanska 359.Shkodra - Valevska 360.Shkumbini - Gruzanska 361.Shkupi - Branka opia 362.Shtimja - Stimljanska 363.Shandor Petfi - Slatinska 364.Shaban Palluzha - Pribojska 365.Shaban Shala - Palanaka 366.Shaip Kamberi - Ace Mrdakovia 367.Shaip Mustafa - Putnika 368.Shefqet Shkupi - Ivana S. Jastrebova 369.Shefki Desivojca - Milutina Bojia 370.Sheh Hilmi Maliqi - Ozrenska 371.Sheh Jonuzi - Jovana S. Popovia 372.Sheh Mehmet Sezai - Emin Duraku 373.Shot Galica - Jastrebaka 374.Shptim Robaj - (rruga pr Sefali) 375.Shuaip Spahija - Pozeska 376.Shyt Mareci - Ugrinovaka 377.Sknder eku - Majdanpeka 378.Sokol Dobroshi - Popa Josifa 379.Sokol Sopi - Majora V. Stojkovia 380.Syl Hotla - Krnjevaka 381.Sylejman Vokshi - Vojvode Stepanovia 382.Stefan Mokranjac - Semberijska 383.Svetozar Markoviq - Savska 384.Tahir Kolgjini - Milosa N. Djuria 385.Tahir Zajmi - Sime A. Igumana 386.Teuta - Guanska 387.Tabet e Llapashtics - Micka Krstia 388.Tepelena - Lazarevaka 389.Tetova - Stevana Sremca 390.Tirana - Beogradska 391.Tivari - Barska 392.Tomorri - Vlasotinaka 393.Trepa - Trepanska 394.Tutini - Moraka 395.Theodor II Muzaka - Kulska 396.Thimi Mitko - Laze Lazarevia 397.Tring Smajli - Ace Marovia 398.UK-s - Krala Milutina 399.Uk Sadiku - Vladisllava Stojanovia 400.Ukshin Kovaica - Ljubinjska 401.Ulqini - Vrbaska 402.Uilliam Shekspir - Banjska 403.Viktor Hygo - Svilajnaka 404.Vodrou Vilson - Patrijarha Varnave 405.Selman Kadria - Arandjelovaka 406.Vellusha - Veluska 407.Vlora - Svrliska 408.Vushtrria - Vuiternska 409.Vasil Andoni - Smederevska 410.Vejsel Pagarusha - Rakovika 411.Vllezrit Frashri - Avrama Petronijevia 412.Vllezrit Grvalla - M. Tanaskovia 413.Vllezrit Maastena - Dene Debelkovia 414.Vllezrit Qiriazi - Majke Jevrosime 415.Vllezrit Topulli - Zemunska 416.Vllezrit Fazliu - Jabllanika 417.Viktor Eftimiu - Bore Savia 418.Visar Dodani - Taslidje 419.Xheladin Deda - Borska 420.Xheladin Hana - Vojvode P. Bojevia 421.Xhelal Mitrovica - Kraljevia Marka 422.Xhemail Prishtina - Kosani Ivana 423.Xhemajli Berisha - Marka Milana 424.Xhem Gostivari - Bore Stankovia 425.Ymer Lutfi Paarizi - Alekse Nenadovia 426.Ylfete Humolli - Hajduk Velka 427.Ymer Berisha - Dr. Boska Zivkovia 428.Ymer Elshani - Resnika 429.Ymer Alushani - Palanaka 430.Zara - Dunavska 431.Zef Valentini - Milovana Glisia 432.Zenel Bajraktari - Titelska 433.Zejnel Salihu - Stefan Deanski 434.Zekeria Rexha - Kraljevaka 435.Zija Prishtina - Jovana Duia 436.Zija Shemsiu - Kneza Lazara 437.Zylyftar Poda - Bojnika 438.Zhuj Selmani - Nosilaca Alb. spomenice 439.Zhuk Haxhia - Javorska 440.11 Marsi - amila Torbedari 441.27 Nntori - Kordunjska 442.2 Korriku - Kral Nikola 443.7 Shtatori - Savnika 444.1 Tetori - Moravska. SHENIM: Ky variant u aprovua n Mbledhjen e prbashkt t Qeveris s Komuns s Prishtins dhe t Komisionit pr Emrtimin e Lagjeve, t Shesheve dhe t Rrrugve t Prishtins, m 2 nntor 1999. Me botimin n shtyp lshohet n diskutim publik, i cili do t zgjat deri m 13 nntor 1999. Institucionet shkencore, partit politike, asociacionet shoqrore dhe subjektet q mund t kontribuojn, me sugjerime, propozime e vrejtje, mund t'i drejtohen kryetarit t Komisionit , kurse qytetart - zyrave t Bashksive lokale. Prgjegjsit e Zyrave lokale sugjerimet duhet t'i, selekcionojn deri m 15 nntor 1999 dhe t'ia dorzojn Komisionit pran Komuns. Sugjerimet q do t arrijn pas dats l5 nntor 1999 nuk do t mirren n shqyrtim nga organi komunal kompetent. Fehmi HUMOLLI, Sekretar i KELSHRR t Prishtins Prishtin, 4 nntor 1999 From albiqeli at usa.net Thu Nov 4 19:29:38 1999 From: albiqeli at usa.net (Albi Qeli) Date: 4 Nov 99 18:29:38 CST Subject: [[Prishtina-l] Rruget e Prishtines...] Message-ID: <19991105002938.24887.qmail@aw162.netaddress.usa.net> Etrit Bardhi wrote: --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Kush jane gjithe keta njerez? Cka mendoni per keto emerime? . . . . . 242.Mihal Grameno - Vrsaka 243.Milosh Kopiliqi - Grka Polikrapa Srbina 244.Muhamet ami - Mitra Radusinovia . . . . . '243' duket si emer i pare :) :) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 From albiqeli at usa.net Thu Nov 4 19:29:38 1999 From: albiqeli at usa.net (Albi Qeli) Date: 4 Nov 99 18:29:38 CST Subject: [[Prishtina-l] Rruget e Prishtines...] Message-ID: <19991105002938.24887.qmail@aw162.netaddress.usa.net> Etrit Bardhi wrote: --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Kush jane gjithe keta njerez? Cka mendoni per keto emerime? . . . . . 242.Mihal Grameno - Vrsaka 243.Milosh Kopiliqi - Grka Polikrapa Srbina 244.Muhamet ami - Mitra Radusinovia . . . . . '243' duket si emer i pare :) :) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 From besnik at alb-net.com Thu Nov 4 22:02:55 1999 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:02:55 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: Kosovapress-i? In-Reply-To: <19991104184344.99935.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: At 10:43 AM -0800 11/4/99, Ramis Ahmetaj wrote: >Kurse sa i perket komentit te Surroit, besoj se eshte dukshem e qarte se ai >koment figuron negativisht ne pershtypjet nderkombetare lidhur me kauzen >shqiptare, dhe eshte ironike se si Surroi, perfaqesues i po asaj kauze, merr >guxim te shprehet publikisht ne lidhje me kete. Nese ai eshte i mendimit se >ne Kosove me te vertete egziston nje klime aq e forte fashiste, sa ai eshte >befasuar me kete, atehere si mund te perfaqesoj ai popullin i cili ka >adaptuar kete menyre jete? Edhe une pajtohem se vleresimi i Surroit nuk ka qene i drejte (bile kam argumentuar kunder kesaj ne nje shkrim te botuar ne Kohen Ditore). Mendoj se argumenti i tij ka qene jo krejt pa vlere, por termi qe ka zgjedhur (fashizem) ka qene i papershtatshem, jo vetem si argument por edhe politikisht. Meqe Surroi gezon respekt ne Perendim dhe qe ato qe i thote merren me seriozitet (shkrimi i tij ishte botuar ne anglisht ne se paku dy mediume ne Evrope dhe Amerike) shkrimi i tij pati jehone edhe ne arenen nderkombetare. Por reagimi i Kosovapressit, politikisht, vetem se ka bere dem me te madh. Sulmi kunder Surroi dhe Haxhiut ne nje menyre e ka konfirmuar argumentin e Surroit se dhuna ne Kosove nga pakicat do te kthehet kunder shqiptareve qe nuk mendojne "si duhet", duke i konfirmuar edhe pretendimet e autoreve si Chris Hedges qe thote se UCK-ja udhehiqet nga fashista, komunista dhe fundamentalista islamik (cfare kombinimi ne nje organizate!). Raportimi i ketij incidenti ne mediat Perendimore dhe buja qe ky rast beri ne Kosove (p.sh. reagimi i Kouchnerit dhe Keshillit Transitor) i ka bere shume dem grupit politik i cili ne Perendim ende shikohet me dyshim, e qe Kosovapressi me artikullin e vet donte ta mbronte. -Besniku From besnik at alb-net.com Thu Nov 4 23:16:46 1999 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:16:46 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Main Street, Prishtina Message-ID: Tung, ketu me poshte eshte nje artikull per Prishtinen i botuar ne fletushken (newsletter) te universitetit ku studioj. Eshte pak i gjate, por kisha pase deshire te lexoj reagimet tuaja. ----------- Main Street, Prishtina by Besnik Pula The main street of Prishtina, the capital of Kosova, is a typical "socialist" street. It cuts through the center of the city. It is long, but the road itself has only two lanes. The sidewalk is quite wide; at some points the street resembles a mini-boulevard. Along the sidewalk there are large, bounded rectangular plots of land that serve as gardens, as well as a series of trees. Along the street there are mostly residential buildings, but there are also administrative buildings, such as the old Communist Party headquarters, the provincial government buildings, office buildings of state-owned enterprises and row of shops, some of which formerly state-owned, others belonging to private entrepreneurs that Yugoslavia?s economic system had tolerated. The district where the main street is located is known as Qendra, or the center. The street and the buildings around were built after World War II; the street had not existed in Prishtina prior. The old, Ottoman period ?arshia (market street) with its rows of small shops had been almost completely leveled to make way for the new and ambitious socialist urban development plans. The buildings on the main street were built primarily during the 1950s and 60s. The type of buildings erected ? apartments and administration offices ? reflected Prishtina?s status of the time as an administrative outpost of Belgrade. This role would change as Prishtina gradually turned into a fully-fledged capital governing an autonomous province, and an Albanian cultural center boasting history and language institutes, an academy of arts and sciences, media centers and a university. As the city expanded, so did it its population. By the 1980s it had around 150,000 inhabitants, quite a large place by Kosovar standards. It is in one of those old 1950s residential buildings on the main street that I lived. I spent most of my childhood and early teens there. I walked to school or my grandmother?s house on that street, drove by with my parents, and played with friends who were, incidentally, both Albanian and Serb. I have many fond memories on that street and, thus, the place will always have sentimental value for me. I left Kosova in 1991, when Belgrade?s crackdown came full swing and ended up closing the high school that I used to go to, and firing my father from his managerial job at an export-import company and my mother from her teaching job at the university as part of a campaign that ended up dismissing most Albanians from their jobs. My subsequent visits back to the main street left me deeply impressed with how drastically things can change within only a few years. With each visit, it is on that street that I got to see the effects of what seems to me like a sort of an undeclared, leaderless and protracted revolution, which I only got to see episodes of. My first visit back since leaving in 1991 was in 1996. The bus from Belgrade, where I had flown in from Zurich, arrived late in the evening in the center of Prishtina, on the main street. After stepping off the bus, I was shocked by what I saw when I compared that with the pictures in my head from my early teenage years. Although no new major development had occurred, the face of the street had been completely transformed. Official bilinguialism (or even trilinguialism in some cases) had given way to exclusively Cyrillic signs in Serbian (Albanian uses the Latin alphabet), Serbian flags waving and Serbian music bustling from the local cafes in what used to be a street with no loud music. The street, which used to be called Marshal Tito, was now renamed Vidovdanska, based on the holy Orthodox day of St. Vitius (Vidovdan), coinciding with the anniversary of the Battle of Kosova of 1389. If the goal of the Serb "nationalizers" was to make Kosova feel like Serbia, they were successful, at least on this street. The main street of Prishtina ? the very same street where I had grown up ? felt foreign to me. The same street had been the scene of Albanian demonstrations in 1981, when tens of thousands demanded republican status for Kosova, and the late 1980s and early 1990s, when similar numbers marched out to protest the removal of Kosova?s autonomy. Six or seven years after the most recent protests, the Albanians had not left the city but had withdrawn from its center to its periphery. That is where the Albanian cafes and hang-outs were and where most of the parallel high school and university classes were being held. It was not particularly safe for an Albanian to go out walking on the main street. You could get stopped by the police, questioned and detained for no obvious reason, or, if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, receive a beating by the young Serbian toughs, something that the police would not be too eager to stop. One day during my stay in 1996, I decided to stop by my uncle?s, who now lives in our old apartment on the main street. He was not at home, so I decided to wait for him in front of the building. With so many Serbs and armed policemen of the Serbian Interior Ministry walking by me, I felt like I was the only Albanian there. But just by sitting there, in front of my old apartment, I felt like, if only for a brief moment, in some way I was claiming my old street back ? not for my nation, but for myself and my memories, from the policemen, most of whom were not even locals, and the people who had given it this new, supposedly Serbian face. This year, my arrival in Prishtina was not on the main street, since the taxi driver took me and Becky from Skopje, the capital of Macedonia, to my grandmother?s house located in the outskirts of Prishtina. I got to see my old street, the main street of Prishtina, two evenings later. During the evening hours, the main street of Prishtina traditionally turns into a promenade ? or korzo, as it is known by its local name. This tradition has run almost uninterrupted throughout the last few decades of Prishtina?s history. During these hours the street is closed for automobile traffic and is packed with strollers, young and old, who hang out, walk in long columns (reminiscent of something that would be done in a prison or in an army), and converse loudly. That July night that I went out to the main street, I was once again astonished by the drastic transformation that had occurred. Most of the Cyrillic signs had been broken or taken down. Tape vendors playing extremely loud Albanian patriotic songs were located every fifteen yards along the street, while Serb flags had been replaced by Albanian and NATO flags (hung up by Albanians, not by NATO), which were displayed all over the place. The cafes of the main street, once owned exclusively by Serbs, were taken over by Albanians ? former Kosova Liberation Army men, according to rumors. Even the old corner pastry shop, which used to be owned by a Gorani (a small Slav minority in Kosova), where me and my best friend used to go for sweets when we were kids, had new Albanian owners. I did not see a single Serb or hear a single word in Serbian on the street. (Incidentally, this is the same street were a few weeks ago a Bulgarian-speaking UN worker was shot and killed by attackers that thought he was a Serb.) Gone were the Gypsy shoe polishers that used to set up their little self-made kits on the street, entertaining themselves by using their brushes like drumsticks and beating them to a rhythm against their wooden shoe panels when they had no customers. The policemen of the Interior Ministry armed with AK-47s had been replaced by young British soldiers wielding their Western-made rifles, with their fingers always kept close the trigger. The numerous street vendors and the many cars parked irregularly on the sidewalks ? practices that were never tolerated in the past in this part of the city ? demonstrated the change in norms and the lack of authority. Furthermore, the street had undergone another name change. Now it is called Mother Teresa, named after the world-renown helper of the poor, who is of Albanian origin. I walked around, looking at the crowds that seemed to have soared since my visit of three years ago, or even from the korzo that I remember from my childhood. Many of the people on the korzo, from what I?ve been told, are Albanians from Kosova?s villages who have moved into Prishtina since the end of the war. Many of the older residents of Prishtina (who, at least in my book, tend to get a little snobby when speaking about their village co-ethnics), complained that their city was being taken over by katundars ? the Albanian word for peasants. To me, it once again felt like I was anywhere but in Prishtina, either the one from my childhood or the one from three years ago. This time it was an "Albanianized" version of the old street, full of people with stern rural appearances and with loud and sometimes irritating Albanian patriotic music. The main street had once again received a face-lift, one that, just like the previous, did not necessarily seem to make it any prettier. But the face-lift had another twist to it. Alongside the "Albanization" of the street, the internationals were also making their presence felt. Besides the patrolling KFOR soldiers and armored vehicles, the UN had set up its headquarters in the former army headquarters, located near the main street, and was repairing the old provincial government buildings ? which had had their windows shattered from a NATO bomb that struck a nearby post office ? to use them as offices. One could hear English, French, Italian, German among other languages being spoken on the street, and see persons of east and south Asian, Middle Eastern and African complexion on the street and its cafes ? quite a novelty for Prishtina, which was never home to such populations in its recent history. One day, in a scene reminiscent of Times Square in New York City, a young black man, with a UN employee tag hanging from his neck, had settled himself on the main street and was playing a saxophone. He was playing jazz music alongside the tape vendors playing Albanian patriotic music. This was another feature of the new, previously unimaginable, face of the street. * * * The history of the main street, with its changing names, faces, languages and symbols is in a way an analogy of the history of Kosova of the past several decades. The street itself is a structure that has no inherent character outside of the one prescribed to it by the people who use it, let alone a political or national "identity." As new political and social groups become influential or dominant, be they ethnically, ideologically, or class based, or even part of some multinational force, all with different values and ideologies, the appearance of the street transforms. Control of the main street and the center of the city becomes part of the struggle of each social or political group ? by dominating the street and displaying their symbols on it they show that they dominate the politics of the place. What is more interesting is that this happens without necessarily being planned or coordinated from a specific center. Those who put up Cyrillic signs and Serbian flags and renamed the street Vidovdanska were probably not ordered by some office in Belgrade to do so. And those who took those signs and flags down and replaced them with Albanian ones were not ordered by anyone to do so either. Each was a seemingly spontaneous process, but each with features too similar to those of the other to be simply haphazard. This particular street went from being a representation of socialist "modernization" and the socialist version of co-existence (the monument of Brotherhood and Unity is located not very far from it), into being "Serbianized," and then, similarly, into turning "Albanian," peculiarly combined and co-existing with the multinational presence of NATO and the United Nations. It served as a stage for mass politics: from the relative stability of the 1970s, the center became the scene of riots in 1981, of mass protests in 1989-90, of Serb manifestation of power for most of the 1990s, and now of Albanian national assertion mixed with a multinational presence. It went from displaying pictures of Tito, to posters of Slobodan Milosevic, Vojislav Seselj, and Vuk Draskovic, and now of the killed KLA founder Adem Jashari. And this is probably not the end of it. Will the street in the center of Prishtina now be a scene of a contest between local social groups, the old residents and the so-called "katundar" newcomers? Will it be the scene of a contest between more radical nationalists preoccupied with collective rights and those who are more inclined towards individual liberties? Will it be the scene of a clash between Albanian nationalism and the "multiethnic" society that the United Nations and NATO want to create? Or will there be enough room on that small street in that city center to accommodate everyone, saxophone players and tape vendors alike? At this moment, in Prishtina, everyone seems to be vying for control of the center. Literally and figuratively. And I used to live there. From etrit at alb-net.com Thu Nov 4 23:58:01 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:58:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Main Street, Prishtina In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Besnik, te lumte se shume bukur e paske shkruar... E parafytyrova rrugen duke e lexuar artikullin tend... ;) A eshte "Krash-i" ende i hapur apo e kane mshele? A ndive se kane me nderru emrin e Rruges Goleshi... :( Te fala, Etriti. On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Tung, > > ketu me poshte eshte nje artikull per Prishtinen i botuar ne fletushken > (newsletter) te universitetit ku studioj. Eshte pak i gjate, por kisha pase > deshire te lexoj reagimet tuaja. > > > ----------- > Main Street, Prishtina > > by Besnik Pula > > The main street of Prishtina, the capital of Kosova, is a typical > "socialist" street. It cuts through the center of the city. It is long, but > the road itself has only two lanes. The sidewalk is quite wide; at some > points the street resembles a mini-boulevard. Along the sidewalk there are > large, bounded rectangular plots of land that serve as gardens, as well as > a series of trees. Along the street there are mostly residential buildings, > but there are also administrative buildings, such as the old Communist > Party headquarters, the provincial government buildings, office buildings > of state-owned enterprises and row of shops, some of which formerly > state-owned, others belonging to private entrepreneurs that Yugoslavia?s > economic system had tolerated. The district where the main street is > located is known as Qendra, or the center. > > The street and the buildings around were built after World War II; the > street had not existed in Prishtina prior. The old, Ottoman period ?arshia > (market street) with its rows of small shops had been almost completely > leveled to make way for the new and ambitious socialist urban development > plans. The buildings on the main street were built primarily during the > 1950s and 60s. The type of buildings erected ? apartments and > administration offices ? reflected Prishtina?s status of the time as an > administrative outpost of Belgrade. This role would change as Prishtina > gradually turned into a fully-fledged capital governing an autonomous > province, and an Albanian cultural center boasting history and language > institutes, an academy of arts and sciences, media centers and a > university. As the city expanded, so did it its population. By the 1980s it > had around 150,000 inhabitants, quite a large place by Kosovar standards. > > It is in one of those old 1950s residential buildings on the main street > that I lived. I spent most of my childhood and early teens there. I walked > to school or my grandmother?s house on that street, drove by with my > parents, and played with friends who were, incidentally, both Albanian and > Serb. I have many fond memories on that street and, thus, the place will > always have sentimental value for me. > > I left Kosova in 1991, when Belgrade?s crackdown came full swing and ended > up closing the high school that I used to go to, and firing my father from > his managerial job at an export-import company and my mother from her > teaching job at the university as part of a campaign that ended up > dismissing most Albanians from their jobs. My subsequent visits back to the > main street left me deeply impressed with how drastically things can change > within only a few years. With each visit, it is on that street that I got > to see the effects of what seems to me like a sort of an undeclared, > leaderless and protracted revolution, which I only got to see episodes of. > > My first visit back since leaving in 1991 was in 1996. The bus from > Belgrade, where I had flown in from Zurich, arrived late in the evening in > the center of Prishtina, on the main street. After stepping off the bus, I > was shocked by what I saw when I compared that with the pictures in my head > from my early teenage years. Although no new major development had > occurred, the face of the street had been completely transformed. Official > bilinguialism (or even trilinguialism in some cases) had given way to > exclusively Cyrillic signs in Serbian (Albanian uses the Latin alphabet), > Serbian flags waving and Serbian music bustling from the local cafes in > what used to be a street with no loud music. The street, which used to be > called Marshal Tito, was now renamed Vidovdanska, based on the holy > Orthodox day of St. Vitius (Vidovdan), coinciding with the anniversary of > the Battle of Kosova of 1389. If the goal of the Serb "nationalizers" was > to make Kosova feel like Serbia, they were successful, at least on this > street. The main street of Prishtina ? the very same street where I had > grown up ? felt foreign to me. > > The same street had been the scene of Albanian demonstrations in 1981, when > tens of thousands demanded republican status for Kosova, and the late 1980s > and early 1990s, when similar numbers marched out to protest the removal of > Kosova?s autonomy. Six or seven years after the most recent protests, the > Albanians had not left the city but had withdrawn from its center to its > periphery. That is where the Albanian cafes and hang-outs were and where > most of the parallel high school and university classes were being held. It > was not particularly safe for an Albanian to go out walking on the main > street. You could get stopped by the police, questioned and detained for no > obvious reason, or, if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, > receive a beating by the young Serbian toughs, something that the police > would not be too eager to stop. One day during my stay in 1996, I decided > to stop by my uncle?s, who now lives in our old apartment on the main > street. He was not at home, so I decided to wait for him in front of the > building. With so many Serbs and armed policemen of the Serbian Interior > Ministry walking by me, I felt like I was the only Albanian there. But just > by sitting there, in front of my old apartment, I felt like, if only for a > brief moment, in some way I was claiming my old street back ? not for my > nation, but for myself and my memories, from the policemen, most of whom > were not even locals, and the people who had given it this new, supposedly > Serbian face. > > This year, my arrival in Prishtina was not on the main street, since the > taxi driver took me and Becky from Skopje, the capital of Macedonia, to my > grandmother?s house located in the outskirts of Prishtina. I got to see my > old street, the main street of Prishtina, two evenings later. > > During the evening hours, the main street of Prishtina traditionally turns > into a promenade ? or korzo, as it is known by its local name. This > tradition has run almost uninterrupted throughout the last few decades of > Prishtina?s history. During these hours the street is closed for automobile > traffic and is packed with strollers, young and old, who hang out, walk in > long columns (reminiscent of something that would be done in a prison or in > an army), and converse loudly. That July night that I went out to the main > street, I was once again astonished by the drastic transformation that had > occurred. Most of the Cyrillic signs had been broken or taken down. Tape > vendors playing extremely loud Albanian patriotic songs were located every > fifteen yards along the street, while Serb flags had been replaced by > Albanian and NATO flags (hung up by Albanians, not by NATO), which were > displayed all over the place. The cafes of the main street, once owned > exclusively by Serbs, were taken over by Albanians ? former Kosova > Liberation Army men, according to rumors. Even the old corner pastry shop, > which used to be owned by a Gorani (a small Slav minority in Kosova), where > me and my best friend used to go for sweets when we were kids, had new > Albanian owners. I did not see a single Serb or hear a single word in > Serbian on the street. (Incidentally, this is the same street were a few > weeks ago a Bulgarian-speaking UN worker was shot and killed by attackers > that thought he was a Serb.) Gone were the Gypsy shoe polishers that used > to set up their little self-made kits on the street, entertaining > themselves by using their brushes like drumsticks and beating them to a > rhythm against their wooden shoe panels when they had no customers. The > policemen of the Interior Ministry armed with AK-47s had been replaced by > young British soldiers wielding their Western-made rifles, with their > fingers always kept close the trigger. The numerous street vendors and the > many cars parked irregularly on the sidewalks ? practices that were never > tolerated in the past in this part of the city ? demonstrated the change in > norms and the lack of authority. Furthermore, the street had undergone > another name change. Now it is called Mother Teresa, named after the > world-renown helper of the poor, who is of Albanian origin. > > I walked around, looking at the crowds that seemed to have soared since my > visit of three years ago, or even from the korzo that I remember from my > childhood. Many of the people on the korzo, from what I?ve been told, are > Albanians from Kosova?s villages who have moved into Prishtina since the > end of the war. Many of the older residents of Prishtina (who, at least in > my book, tend to get a little snobby when speaking about their village > co-ethnics), complained that their city was being taken over by katundars ? > the Albanian word for peasants. To me, it once again felt like I was > anywhere but in Prishtina, either the one from my childhood or the one from > three years ago. This time it was an "Albanianized" version of the old > street, full of people with stern rural appearances and with loud and > sometimes irritating Albanian patriotic music. The main street had once > again received a face-lift, one that, just like the previous, did not > necessarily seem to make it any prettier. > > But the face-lift had another twist to it. Alongside the "Albanization" of > the street, the internationals were also making their presence felt. > Besides the patrolling KFOR soldiers and armored vehicles, the UN had set > up its headquarters in the former army headquarters, located near the main > street, and was repairing the old provincial government buildings ? which > had had their windows shattered from a NATO bomb that struck a nearby post > office ? to use them as offices. One could hear English, French, Italian, > German among other languages being spoken on the street, and see persons of > east and south Asian, Middle Eastern and African complexion on the street > and its cafes ? quite a novelty for Prishtina, which was never home to such > populations in its recent history. One day, in a scene reminiscent of Times > Square in New York City, a young black man, with a UN employee tag hanging > from his neck, had settled himself on the main street and was playing a > saxophone. He was playing jazz music alongside the tape vendors playing > Albanian patriotic music. This was another feature of the new, previously > unimaginable, face of the street. > > * * * > > The history of the main street, with its changing names, faces, languages > and symbols is in a way an analogy of the history of Kosova of the past > several decades. The street itself is a structure that has no inherent > character outside of the one prescribed to it by the people who use it, let > alone a political or national "identity." As new political and social > groups become influential or dominant, be they ethnically, ideologically, > or class based, or even part of some multinational force, all with > different values and ideologies, the appearance of the street transforms. > Control of the main street and the center of the city becomes part of the > struggle of each social or political group ? by dominating the street and > displaying their symbols on it they show that they dominate the politics of > the place. What is more interesting is that this happens without > necessarily being planned or coordinated from a specific center. Those who > put up Cyrillic signs and Serbian flags and renamed the street Vidovdanska > were probably not ordered by some office in Belgrade to do so. And those > who took those signs and flags down and replaced them with Albanian ones > were not ordered by anyone to do so either. Each was a seemingly > spontaneous process, but each with features too similar to those of the > other to be simply haphazard. > > This particular street went from being a representation of socialist > "modernization" and the socialist version of co-existence (the monument of > Brotherhood and Unity is located not very far from it), into being > "Serbianized," and then, similarly, into turning "Albanian," peculiarly > combined and co-existing with the multinational presence of NATO and the > United Nations. It served as a stage for mass politics: from the relative > stability of the 1970s, the center became the scene of riots in 1981, of > mass protests in 1989-90, of Serb manifestation of power for most of the > 1990s, and now of Albanian national assertion mixed with a multinational > presence. It went from displaying pictures of Tito, to posters of Slobodan > Milosevic, Vojislav Seselj, and Vuk Draskovic, and now of the killed KLA > founder Adem Jashari. > > And this is probably not the end of it. Will the street in the center of > Prishtina now be a scene of a contest between local social groups, the old > residents and the so-called "katundar" newcomers? Will it be the scene of a > contest between more radical nationalists preoccupied with collective > rights and those who are more inclined towards individual liberties? Will > it be the scene of a clash between Albanian nationalism and the > "multiethnic" society that the United Nations and NATO want to create? Or > will there be enough room on that small street in that city center to > accommodate everyone, saxophone players and tape vendors alike? At this > moment, in Prishtina, everyone seems to be vying for control of the center. > Literally and figuratively. > And I used to live there. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From besnik at alb-net.com Fri Nov 5 00:30:05 1999 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:30:05 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Main Street, Prishtina In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 11:58 PM -0500 11/4/99, Etrit Bardhi wrote: >Besnik, te lumte se shume bukur e paske shkruar... > >E parafytyrova rrugen duke e lexuar artikullin tend... ;) Gezohem qe te ka pelqyer. >A eshte "Krash-i" ende i hapur apo e kane mshele? Dyqani ku ishte "Krashi" tash eshte njefare mini-marketi, prone e "shtetit". >A ndive se kane me nderru emrin e Rruges Goleshi... :( Nuk kuptoj pse duhet te nderrohen emrat e Goleshit, Taslixhes apo edhe Aktashit. Kam pershtypjen se ata qe i kane propozuar emrat e ri nuk kane jetuar ndonjehere ne Prishtine. -Besniku From etrit at alb-net.com Fri Nov 5 00:36:27 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:36:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Main Street, Prishtina In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > Dyqani ku ishte "Krashi" tash eshte njefare mini-marketi, prone e "shtetit". cilit "shtet"? > > Nuk kuptoj pse duhet te nderrohen emrat e Goleshit, Taslixhes apo edhe > Aktashit. Kam pershtypjen se ata qe i kane propozuar emrat e ri nuk kane > jetuar ndonjehere ne Prishtine. Sipoduket ashtu eshte... Nejse, rruget nderrohen prap mas 5 viteve kur vjen dikush tjeter ne pushtet... bej shaka... ;) Etriti. > > -Besniku > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From besnik at alb-net.com Fri Nov 5 01:08:59 1999 From: besnik at alb-net.com (Besnik Pula) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:08:59 -0500 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Main Street, Prishtina In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 12:36 AM -0500 11/5/99, Etrit Bardhi wrote: >> Dyqani ku ishte "Krashi" tash eshte njefare mini-marketi, prone e "shtetit". > >cilit "shtet"? Ate pyetje e bej edhe une. >> Nuk kuptoj pse duhet te nderrohen emrat e Goleshit, Taslixhes apo edhe >> Aktashit. Kam pershtypjen se ata qe i kane propozuar emrat e ri nuk kane >> jetuar ndonjehere ne Prishtine. > >Sipoduket ashtu eshte... Nejse, rruget nderrohen prap mas 5 viteve kur >vjen dikush tjeter ne pushtet... bej shaka... ;) Nuk do te isha habitur sikur te ndodhte keshtu... Natyrisht, kur behem une kryetar i komunes, rruget e Prishtines do te kene keta emra: Emertime lagjesh: 1. Poshteqytet (downtown) - Qendra 2. Kodra e amerikaneve - Dragodan 3. Qendra e te ndriturve te kombit - Univerzitetski centar 4. Qyteza e Cimes - Gradi Pejton 5. "Te banesa e vjeter e Ibrahim Rugoves" - Kopusishte 6. Qendra e te semurve - Bolniki centar 7. Qendra e te papuneve - Studentski centar 8. Kodra e Organizatave Humanitare - Sunani breg Per emertime te shesheve: 1. Sheshi i Prefektit tone te ndritur - Juri Gagarina 2. Sheshi Free Kosova USA - n Dardani 3. Sheshi Prishtina discussion list 4. Sheshi i pronarit te Prishtina discussion list 5. Sheshi Fadil Vokrri (te stadioni) 6. Sheshi Rambo (kushtuar ushtarit te UCK-se) Emra rrugesh: 1. Bono (qytetar nderi) 2. Bill Gates (pas donacionit te tre milione $) 3. Howard Stern (per kontributin ne zhvillimin kulturor) 4. Gili (ne kete rruge lejohet shitja e kasetave ne rruge) 5. Fifth Avenue (te pazari) 6. Arthur Avenue (qebaptore ne vend te pizzerive) 7. Komandant Raketa (komandantit te UCK-se) 8. Bruce Lee (per argetimin e shumte qe i beri rinise kosovare gjate 1980-ave) From ssander at ans.net Fri Nov 5 10:05:44 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:05:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Rruget e Prishtines... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: une jam per me kete qendrim...pa marre parasysh se kush jane keta emra te ri, nese jane emra SHQIPTARE, une jam ne perkrahje te plote...edhe nje shtim, qate rrugen e stadiumit, e kish quajt rruga "Fadil Vokrri", seriozisht. tung - Sander On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Kush jane gjithe keta njerez? Cka mendoni per keto emerime? > > Rruga Goleshi paska me qene Fazli Grajcevci... Kush eshte ky? > > Etriti > > Marre nga Kosovapress-i: > > Emrtimi i rrugve t Prishtins > (Draft pr diskutim publik) > > Prishtin,4 nntor (Kosovapress) > > > Propozim i ri, 1999: Ishte n vitin 1996: > > Emrtime lagjesh: > 1. Qendra - Centar > 2. Arbria - Dragodan > 3. Qendra Universitare - Univerzitetski centar > 4. Qyteza Pejton - Gradi Pejton > 5. Arta - Kopusishte > 6. Dardania - Dardania > 7. Kalabria - Emshiri > 8. Qendra Spitalore - Bolniki centar > 9. Ulpiana - Ulpiana > l0. Qendra Studentore - Studentski centar > 11. QFT "Arkitekt Sinani" - Tehniki fakultet > 12. Kodra e Diellit - Sunani breg > 13. Dukagjini - Aktash > > Cfare te keqe ka Aktashi? > > 14. Toplica - Muhaxhirska > 15. Dodona - Moravska-Parka > 16. Velania - Velania > 17. Labria - Taukbashta > > 18. Lagjja e Normales - Voje Jankovia(Kashagia) > 19. Ilirida - Taslixhe II,III,IV > > Dardan, ma s'po banojshe ne Taslixhe... > > 20. amria - ish Kolibarska-Proleterska > 21. Vreshtat - Vinogradarska > 22. Lgjja e Gallapit - Bu. Hajratit-Kolovica > > Cka eshte Gallapi? > > 23. Lagjja e Medress - prreth Med. "Alauddin" > 24. Lagjja e Gjinollve -prreth Muzeut natyror > 25. Theranda - Blok I,II,III. > 26. Troja - ish Tophane > 27. Besiana - Tjegulltorja-Vorret e mome-Hertict > 28. Kodra e Trimave - Vranjevaka > 29. Zona e Ushtris -Vojnike kasarne > 30. Pelagonia - Bolniko naselje > 31. Dalmacia - pjesa juglindore e Kod. Diellit > 32. Sefalia - Sofalija > 33. Tashlixhe - Taslixhe I > 34. Mirdita - Matian > > > > Pr emrtime t shesheve: > 1. Sheshi Adem Jashari - Kralja Milutina > 2. Sheshi Hasan Prishtina - Juri Gagarina > 3. Sheshi Xhev Lladroci - n Dardani > 4. Sheshi Mis Edit Durham - Trg Republike > 5. Nn Tereza - para Teatrit-Sht. mall.-Banks > 6. Sheshi i Demonstratave - te Menza e studentve > 7. Sheshi Ataturku - para Shtp. Mall. t vjetr > 8. Sheshi Sknderbeu para Fakultetit Filozofik > 9. Zahir Pajaziti - midis Bib. Kombtare-F.Filof. > l0. Uashington - n Bregu i Diellit > 11. Bulevardi i Dshmorve - Vidovdanska > 12. Sheshi i Liris - midis K. shoq-Pallati i Rinis. > > > > > Emrtime rrugsh: > > 1.Abdyl Lahu - Bresnika > 2.Abdyl Dura - Jaha Saliha > 3.Abedin Rexha - Belomanastirska > 4.Adem Voca - Samodreska > 5.Adrian Krasniqi - Sibinjanina Janka > 6.Afrim Zhitia - Braa Aksi > 7.Aleksa Shantiq - Aleksa Santi > 8.Aliriza Gashi - Barajevska > 9.Afrim Krasniqi - Lovenska > 10.Agim Bajrami - Vrbaska > 11.Agim Qela - Dolevaka > 12.Agim Ramadani - Djenerala B. Jankovia > 13.Agron Rrahmani - Batajnika > 14.Ahmet Delia - Tivatska > 15.Ahmet Gashi - Dr. Hajima Baruhovia > 16.Ahmet Kaiku - Zrenjaninska > 17.Ahmet Koronica - Krupanjska > 18.Ahmet Mulla Syla - Djerdapska > 19.Ahmet Selaci - ajetinska > 20.Adriatiku - Jadranska > 21.Alpet Shqiptare - Grmiska > 22.Avalla - Avalska > 23.Ajet Gurguri - Dinarska > 24.Ajet Kosovica - Djordja Markovia > 25.Aleks Buda - Zvezdarska > 26.Aleksandr Moisiu - Trstenika > 27.Aleksandr Xhuvani - Gazimestanska > 28.Ali Hadri - Dr. Bore Kozarca > 29.Ali Kelmendi - Majora Milan Tepia > 30.Ali pash Gucia - Azanjska > 31.Ali pash Tepelena - Momila Popovia > 32.Alush Smaili - Primorska > 33.Andrea Gropa - Zanatska > 34.Anton etta - Graanika > 35.Arianitt - Atinska > 36.Asdreni - Dr. Aribalda Rajska > 37.Asllan Boletini - Kneza Milosa > 38.Asllan Pireva - Lepenaka > 39.At Luigj Palaj - Trajka Dimia > 40.At Nik Prelaj - Carica Milica > 41.At Prend Doi - Zorana Jevremovia > 42.Avni Rrustemi - Laze Kostia > 43.Azem Bejta - Vinogradska > 44.Azem Bellaefci - Branka Radievia > 45.Azem Morana - Ripanjska > 46.Aleksandria - Slobodana Jovanovia > 47.Arkitekt Karl Gega - aanska > 48.Baba Bek Vraja - Vranjska > 49.Bajram Curri -Dr. Milutina Lazarevia > 50.Bajron - Vojvode olak > 51.Bardhyli - Fruskogorska > 52.Bedri Gjini - Ibarska > 53.Bedri Pejani - Kosovska > 54.Bedri Shala - Srpska > 55.Bedri Sokoli - Vitinska > 56.Berati - Nedeljka abrinovia > 57.Bihori - Prijepoljska > 58.Bujanoci - Beoinska > 59.Buna - Visnjika > 60.Butrinti - Leskovaka > 61.Beh Mihaliqi - Mihajlo Lalia > 62.Bekim Berisha - Abeja - Srpskih konzula > 63.Bel Popova - Sumadinska > 64.Beteja e Koshars - Mionika > 65.Binak Alia - Pozarevaka > 66.Bushatasit - Kninska > 67.Buzuku - Grdelika > 68.Bora Vukmiroviq - Mlavska > 69.Carraleva - Crnalevska > 70.eta e Sha Pirrakut - Krajiskih brigada > 71.Dimitrije Tucoviq - Dimitrije Tucovia > 72.Daut Borii - Savatije Milosevia > 73.Dante Aligieri - Gligorije Bozovia > 74.Ded Gjo Luli - Stevana Mokranjca > 75.Dem Ahmeti - Trsika > 76.Dajti - Drimska > 77.Dibra - Drniska > 78.Drenica - egarska > 79.Drini i Bardh - Kneza Mihalja > 80.Durrsi - Razanjska > 81.Dervish Hima - Despotovaka > 82.Dervish Rozhaja - Dr. Koste Todorovia > 83.Dhimitr Jonima - Kotorska > 84.Dhimitr Kamarda - Kosmajska > 85.Edmond Hoxha - Salihi Rama > 86.Emin Duraku - Save Kovaevia > 87.Emrush Miftari - Filipa Visnia > 88.Elbasani - Parainska > 89.Esat Berisha - Zitoradzska > 90.Esat Mekuli - Aleksandra Obrenovia > 91.Faik Efendi Maloku - Hercegovaka > 92.Fan Noli - Drinska > 93.Fatime Hetemi - Negotinska > 94.Fazli Greieci - Goleska > 95.Fehmi Agani - Vojvode Vuka > 96.Fehmi Lladroci - Desanke Maksimovia > 97.Ferat Bej Draga - Banjaluka > 98.Fuad pash Dibra - Aleksandra Djordjevia > 99.F.G. Lorka - Apatinska > 100.Garibaldi - Tomislava Sekulia > 101.Gjakova - Djakovaka > 102.Gjasht Lisat e Likashanit - Zlatiborska > 103.Gjilani - Gnjilanska > 104.Gostivari - Kosovske Devojke > 105.Gucia - Ivanika > 106.Ganimete Trbeshi - Ganimete Terbesi > 107.Gustav Majer - Tanaska Rajia > 108.Gazmend Zajmi - Profesora Belocerkovca > 109.Gjergj Balsha - Despota Dj. Brankovia > 110.Gjergj Pekmezi - Krfska > 111.Gjon Serreqi - Jahorinska > 112.Haif Pazari - Strahinia Bana > 113.Hafz Ali Kora - Miloerska > 114.Hafz Ymeri - Antonije Ristia Pljakia > 115.Hajdar Dushi - Trajka Dimitrijevia > 116.Haki Efendi Sermaxhaj - Gorazdevaka > 117.Haki Pavataj - Kolasinska > 118.Haki Taha - Radoje Domanovia > 119.Hakif Zejnullahu - Romanijska > 120.Hakif Rimanishta - Mladenovaka > 121.Halim Orana - Karadjordja Petrovia > 122.Halim Spahia - Obrenovaka > 123.Hamdi Mramori - Mramorska > 124.Hasan Dosti - Mataruska > 125.Hasan Remniku - Kolibarska > 126.Hasan Zyko Kamberi - Jovana Cvijia > 127.Haxhi Mulla Zeka - Proleterska > 128.Haxhi Sadri Blakori - Keramika > 129.Hajnrih Hajne - Grahovska > 130.Holger Pedersen - Razanska > 131.Honore de Balzac - Generala Sarla Tranijea > 132.Hil Mosi - Toplika > 133.Hilmi Rakovica - Dr. edomira Jankovia > 134.Hoxh Hasan Tahsini - Zajearska > 135.Hoxh Kadri Prishtina - Durmitorska > 136.Hysen Prishtina - Ivana Milutinovi > 137.Hysni Curri - Zagorke Savia > 138.Hyzri Talla - Voja Jankovia > 139.Ibrahim Banushi - Stevana Vuia > 140.Ibrahim Lutfiu - Strazilovska > 141.Ibrahim Kelmendi - Komovska > 142.Idris Ajet Gashi - Neretvanska > 143.Idris Shahmani - Serdara Janka Vukotia > 144.Ilaz Kodra - Nikola Pasia > 145.Ilir Konusheci - Gavrila Principa > 146.Iljaz Agushi - Vuka Karadzia > 147.Iljaz pash Dibra - Rogoznika > 148.Indrit Cara - Golubaka > 149.Irrfan Ohri - Ljubeta Milentijevia > 150.Isa Kastrati - Dr. Tot - Abonjija Jovana > 151.Isa Havolli - ukarika > 152.Isak Sherifi - Milosevaka > 153.Ivan Cankar - Ubska > 154.Ismail Dumoshi - Bore Bukmirovia > 155.Ismail Gorani - Majora D. Gavrilovia > 156.Ismail Qemali - Miroljuba Mirkovia > 157.Ismet Jashari - Kosovskih junaka > 158.Isuf Sokoli - Sejdo Bajramovia > 159.Jahjabej Dukagjinzade - Petra Koia > 160.Jakov Xoxa - Vojvode Putnika > 161.Jakup Ferri - Deanska > 162.Jashar Erebara - Uzika > 163.Jasharajt - Sarplaninska > 164.Jeronim de Rada - Milorada P.- Popa > 165.Josif Bageri - Branka Miljkovia > 166.Josip Rela - Branislava Nusia > 167.Janina - Landovika > 168.Juniku - Branievska > 169.Johan V. Gete - Djenerala B. Jankovia > 170.J.G.v Hahn - Jasenovaka > 171.J.U. Jarnik - Baka > 172.Kajtaz Ramadani - Krajiska > 173.Kosta Novakoviq - Kragujevaka > 174.Krova - Badanjska > 175.Korabi - Slavoljuba Djinia-Djineta > 176.Krakushta - Radanska > 177.Kruja - Jasenovaka > 178.Kuksi - Temerinska > 179.Kulina - Beejska > 180.Kumanova Kumanovska > 181.Kaaniku - Kaanika > 182.Karadaku - Jadarska > 183.Kasmai - Cerska > 184.Kavaja - Panonska > 185.Kadri Zeka - Djure Miunovia > 186.Kora - Budvanska > 187.Kapiten Hysni Rudi - Zejnela Zejnelija > 188.Karl Topia - Djurdjevdanska > 189.Kastriott - Drage Dragisia > 190.Kol Parubi - Zabljaka > 191.Kolonel Fuad Dibra - Raska > 192.Konstantini i Madh - Milosa Obilia > 193.Koto Hoxhi - Takovska > 194.Kristo Floqi - Miroanska > 195.Kongresi i Manastirit - Zlatiborska > 196.Kuvendi i Vlors- Kral. A. Karadjordjevia > 197.Kuvendi i Bujanit - Moskovska > 198.Kongresi i Drejtshkrimit - Dr. D. Filipovia > 199.Konferenca e Rambujes - Hilandarska > 200.Lasgush Poradeci - Janiija Popovia > 201.Latif Berisha - Jeseninova > 202.Lazar Vukoviq - Lazara Vukovia > 203.Leka i Madh - Ariljska > 204.Lek Dukagjini - edomira Jankovia > 205.Limi - Limska > 206.Lidhja e Lezhs - Maneta Sajdjije > 207.Lidhja e Prizrenit - Cara Dusana > 208.Lidhja e Pejs - Kral. Petra I.Oslobodioca > 209.Lidhja II e Prizrenit - Jug Bogdana > 210.Lot Vaku - Josanika > 211.Llapi - Lapska > 212.Llapushniku - Lipovaka > 213.Lubjana - Kostolaka > 214.Lypeteni - Lubotenska > 215.Lypjani - Lipllanska > 216.Leposaviqi - Leposavika > 217.Luan Haradinaj - Njegoseva > 218.Luigj Gurakuqi - Divibarska > 219.Londra - Te "Kosova Film" > 220.Maliq pash Gjinolli - Srpskih ratnika > 221.Malush Miriqi - Krusevaka > 222.Mahmutbe Dukagjini - Cetinska > 223.Marie Shllaku - Nerodimska > 224.Major Mehmet Bushi - Miladina Stevia > 225.Marin Barleti - Palilulska > 226.Martin Camaj - Surdulika > 227.Mbreti Dioklecian - Svete Stefanovia > 228.Mbreti Justinian - Djure Jaksia > 229.Mbreti Pirro - Marevska > 230.Meh Uka - Resavska > 231.Mehmet pash Deralla -Milutina Savia > 232.Mehmet Ali Vrioni - Danilovgradska > 233.Mehmet Konjuhi - Brodarevaka > 234.Mehmet Gradica - Starine Novaka > 235.Mehmet pash uprlia - Kursumlijska > 236.Mensur Zyberaj - Sokobanjska > 237.Mesihi Prishtinasi - Vozdovaka > 238.Meto Bajraktari - Meto Bajraktari > 239.Metush Krasniqi - Jagodinska > 240.Mic Sokoli - Vuedolska > 241.Midhat Araniti - Matianska > 242.Mihal Grameno - Vrsaka > 243.Milosh Kopiliqi - Grka Polikrapa Srbina > 244.Muhamet ami - Mitra Radusinovia > 245.Muharrem Fejza - Dr. Sinise Tasovca > 246.Muj Krasniqi - Vukovarska > 247.Mujo Ulqinaku - Partizanska > 248.Mulla Adem Keekolla - Kaikolska > 249.Mulla Asim Luzha - Beranska > 250.Mulla Halim Bajraktari - Stoj. Novakovia > 251.Mulla Idris Gjilani - Patrijarha Danila > 252.Mulla Ilaz Broja - Dositeja Obradovia > 253.Mulla Jonuz Zejnullahu - Kapetana Misia > 254.Mulla Nur Gjinoci - Mese Selimovia > 255.Mulla Ram Govori - Prokupaka > 256.Mulla Arif Shala - Pivska > 257.Mulla Vejsel Guta - Kladovska > 258.Murat Mehmeti - Devet Jugovia > 259.Musa Shehzade - Bosko Buha > 260.Mus Rahaveci - Kosjerika > 261.Musine Kokolari - Cara Urosa > 262.Mustafa Kruja - Stevana Sindjelia > 263.Mustaf Venhari - Trajka Markovia > 264.Mustaf Veselaj - para Medress > 265.Mustaf Rahaveci - Koceljevaka > 266.Myderris Hasan Nahi - Knjazevaka > 267.Myderris Ymer Prizreni - Vase Pelagia > 268.Myfailat e Zajazit - Zveanska > 269.Myfti Zejnelabedini - Vase orapia > 270.Myrvete Maksutaj - Dr. Milana Petrovia > 271.Mali Albanik - Kopaonika > 272.Manastiri - Sirogoinska > 273.Medvegja - Bruska > 274.Mitrovica - Mitrovaka > 275.Mokna - Somborska > 276.Mark Isak - Marka Isaka > 277.Mehmet Akif Ersoy - Josifa Pania > 278.Mihailo Pupin - Mihaila Pupina > 279.Milan Budimir - Svetozara Milentia > 280.Milan Shuflaj - Merdarska > 281.Mulla Agan Kojiq - ievaka > 282.Mak Dizdar - Kadrija Reufija > 283.Mbreti Fejsal - Sutjeska > 284.Mehmet Ali Pasha - Aleksinaka > 285.Norbert Jokl - Novopazarska > 286.Nail Hyseni - Kovinska > 287.Nikola Tesla - Gamzigradska > 288.Nishi - Niska > 289.Naser Hajrizi - Paje Gradjanina > 290.Nazim Gafurri - Miladina Popovia > 291.Nazim Hikmet - Sidska > 292.Naum Veilharxhi - Marika > 293.Nikoll Ivanaj - Nadezde Petrovia > 294.Nuhi Berisha - Uzun Mirkova > 295.Osman Bunjaku - Batlavska > 296.Ohri - Banatska > 297.Pashtriku - Niksika > 298.Peja - Peka > 299.Peshterri - Pesterska > 300.Plava - Plavska > 301.Podgorica - Podgorika > 302.Prekazi - Serdara Sepana > 303.Presheva - Belopalanaka > 304.Preveza - Crnotravska > 305.Prizreni - Prizrenska > 306.Pal Palucaj - Sremska > 307.Papa Kristo Negovani - Lajkovaka > 308.Pashko Vasa - Zeljeznika > 309.Patr Anton Harapi - Vojvode Kolarca > 310.Principata e Arbrit - Sabaka > 311.Pushkin - Goliska > 312.Qamil Hoxha - Nemanjina > 313.Qazim Bajraktari - Zetska > 314.Qemail Stafa - Mojkovaka > 315.Qorr Ilaz Raaku - Panevaka > 316.Qyqavica - Srbobranska > 317.Rahoveci - Orahovaka > 318.Rugova - Varvarinska > 319.Rafael Sopi - Vojvode Z. Misia > 320.Ram Bllaca - Gorska > 321.Ram Vllasa - Ravnika > 322.Ramiz Sadiku - Ramiza Sadika > 323.Remzi Ademi - Subotika > 324.Rexhep Elmazi - Boranska > 325.Rexhep Gjeli - Rudnika > 326.Rexhep Mala - Svetozara Markovia > 327.Rexhep Mitrovica - Ilija Garasanina > 328.Rrust Kabashi - Timoka > 329.Rrustem pash Rrotulli - Vue Zikia > 330.Rrustem Statofci - Dr. Dusana Bulajia > 331.Radovan Zogoviq - Metohijska > 332.Rifat Burxheviq - Rifata Burdjevia > 333.Riadi - M. Crnjanskog > 334.Sadik Rama - Nevesinjska > 335.Said Najdeni - irila i Metodija > 336.Sahit Ag Suhareka - Petrovaka > 337.Sali Butka - Dr. Branka Zogovia > 338.Sali Mani - Bistrika > 339.Sali Nivica - Prote Mateje Nenadovia > 340.Salih Gjuk Dukagjini - Misarska > 341.Salih Shabani - Brdjanska > 342.Salih Gjyrisheci - Tarska > 343.Sami Peja - Kozaraka > 344.Sef Kosharja - uprijska > 345.Sefedin Begolli - Surinjska > 346.Selam Musai - Bogotika > 347.Selman Riza - Jovana J. Zmaja > 348.Sitnica - Sitnika > 349.Studentve - Studentska > 350.Sarajeva - Oplenaka > 351.Saranda - Iriska > 352.Selaniku - Solunska > 353.Sijarina - Sopoanska > 354.Stambolli - Rumska > 355.Struga - Petrovaradinska > 356.Shala e Bajgors - Loznika > 357.Sharri - elarevska > 358.Shefqet Zeka - Risanska > 359.Shkodra - Valevska > 360.Shkumbini - Gruzanska > 361.Shkupi - Branka opia > 362.Shtimja - Stimljanska > 363.Shandor Petfi - Slatinska > 364.Shaban Palluzha - Pribojska > 365.Shaban Shala - Palanaka > 366.Shaip Kamberi - Ace Mrdakovia > 367.Shaip Mustafa - Putnika > 368.Shefqet Shkupi - Ivana S. Jastrebova > 369.Shefki Desivojca - Milutina Bojia > 370.Sheh Hilmi Maliqi - Ozrenska > 371.Sheh Jonuzi - Jovana S. Popovia > 372.Sheh Mehmet Sezai - Emin Duraku > 373.Shot Galica - Jastrebaka > 374.Shptim Robaj - (rruga pr Sefali) > 375.Shuaip Spahija - Pozeska > 376.Shyt Mareci - Ugrinovaka > 377.Sknder eku - Majdanpeka > 378.Sokol Dobroshi - Popa Josifa > 379.Sokol Sopi - Majora V. Stojkovia > 380.Syl Hotla - Krnjevaka > 381.Sylejman Vokshi - Vojvode Stepanovia > 382.Stefan Mokranjac - Semberijska > 383.Svetozar Markoviq - Savska > 384.Tahir Kolgjini - Milosa N. Djuria > 385.Tahir Zajmi - Sime A. Igumana > 386.Teuta - Guanska > 387.Tabet e Llapashtics - Micka Krstia > 388.Tepelena - Lazarevaka > 389.Tetova - Stevana Sremca > 390.Tirana - Beogradska > 391.Tivari - Barska > 392.Tomorri - Vlasotinaka > 393.Trepa - Trepanska > 394.Tutini - Moraka > 395.Theodor II Muzaka - Kulska > 396.Thimi Mitko - Laze Lazarevia > 397.Tring Smajli - Ace Marovia > 398.UK-s - Krala Milutina > 399.Uk Sadiku - Vladisllava Stojanovia > 400.Ukshin Kovaica - Ljubinjska > 401.Ulqini - Vrbaska > 402.Uilliam Shekspir - Banjska > 403.Viktor Hygo - Svilajnaka > 404.Vodrou Vilson - Patrijarha Varnave > 405.Selman Kadria - Arandjelovaka > 406.Vellusha - Veluska > 407.Vlora - Svrliska > 408.Vushtrria - Vuiternska > 409.Vasil Andoni - Smederevska > 410.Vejsel Pagarusha - Rakovika > 411.Vllezrit Frashri - Avrama Petronijevia > 412.Vllezrit Grvalla - M. Tanaskovia > 413.Vllezrit Maastena - Dene Debelkovia > 414.Vllezrit Qiriazi - Majke Jevrosime > 415.Vllezrit Topulli - Zemunska > 416.Vllezrit Fazliu - Jabllanika > 417.Viktor Eftimiu - Bore Savia > 418.Visar Dodani - Taslidje > 419.Xheladin Deda - Borska > 420.Xheladin Hana - Vojvode P. Bojevia > 421.Xhelal Mitrovica - Kraljevia Marka > 422.Xhemail Prishtina - Kosani Ivana > 423.Xhemajli Berisha - Marka Milana > 424.Xhem Gostivari - Bore Stankovia > 425.Ymer Lutfi Paarizi - Alekse Nenadovia > 426.Ylfete Humolli - Hajduk Velka > 427.Ymer Berisha - Dr. Boska Zivkovia > 428.Ymer Elshani - Resnika > 429.Ymer Alushani - Palanaka > 430.Zara - Dunavska > 431.Zef Valentini - Milovana Glisia > 432.Zenel Bajraktari - Titelska > 433.Zejnel Salihu - Stefan Deanski > 434.Zekeria Rexha - Kraljevaka > 435.Zija Prishtina - Jovana Duia > 436.Zija Shemsiu - Kneza Lazara > 437.Zylyftar Poda - Bojnika > 438.Zhuj Selmani - Nosilaca Alb. spomenice > 439.Zhuk Haxhia - Javorska > 440.11 Marsi - amila Torbedari > 441.27 Nntori - Kordunjska > 442.2 Korriku - Kral Nikola > 443.7 Shtatori - Savnika > 444.1 Tetori - Moravska. > > SHENIM: > Ky variant u aprovua n Mbledhjen e prbashkt t Qeveris s Komuns s > Prishtins dhe t Komisionit pr Emrtimin e Lagjeve, t Shesheve dhe t > Rrrugve > t Prishtins, m 2 nntor 1999. > Me botimin n shtyp lshohet n diskutim publik, i cili do t zgjat deri m 13 > nntor 1999. Institucionet shkencore, partit politike, asociacionet > shoqrore dhe subjektet q mund t kontribuojn, me sugjerime, propozime e > vrejtje, mund t'i drejtohen kryetarit t Komisionit , kurse qytetart - > zyrave t Bashksive lokale. > Prgjegjsit e Zyrave lokale sugjerimet duhet t'i, selekcionojn deri m 15 > nntor 1999 dhe t'ia dorzojn Komisionit pran Komuns. > Sugjerimet q do t arrijn pas dats l5 nntor 1999 nuk do t mirren n > shqyrtim nga organi komunal kompetent. > Fehmi HUMOLLI, Sekretar i KELSHRR t Prishtins > > > Prishtin, 4 nntor 1999 > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From ssander at ans.net Fri Nov 5 10:18:39 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:18:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Main Street, Prishtina In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Besnik, artikulli shume me vend, sidomos zezaku me saksofon! - Sander On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Tung, > > ketu me poshte eshte nje artikull per Prishtinen i botuar ne fletushken > (newsletter) te universitetit ku studioj. Eshte pak i gjate, por kisha pase > deshire te lexoj reagimet tuaja. > > > ----------- > Main Street, Prishtina > > by Besnik Pula > > The main street of Prishtina, the capital of Kosova, is a typical > "socialist" street. It cuts through the center of the city. It is long, but > the road itself has only two lanes. The sidewalk is quite wide; at some > points the street resembles a mini-boulevard. Along the sidewalk there are > large, bounded rectangular plots of land that serve as gardens, as well as > a series of trees. Along the street there are mostly residential buildings, > but there are also administrative buildings, such as the old Communist > Party headquarters, the provincial government buildings, office buildings > of state-owned enterprises and row of shops, some of which formerly > state-owned, others belonging to private entrepreneurs that Yugoslavia?s > economic system had tolerated. The district where the main street is > located is known as Qendra, or the center. > > The street and the buildings around were built after World War II; the > street had not existed in Prishtina prior. The old, Ottoman period ?arshia > (market street) with its rows of small shops had been almost completely > leveled to make way for the new and ambitious socialist urban development > plans. The buildings on the main street were built primarily during the > 1950s and 60s. The type of buildings erected ? apartments and > administration offices ? reflected Prishtina?s status of the time as an > administrative outpost of Belgrade. This role would change as Prishtina > gradually turned into a fully-fledged capital governing an autonomous > province, and an Albanian cultural center boasting history and language > institutes, an academy of arts and sciences, media centers and a > university. As the city expanded, so did it its population. By the 1980s it > had around 150,000 inhabitants, quite a large place by Kosovar standards. > > It is in one of those old 1950s residential buildings on the main street > that I lived. I spent most of my childhood and early teens there. I walked > to school or my grandmother?s house on that street, drove by with my > parents, and played with friends who were, incidentally, both Albanian and > Serb. I have many fond memories on that street and, thus, the place will > always have sentimental value for me. > > I left Kosova in 1991, when Belgrade?s crackdown came full swing and ended > up closing the high school that I used to go to, and firing my father from > his managerial job at an export-import company and my mother from her > teaching job at the university as part of a campaign that ended up > dismissing most Albanians from their jobs. My subsequent visits back to the > main street left me deeply impressed with how drastically things can change > within only a few years. With each visit, it is on that street that I got > to see the effects of what seems to me like a sort of an undeclared, > leaderless and protracted revolution, which I only got to see episodes of. > > My first visit back since leaving in 1991 was in 1996. The bus from > Belgrade, where I had flown in from Zurich, arrived late in the evening in > the center of Prishtina, on the main street. After stepping off the bus, I > was shocked by what I saw when I compared that with the pictures in my head > from my early teenage years. Although no new major development had > occurred, the face of the street had been completely transformed. Official > bilinguialism (or even trilinguialism in some cases) had given way to > exclusively Cyrillic signs in Serbian (Albanian uses the Latin alphabet), > Serbian flags waving and Serbian music bustling from the local cafes in > what used to be a street with no loud music. The street, which used to be > called Marshal Tito, was now renamed Vidovdanska, based on the holy > Orthodox day of St. Vitius (Vidovdan), coinciding with the anniversary of > the Battle of Kosova of 1389. If the goal of the Serb "nationalizers" was > to make Kosova feel like Serbia, they were successful, at least on this > street. The main street of Prishtina ? the very same street where I had > grown up ? felt foreign to me. > > The same street had been the scene of Albanian demonstrations in 1981, when > tens of thousands demanded republican status for Kosova, and the late 1980s > and early 1990s, when similar numbers marched out to protest the removal of > Kosova?s autonomy. Six or seven years after the most recent protests, the > Albanians had not left the city but had withdrawn from its center to its > periphery. That is where the Albanian cafes and hang-outs were and where > most of the parallel high school and university classes were being held. It > was not particularly safe for an Albanian to go out walking on the main > street. You could get stopped by the police, questioned and detained for no > obvious reason, or, if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, > receive a beating by the young Serbian toughs, something that the police > would not be too eager to stop. One day during my stay in 1996, I decided > to stop by my uncle?s, who now lives in our old apartment on the main > street. He was not at home, so I decided to wait for him in front of the > building. With so many Serbs and armed policemen of the Serbian Interior > Ministry walking by me, I felt like I was the only Albanian there. But just > by sitting there, in front of my old apartment, I felt like, if only for a > brief moment, in some way I was claiming my old street back ? not for my > nation, but for myself and my memories, from the policemen, most of whom > were not even locals, and the people who had given it this new, supposedly > Serbian face. > > This year, my arrival in Prishtina was not on the main street, since the > taxi driver took me and Becky from Skopje, the capital of Macedonia, to my > grandmother?s house located in the outskirts of Prishtina. I got to see my > old street, the main street of Prishtina, two evenings later. > > During the evening hours, the main street of Prishtina traditionally turns > into a promenade ? or korzo, as it is known by its local name. This > tradition has run almost uninterrupted throughout the last few decades of > Prishtina?s history. During these hours the street is closed for automobile > traffic and is packed with strollers, young and old, who hang out, walk in > long columns (reminiscent of something that would be done in a prison or in > an army), and converse loudly. That July night that I went out to the main > street, I was once again astonished by the drastic transformation that had > occurred. Most of the Cyrillic signs had been broken or taken down. Tape > vendors playing extremely loud Albanian patriotic songs were located every > fifteen yards along the street, while Serb flags had been replaced by > Albanian and NATO flags (hung up by Albanians, not by NATO), which were > displayed all over the place. The cafes of the main street, once owned > exclusively by Serbs, were taken over by Albanians ? former Kosova > Liberation Army men, according to rumors. Even the old corner pastry shop, > which used to be owned by a Gorani (a small Slav minority in Kosova), where > me and my best friend used to go for sweets when we were kids, had new > Albanian owners. I did not see a single Serb or hear a single word in > Serbian on the street. (Incidentally, this is the same street were a few > weeks ago a Bulgarian-speaking UN worker was shot and killed by attackers > that thought he was a Serb.) Gone were the Gypsy shoe polishers that used > to set up their little self-made kits on the street, entertaining > themselves by using their brushes like drumsticks and beating them to a > rhythm against their wooden shoe panels when they had no customers. The > policemen of the Interior Ministry armed with AK-47s had been replaced by > young British soldiers wielding their Western-made rifles, with their > fingers always kept close the trigger. The numerous street vendors and the > many cars parked irregularly on the sidewalks ? practices that were never > tolerated in the past in this part of the city ? demonstrated the change in > norms and the lack of authority. Furthermore, the street had undergone > another name change. Now it is called Mother Teresa, named after the > world-renown helper of the poor, who is of Albanian origin. > > I walked around, looking at the crowds that seemed to have soared since my > visit of three years ago, or even from the korzo that I remember from my > childhood. Many of the people on the korzo, from what I?ve been told, are > Albanians from Kosova?s villages who have moved into Prishtina since the > end of the war. Many of the older residents of Prishtina (who, at least in > my book, tend to get a little snobby when speaking about their village > co-ethnics), complained that their city was being taken over by katundars ? > the Albanian word for peasants. To me, it once again felt like I was > anywhere but in Prishtina, either the one from my childhood or the one from > three years ago. This time it was an "Albanianized" version of the old > street, full of people with stern rural appearances and with loud and > sometimes irritating Albanian patriotic music. The main street had once > again received a face-lift, one that, just like the previous, did not > necessarily seem to make it any prettier. > > But the face-lift had another twist to it. Alongside the "Albanization" of > the street, the internationals were also making their presence felt. > Besides the patrolling KFOR soldiers and armored vehicles, the UN had set > up its headquarters in the former army headquarters, located near the main > street, and was repairing the old provincial government buildings ? which > had had their windows shattered from a NATO bomb that struck a nearby post > office ? to use them as offices. One could hear English, French, Italian, > German among other languages being spoken on the street, and see persons of > east and south Asian, Middle Eastern and African complexion on the street > and its cafes ? quite a novelty for Prishtina, which was never home to such > populations in its recent history. One day, in a scene reminiscent of Times > Square in New York City, a young black man, with a UN employee tag hanging > from his neck, had settled himself on the main street and was playing a > saxophone. He was playing jazz music alongside the tape vendors playing > Albanian patriotic music. This was another feature of the new, previously > unimaginable, face of the street. > > * * * > > The history of the main street, with its changing names, faces, languages > and symbols is in a way an analogy of the history of Kosova of the past > several decades. The street itself is a structure that has no inherent > character outside of the one prescribed to it by the people who use it, let > alone a political or national "identity." As new political and social > groups become influential or dominant, be they ethnically, ideologically, > or class based, or even part of some multinational force, all with > different values and ideologies, the appearance of the street transforms. > Control of the main street and the center of the city becomes part of the > struggle of each social or political group ? by dominating the street and > displaying their symbols on it they show that they dominate the politics of > the place. What is more interesting is that this happens without > necessarily being planned or coordinated from a specific center. Those who > put up Cyrillic signs and Serbian flags and renamed the street Vidovdanska > were probably not ordered by some office in Belgrade to do so. And those > who took those signs and flags down and replaced them with Albanian ones > were not ordered by anyone to do so either. Each was a seemingly > spontaneous process, but each with features too similar to those of the > other to be simply haphazard. > > This particular street went from being a representation of socialist > "modernization" and the socialist version of co-existence (the monument of > Brotherhood and Unity is located not very far from it), into being > "Serbianized," and then, similarly, into turning "Albanian," peculiarly > combined and co-existing with the multinational presence of NATO and the > United Nations. It served as a stage for mass politics: from the relative > stability of the 1970s, the center became the scene of riots in 1981, of > mass protests in 1989-90, of Serb manifestation of power for most of the > 1990s, and now of Albanian national assertion mixed with a multinational > presence. It went from displaying pictures of Tito, to posters of Slobodan > Milosevic, Vojislav Seselj, and Vuk Draskovic, and now of the killed KLA > founder Adem Jashari. > > And this is probably not the end of it. Will the street in the center of > Prishtina now be a scene of a contest between local social groups, the old > residents and the so-called "katundar" newcomers? Will it be the scene of a > contest between more radical nationalists preoccupied with collective > rights and those who are more inclined towards individual liberties? Will > it be the scene of a clash between Albanian nationalism and the > "multiethnic" society that the United Nations and NATO want to create? Or > will there be enough room on that small street in that city center to > accommodate everyone, saxophone players and tape vendors alike? At this > moment, in Prishtina, everyone seems to be vying for control of the center. > Literally and figuratively. > And I used to live there. > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From ssander at ans.net Fri Nov 5 10:20:05 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:20:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Main Street, Prishtina In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hahahahah Besnik...une i pari VOTOJ per ty! - Sander On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > At 12:36 AM -0500 11/5/99, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > >> Dyqani ku ishte "Krashi" tash eshte njefare mini-marketi, prone e "shtetit". > > > >cilit "shtet"? > > Ate pyetje e bej edhe une. > > >> Nuk kuptoj pse duhet te nderrohen emrat e Goleshit, Taslixhes apo edhe > >> Aktashit. Kam pershtypjen se ata qe i kane propozuar emrat e ri nuk kane > >> jetuar ndonjehere ne Prishtine. > > > >Sipoduket ashtu eshte... Nejse, rruget nderrohen prap mas 5 viteve kur > >vjen dikush tjeter ne pushtet... bej shaka... ;) > > Nuk do te isha habitur sikur te ndodhte keshtu... > > Natyrisht, kur behem une kryetar i komunes, rruget e Prishtines do te kene > keta emra: > > > Emertime lagjesh: > 1. Poshteqytet (downtown) - Qendra > 2. Kodra e amerikaneve - Dragodan > 3. Qendra e te ndriturve te kombit - Univerzitetski centar > 4. Qyteza e Cimes - Gradi Pejton > 5. "Te banesa e vjeter e Ibrahim Rugoves" - Kopusishte > 6. Qendra e te semurve - Bolniki centar > 7. Qendra e te papuneve - Studentski centar > 8. Kodra e Organizatave Humanitare - Sunani breg > > > Per emertime te shesheve: > 1. Sheshi i Prefektit tone te ndritur - Juri Gagarina > 2. Sheshi Free Kosova USA - n Dardani > 3. Sheshi Prishtina discussion list > 4. Sheshi i pronarit te Prishtina discussion list > 5. Sheshi Fadil Vokrri (te stadioni) > 6. Sheshi Rambo (kushtuar ushtarit te UCK-se) > > > Emra rrugesh: > 1. Bono (qytetar nderi) > 2. Bill Gates (pas donacionit te tre milione $) > 3. Howard Stern (per kontributin ne zhvillimin kulturor) > 4. Gili (ne kete rruge lejohet shitja e kasetave ne rruge) > 5. Fifth Avenue (te pazari) > 6. Arthur Avenue (qebaptore ne vend te pizzerive) > 7. Komandant Raketa (komandantit te UCK-se) > 8. Bruce Lee (per argetimin e shumte qe i beri rinise kosovare gjate 1980-ave) > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 10 18:00:51 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:00:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Perzgjedhja A? Message-ID: Cka jane keto perzgjedhje?? Etriti. ---- Przgjedhja A - Przgjedhja B 1:1 Prishtin, 10, nntor (Kosovapress) N ndeshjen Przgjedhja A - Przgjedhja B filloi aktiviteti i Federats s Fudbollit t Kosovs me moton: "Dita e Flamurit": Kshtu n kt muaj jan n plan disa ndeshje q do t organizoj Federata e Fudbollit t Kosovs. Sot u zhvillua ndeshja e par ku u takuan Przgjedhja A dhe Przgjedhja B t Ligs s dyt t Kosovs. Rezultati i ndeshjs ishte i barabart 1:1. Golat i shnuan Nehat Hamiti pr Przgjedhjen A, ndrsa pr Przgjedhjen B shnoi Shehu. Ndeshja ishte e mir, gjat tr ndeshjes t dy ekipet kan zhvilluar nj loj mesatare.(F.B.) From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 10 18:06:13 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:06:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Kronike e kryeqytetit Message-ID: Marr nga Kosovapress: Kronik e kryeqytetit Prishtin, 10 nntor (Kosovapress) Ende pa u harruar krimi i pushtuesit, rrugt e kryeqytetit u mbushn me tregtar t vegjl. Kapitali i tyre ishte t shisnin, mes t tjerash, dhe kaseta me muzik t ndryshme. Dita-dits zri nga autoparlantet e kasetofonve rritej. Aq rritej sa dikujt zuri tia vriste vesht. Thoshin se dita bhet m e mrziteshme n kt pshtjellim. Nn rrezllimin e diellit, zri i przier n do qoshe t rrugs kryesore tingllonte mjaft i "trhequr". Sado q shitsve u dukej e bukur kjo, sado q ata qllim t vetm kan t prfitojn ndonj para n k koh, nuk sht mir t ngrejn aq fort zrin. 'sht e vrteta, koht e fundit ky intensitet ka rn dukshm, por dhasht zoti t dgjojm muzik, por me karar, si thot populli. Ajo q i ngjet nj koncerti t mendur, me ki dhe shund t tepruar zvoglon vlerat e muziks son; kalimtart, por dhe t tjert, mysafir t rastit ose ata zyrtar, t shumtn t huaj, nuk sht mir t formojn nj prshtypje se orienti i paska thell rrnjt n kt mjedis. Ka dit q as kalimtari m i shkatht t mos mund t kaloj aq leht rrugt n t katr ant e Prishtins. Dukuria e vozitjes s shpejt dhe t pakontrolluar vjen si pasoj e atyre q "nxitojn", por q nuk din as vet arsyen e nj ngasje t till... Prdit sheh t rinj, madje dhe fmij t moshs nn pesmbdhjetvjeare, q ngasin vetura luksoze. N kt zinxhir t ngutis shpesh ndodhin dhe fatkeqsi. T shumtn viktima jan vet vozitsit e padshiruar. Fajin e kan prindrit, t cit sikur harrojn se fmija nuk bn t knaqet duke vozitur automjetin, aq m tepr kur dihet se n kryeqytet ka tani aq shum tollovi me veturat, saq jeta sht br nj rrezik. Duke shpresuar se kjo dukuri do t zvoglohet, ata q ngasin veturat shpejt, megjithat, t ken kujdes ndaj nxnsve, por edhe t tjerve, sepse jeta e njeriut vlen m shum se nj qejf i till vetvrass. Fundja liria erdhi. Fillimisht asaj iu gzuan i madh e i vogl. Secili n vete i kndon asaj, i dhuron vargje, trndafile, q flamur duan t'i bhen ksaj jete. Kalimtart aq nxitojn, sa harrojn se a ndezet drita pr ta apo jo. Do t thot shpeshher harrojn se n udhkryqe ka semafor q duhet pritur kur t jap shenjn e kalimit. Por, ka t atill q duan t kalojn me shpejtsi, bhet rrmuj n vendkalime dhe askush nuk e di kush ka prparsi: shofert apo kalimtart. Por kur ka tollovi, kur dikujt i ngutet vrtet, prse t vIhet jeta n rrezik. Nj sjellje me mendje t kthjellt, me nj forc karakteri, n kt koh dinamike sht m tepr se nj mrekulli. (I.P.) From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 10 18:09:29 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:09:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Studentet pranohen me miqesira? Message-ID: Kisha ka kalu koha e te njofshmeve... :( -------- Gjendje e vshtir n konviktet e studentve Prishtin, 10 nntor (Kosovapress) Pr shkak t pranimeve t reja dhe ndarjeve t dhomave sht krijuar nj tollovi e madhe n konviktet e studentve. Numri i studentve npr dhoma ka arritur deri n tet veta. Sipas disa studentve, kjo tollovi sht krijuar pr shkak t pranimit jo korrekt, sepse jan pranuar student me korrespondenc, absolvent dhe student t rrethins s Prishtins (Lipjanit, Fush-Kosovs). N t shumtn e rasteve studentt jan pranuar me ndrhyrje e miqsira. Prve ksaj, studentt ballafaqohen edhe me kushte mjaft t vshtira pr banim dhe msim, pr arsye se ka mungesa t shumta t rryms elektrike, t ujit dhe t ngrohjes. From etrit at alb-net.com Sat Nov 13 20:14:17 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 20:14:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] rrezimi i aeroplanit Message-ID: a ka naj lajm te ri se pse u rrzu aeroplani? a per shkak te mjegulles? etriti. From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Nov 15 12:20:26 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:20:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Clintoni ne Prishtine? Message-ID: Tung, a do te shkon Clintoni ne qytet apo vetem do ta vizitoje kampin amerikan Bondsteel? Do te duheshte me i organizu femijet ne shkollat fillore me dale me prite Clintonin neper rruge, kuptohet pa flamuj te vegjel te kuq... ;) Etriti. From UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com Mon Nov 15 15:59:04 1999 From: UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com (UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:59:04 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Clintoni ne Prishtine? Message-ID: <0.6b3181d9.2561ce18@aol.com> etrit, urani po pajtohet per flamur te kuq, por kapelen e pionerit me yll po don me e bajt....., e arbeni me at kapelen e revolucionareve francez (halloween '98) tung engjelli From etrit at alb-net.com Tue Nov 16 12:04:45 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:04:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid Message-ID: Lajm jashtezakonisht i mire. Duhet shfrytezuar kete rast kur gjithe keto kompani i dergojne perfaqesuesit e vet ne Kosove t'u tregojme se kemi studente dhe potencial qe t'a shendrojme Kosoven ne nje hi-tech oasis... Shikoni se si Irlanda me punetoret e lire dhe te edukuar u shendrua ne shtetin me me se shumti kompani teknologjike ne Komunitetin Evropian (Intel, Microsoft, Dell kane hapur fabrika dhe perfaqesi ne Irlande). Keshtu nese jemi te afte, keto kompani mund ta perdorin Kosoven per te hapur perfaqesite per tere Ballkanin, pasi qe kane hesap shfrytezimin e punetoreve te lire (cheap labor). Me kalimin e kohes behemi punetore te shtrenjte... ;-) Etriti. http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latest&f=99 111208.wlt&t=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml 12 November 1999 Text: First Internet Information Center Opening in Kosovo (Private\public partnership to provide access, training) (810) The first of seven Internet information centers in Kosovo is scheduled to open this week in Ferizaj "and will serve as a technology and media training facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access," according to a State Department announcement November 12. Several private firms teamed up in a private/public partnership with the State Department, the International Organization for Migration, and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to establish the centers. The Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered in the Pristina National and University Library. There will be six regional centers: in Ferizaj, Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and Mitrovica. Following is the text of the notice to the press: (begin text) U.S. Department of State Office of the Spokesman Press Statement Notice to the Press November 12, 1999 THE FIRST INTERNET INFORMATION ASSISTANCE CENTER TO OPEN THIS WEEK IN FERIZAJ, KOSOVO The U.S. Department of State Office of International Information Programs, the International Organization for Migration and USAID's Office of Transition Initiatives have formed an innovative public/private partnership to establish seven Internet information centers in Kosovo. The first of the seven centers is scheduled to open this week in Ferizaj and will serve as a technology and media training facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access. The initial phase of the project will focus on the construction of the centers, hiring and training of local staff, and establishment of local and wide area networks to provide internet connectivity. The Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered in the Pristina National and University Library in downtown Pristina. There will be six regional centers established in the cities of Ferizaj, Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and Mitrovica. All of the centers are centrally located and open to the general public. The Pristina National and University Library will be transformed into a state-of-the-art technology and information center. The center will include a "virtual" on-line library, US$1 million in book donations, a special children's learning center, a cyber-cafe and several other community information projects. The goal of this effort in Kosovo is to establish Pristina, with its National and University Library, as the "Information Center" in Kosovo - a lively environment where all Kosovars can come to learn about their history, prepare for their future, surf the net and develop the necessary skills to rebuild civil society. The Director of the Pristina National and University Library, Mr. Mehmet Gerguri, will be visiting the United States at the end of November as part of the U.S. Department of State International Visitors Program. While in the U.S., Mr. Gerguri will learn about community programming as he visits some of the country's most renowned public libraries in Washington, D.C., Chicago and New York. He will receive instruction from technologists and specialists in the field of Library Sciences and observe the latest in preservation techniques. As the project progresses, each regional center will be able to develop and implement its own unique programs tailored to meet the specific needs of each community. Through the State Department's Global Technology Corps, the Office of International Information Programs will continue to support the centers by providing government and private-sector speakers who will conduct seminars and interactive training in areas such as: computer-based languages and applications, journalism, media and e-commerce. The organizations taking the lead in this partnership include Adobe Systems, Inc., Apple Computer, Inc., Autometric, Inc., The Brother's Brother Foundation, Canon Computer Systems, Inc., Cisco Systems, Inc., The David Sarnoff Corporation, The Document Company Xerox, Gateway and the Waitt Family Foundation, Hewlett-Packard Company, IDG Books Worldwide, Inc., The Internet Society, 3M, The Markle Foundation, MVS/USA, Northwest Airlines, REAL Software, Riso, Inc., RPO Vienna (STATE), The Sabre Foundation, Inc., Scholastic Inc., Silicon Graphics, Inc., State Department Educational and Cultural Affairs and Surf Watch Software. This partnership will deliver hardware, software, connectivity, technical assistance, training and financial support. The contributions from the private sector highlight the important role that U.S. companies can play in the reconstruction of Kosovo. "Bringing modern technology to Kosovo through the Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative is one of the great ways that the information technology community can help the relief effort. This public/private partnership is an important step forward in our effort to help the Kosovars," said Gateway Chairman and CEO Ted Waitt. Journalists interested in further information on the Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative should contact one of the following individuals: -- Mary Thomas, Office of Press Outreach, thomasm at panet.us-state.gov (202) 647-3455 -- Nancy Ozeas, Office of International Information Programs, nozeas at usia.gov (202) 619-6340 (end text) (Distributed by the Office of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State) _______________________________________________ Alst-L mailing list: Alst-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/alst-l From ssander at ans.net Tue Nov 16 14:55:30 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Etrit, besoj se shume me vend eshte ky koment. mirepo duhet ta kuptojme, se po te njejtit investues duhet te kene njefare lidhje me Irlanden si kulturore ashtu edhe linguistike. Besoj se e njejta do te ishte e mundshme per Kosoven kur i njejti 'scenario' mund te persritej edhe ne komunitetin tone. Pra te kemi bilionere! tung - Sander On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Lajm jashtezakonisht i mire. Duhet shfrytezuar kete rast kur gjithe keto > kompani i dergojne perfaqesuesit e vet ne Kosove t'u tregojme se kemi > studente dhe potencial qe t'a shendrojme Kosoven ne nje hi-tech > oasis... Shikoni se si Irlanda me punetoret e lire dhe te edukuar u > shendrua ne shtetin me me se shumti kompani teknologjike ne Komunitetin > Evropian (Intel, Microsoft, Dell kane hapur fabrika dhe perfaqesi ne > Irlande). Keshtu nese jemi te afte, keto kompani mund ta perdorin Kosoven > per te hapur perfaqesite per tere Ballkanin, pasi qe kane hesap > shfrytezimin e punetoreve te lire (cheap labor). Me kalimin e kohes > behemi punetore te shtrenjte... ;-) > > Etriti. > > http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latest&f=99 > 111208.wlt&t=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml > > 12 November 1999 > > Text: First Internet Information Center Opening in Kosovo > > (Private\public partnership to provide access, training) (810) > > The first of seven Internet information centers in Kosovo is scheduled > to open this week in Ferizaj "and will serve as a technology and media > training facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access," > according to a State Department announcement November 12. > Several private firms teamed up in a private/public partnership > with the State Department, the International Organization for Migration, > and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to establish > the centers. > The Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered > in the Pristina National and University Library. There will be six > regional centers: in Ferizaj, Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and > Mitrovica. > > Following is the text of the notice to the press: > > (begin text) > > U.S. Department of State > Office of the Spokesman > Press Statement > > Notice to the Press > November 12, 1999 > > THE FIRST INTERNET INFORMATION ASSISTANCE CENTER TO OPEN THIS WEEK IN > FERIZAJ, KOSOVO > > The U.S. Department of State Office of International Information > Programs, the International Organization for Migration and USAID's > Office of Transition Initiatives have formed an innovative > public/private partnership to establish seven Internet information > centers in Kosovo. The first of the seven centers is scheduled to open > this week in Ferizaj and will serve as a technology and media training > facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access. > The initial phase of the project will focus on the construction of > the centers, hiring and training of local staff, and establishment of > local and wide area networks to provide internet connectivity. The > Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered in the > Pristina National and University Library in downtown Pristina. There > will be six regional centers established in the cities of Ferizaj, > Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and Mitrovica. All of the centers are > centrally located and open to the general public. > The Pristina National and University Library will be transformed > into a state-of-the-art technology and information center. The center > will include a "virtual" on-line library, US$1 million in book > donations, a special children's learning center, a cyber-cafe and > several other community information projects. The goal of this effort in > Kosovo is to establish Pristina, with its National and University > Library, as the "Information Center" in Kosovo - a lively environment > where all Kosovars can come to learn about their history, prepare for > their future, surf the net and develop the necessary skills to rebuild > civil society. > The Director of the Pristina National and University Library, Mr. > Mehmet Gerguri, will be visiting the United States at the end of > November as part of the U.S. Department of State International Visitors > Program. While in the U.S., Mr. Gerguri will learn about community > programming as he visits some of the country's most renowned public > libraries in Washington, D.C., Chicago and New York. He will receive > instruction from technologists and specialists in the field of Library > Sciences and observe the latest in preservation techniques. > As the project progresses, each regional center will be able to > develop and implement its own unique programs tailored to meet the > specific needs of each community. Through the State Department's Global > Technology Corps, the Office of International Information Programs will > continue to support the centers by providing government and > private-sector speakers who will conduct seminars and interactive > training in areas such as: computer-based languages and applications, > journalism, media and e-commerce. > The organizations taking the lead in this partnership include Adobe > Systems, Inc., Apple Computer, Inc., Autometric, Inc., The Brother's > Brother Foundation, Canon Computer Systems, Inc., Cisco Systems, Inc., > The David Sarnoff Corporation, The Document Company Xerox, Gateway and > the Waitt Family Foundation, Hewlett-Packard Company, IDG Books > Worldwide, Inc., The Internet Society, 3M, The Markle Foundation, > MVS/USA, Northwest Airlines, REAL Software, Riso, Inc., RPO Vienna > (STATE), The Sabre Foundation, Inc., Scholastic Inc., Silicon Graphics, > Inc., State Department Educational and Cultural Affairs and Surf Watch > Software. This partnership will deliver hardware, software, > connectivity, technical assistance, training and financial support. The > contributions from the private sector highlight the important role that > U.S. companies can play in the reconstruction of Kosovo. > "Bringing modern technology to Kosovo through the Kosovo > Information Assistance Initiative is one of the great ways that the > information technology community can help the relief effort. This > public/private partnership is an important step forward in our effort to > help the Kosovars," said Gateway Chairman and CEO Ted Waitt. > Journalists interested in further information on the Kosovo > Information Assistance Initiative should contact one of the following > individuals: > > -- Mary Thomas, Office of Press Outreach, thomasm at panet.us-state.gov > (202) 647-3455 > > -- Nancy Ozeas, Office of International Information Programs, > nozeas at usia.gov (202) 619-6340 > > (end text) > > (Distributed by the Office of International Information Programs, U.S. > Department of State) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Alst-L mailing list: Alst-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/alst-l > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Tue Nov 16 15:14:35 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:14:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Por besoj se ne Kosove tani kemi mjafte te rinj te cilet flasin nga nje gjuhe te huaj, dhe e dyta e cila mendoj se eshte shume me rendesi, me duket se te rinjte ne Kosove tani jane te etur per dijeni, dhe jane te gatshem te mesojne gjera te reja, siq jane shkencat kompjuterike apo teknologjia ne pergjithesi (sidomos pas vakuumit 10 vjecare nen sundimin serb). Besoj se kush eshte biznismen mund te hape kampe te trajnimit per sisteme kompjuterike, nuk besoj se do te kete problem per kah interesimi... ;-) Etriti. On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Etrit, > > besoj se shume me vend eshte ky koment. mirepo duhet ta kuptojme, se po te > njejtit investues duhet te kene njefare lidhje me Irlanden si kulturore > ashtu edhe linguistike. Besoj se e njejta do te ishte e mundshme per > Kosoven kur i njejti 'scenario' mund te persritej edhe ne komunitetin > tone. Pra te kemi bilionere! > > tung > > - Sander > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Lajm jashtezakonisht i mire. Duhet shfrytezuar kete rast kur gjithe keto > > kompani i dergojne perfaqesuesit e vet ne Kosove t'u tregojme se kemi > > studente dhe potencial qe t'a shendrojme Kosoven ne nje hi-tech > > oasis... Shikoni se si Irlanda me punetoret e lire dhe te edukuar u > > shendrua ne shtetin me me se shumti kompani teknologjike ne Komunitetin > > Evropian (Intel, Microsoft, Dell kane hapur fabrika dhe perfaqesi ne > > Irlande). Keshtu nese jemi te afte, keto kompani mund ta perdorin Kosoven > > per te hapur perfaqesite per tere Ballkanin, pasi qe kane hesap > > shfrytezimin e punetoreve te lire (cheap labor). Me kalimin e kohes > > behemi punetore te shtrenjte... ;-) > > > > Etriti. > > > > http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latest&f=99 > > 111208.wlt&t=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml > > > > 12 November 1999 > > > > Text: First Internet Information Center Opening in Kosovo From ssander at ans.net Tue Nov 16 15:41:40 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:41:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pajtohem me mendimin tim, por kureshtja ime eshte ne faktin se biznismenet shqiptare mund te mos te jene te gatshem per je gje te tille..aty qendron dallimi qe e permenda me pare ne lidhje me irlanden e cila, sic e permendi edhe Etriti, momentalisht po paraftyrohet me ekonomine me dinamike ne bote! tung - Sander On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Por besoj se ne Kosove tani kemi mjafte te rinj te cilet flasin nga nje > gjuhe te huaj, dhe e dyta e cila mendoj se eshte shume me rendesi, me > duket se te rinjte ne Kosove tani jane te etur per dijeni, dhe jane te > gatshem te mesojne gjera te reja, siq jane shkencat kompjuterike apo > teknologjia ne pergjithesi (sidomos pas vakuumit 10 vjecare nen sundimin > serb). > > Besoj se kush eshte biznismen mund te hape kampe te trajnimit per sisteme > kompjuterike, nuk besoj se do te kete problem per kah interesimi... ;-) > > Etriti. > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Etrit, > > > > besoj se shume me vend eshte ky koment. mirepo duhet ta kuptojme, se po te > > njejtit investues duhet te kene njefare lidhje me Irlanden si kulturore > > ashtu edhe linguistike. Besoj se e njejta do te ishte e mundshme per > > Kosoven kur i njejti 'scenario' mund te persritej edhe ne komunitetin > > tone. Pra te kemi bilionere! > > > > tung > > > > - Sander > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > > > Lajm jashtezakonisht i mire. Duhet shfrytezuar kete rast kur gjithe keto > > > kompani i dergojne perfaqesuesit e vet ne Kosove t'u tregojme se kemi > > > studente dhe potencial qe t'a shendrojme Kosoven ne nje hi-tech > > > oasis... Shikoni se si Irlanda me punetoret e lire dhe te edukuar u > > > shendrua ne shtetin me me se shumti kompani teknologjike ne Komunitetin > > > Evropian (Intel, Microsoft, Dell kane hapur fabrika dhe perfaqesi ne > > > Irlande). Keshtu nese jemi te afte, keto kompani mund ta perdorin Kosoven > > > per te hapur perfaqesite per tere Ballkanin, pasi qe kane hesap > > > shfrytezimin e punetoreve te lire (cheap labor). Me kalimin e kohes > > > behemi punetore te shtrenjte... ;-) > > > > > > Etriti. > > > > > > http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latest&f=99 > > > 111208.wlt&t=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml > > > > > > 12 November 1999 > > > > > > Text: First Internet Information Center Opening in Kosovo > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Tue Nov 16 16:17:35 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:17:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > Pajtohem me mendimin tim, por kureshtja ime eshte ne faktin se biznismenet > shqiptare mund te mos te jene te gatshem per je gje te tille..aty qendron > dallimi qe e permenda me pare ne lidhje me irlanden e cila, sic e permendi > edhe Etriti, momentalisht po paraftyrohet me ekonomine me dinamike ne > bote! Me vjen mire qe pajtohesh me mendimin tend... ;-) Etriti. > > tung > > - Sander From nderim78 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 16 16:32:04 1999 From: nderim78 at hotmail.com (Nderim Kamberi) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:32:04 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid Message-ID: <19991116213206.7551.qmail@hotmail.com> vec ju me me tregu qysh me u bo billionere. Une jam hazer... nderimi >From: Sander Sinishtaj >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >CC: web-design at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:30 -0500 (EST) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com Tue Nov 16 11:56:54 1999 >Received: from [205.216.248.65] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB9FB01FF00A6D821979ECDD8F84198EE0; Tue Nov 16 11:56:53 1999 >Received: from alb-net.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11590;Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:41 -0500 (EST) >Received: from sanman.ny.ans.net (sanman.ny.ans.net [147.225.51.117])by >alb-net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11549;Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:36 >-0500 (EST) >Received: from localhost (ssander at localhost)by sanman.ny.ans.net >(8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13706;Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:31 -0500 (EST) >X-Authentication-Warning: sanman.ny.ans.net: ssander owned process doing >-bs >X-Sender: ssander at sanman.ny.ans.net >In-Reply-To: >Message-ID: >Sender: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com >Errors-To: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com >X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 >Precedence: bulk >List-Id: Prishtina Discussion Forum (Prishtina, Kosova) > >X-BeenThere: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >Etrit, > >besoj se shume me vend eshte ky koment. mirepo duhet ta kuptojme, se po te >njejtit investues duhet te kene njefare lidhje me Irlanden si kulturore >ashtu edhe linguistike. Besoj se e njejta do te ishte e mundshme per >Kosoven kur i njejti 'scenario' mund te persritej edhe ne komunitetin >tone. Pra te kemi bilionere! > >tung > >- Sander > > >On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Lajm jashtezakonisht i mire. Duhet shfrytezuar kete rast kur gjithe >keto > > kompani i dergojne perfaqesuesit e vet ne Kosove t'u tregojme se kemi > > studente dhe potencial qe t'a shendrojme Kosoven ne nje hi-tech > > oasis... Shikoni se si Irlanda me punetoret e lire dhe te edukuar u > > shendrua ne shtetin me me se shumti kompani teknologjike ne Komunitetin > > Evropian (Intel, Microsoft, Dell kane hapur fabrika dhe perfaqesi ne > > Irlande). Keshtu nese jemi te afte, keto kompani mund ta perdorin >Kosoven > > per te hapur perfaqesite per tere Ballkanin, pasi qe kane hesap > > shfrytezimin e punetoreve te lire (cheap labor). Me kalimin e kohes > > behemi punetore te shtrenjte... ;-) > > > > Etriti. > > > > >http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latest&f=99 > > 111208.wlt&t=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml > > > > 12 November 1999 > > > > Text: First Internet Information Center Opening in Kosovo > > > > (Private\public partnership to provide access, training) (810) > > > > The first of seven Internet information centers in Kosovo is scheduled > > to open this week in Ferizaj "and will serve as a technology and media > > training facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access," > > according to a State Department announcement November 12. > > Several private firms teamed up in a private/public partnership > > with the State Department, the International Organization for Migration, > > and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to establish > > the centers. > > The Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered > > in the Pristina National and University Library. There will be six > > regional centers: in Ferizaj, Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and > > Mitrovica. > > > > Following is the text of the notice to the press: > > > > (begin text) > > > > U.S. Department of State > > Office of the Spokesman > > Press Statement > > > > Notice to the Press > > November 12, 1999 > > > > THE FIRST INTERNET INFORMATION ASSISTANCE CENTER TO OPEN THIS WEEK IN > > FERIZAJ, KOSOVO > > > > The U.S. Department of State Office of International Information > > Programs, the International Organization for Migration and USAID's > > Office of Transition Initiatives have formed an innovative > > public/private partnership to establish seven Internet information > > centers in Kosovo. The first of the seven centers is scheduled to open > > this week in Ferizaj and will serve as a technology and media training > > facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access. > > The initial phase of the project will focus on the construction of > > the centers, hiring and training of local staff, and establishment of > > local and wide area networks to provide internet connectivity. The > > Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered in the > > Pristina National and University Library in downtown Pristina. There > > will be six regional centers established in the cities of Ferizaj, > > Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and Mitrovica. All of the centers are > > centrally located and open to the general public. > > The Pristina National and University Library will be transformed > > into a state-of-the-art technology and information center. The center > > will include a "virtual" on-line library, US$1 million in book > > donations, a special children's learning center, a cyber-cafe and > > several other community information projects. The goal of this effort in > > Kosovo is to establish Pristina, with its National and University > > Library, as the "Information Center" in Kosovo - a lively environment > > where all Kosovars can come to learn about their history, prepare for > > their future, surf the net and develop the necessary skills to rebuild > > civil society. > > The Director of the Pristina National and University Library, Mr. > > Mehmet Gerguri, will be visiting the United States at the end of > > November as part of the U.S. Department of State International Visitors > > Program. While in the U.S., Mr. Gerguri will learn about community > > programming as he visits some of the country's most renowned public > > libraries in Washington, D.C., Chicago and New York. He will receive > > instruction from technologists and specialists in the field of Library > > Sciences and observe the latest in preservation techniques. > > As the project progresses, each regional center will be able to > > develop and implement its own unique programs tailored to meet the > > specific needs of each community. Through the State Department's Global > > Technology Corps, the Office of International Information Programs will > > continue to support the centers by providing government and > > private-sector speakers who will conduct seminars and interactive > > training in areas such as: computer-based languages and applications, > > journalism, media and e-commerce. > > The organizations taking the lead in this partnership include Adobe > > Systems, Inc., Apple Computer, Inc., Autometric, Inc., The Brother's > > Brother Foundation, Canon Computer Systems, Inc., Cisco Systems, Inc., > > The David Sarnoff Corporation, The Document Company Xerox, Gateway and > > the Waitt Family Foundation, Hewlett-Packard Company, IDG Books > > Worldwide, Inc., The Internet Society, 3M, The Markle Foundation, > > MVS/USA, Northwest Airlines, REAL Software, Riso, Inc., RPO Vienna > > (STATE), The Sabre Foundation, Inc., Scholastic Inc., Silicon Graphics, > > Inc., State Department Educational and Cultural Affairs and Surf Watch > > Software. This partnership will deliver hardware, software, > > connectivity, technical assistance, training and financial support. The > > contributions from the private sector highlight the important role that > > U.S. companies can play in the reconstruction of Kosovo. > > "Bringing modern technology to Kosovo through the Kosovo > > Information Assistance Initiative is one of the great ways that the > > information technology community can help the relief effort. This > > public/private partnership is an important step forward in our effort to > > help the Kosovars," said Gateway Chairman and CEO Ted Waitt. > > Journalists interested in further information on the Kosovo > > Information Assistance Initiative should contact one of the following > > individuals: > > > > -- Mary Thomas, Office of Press Outreach, thomasm at panet.us-state.gov > > (202) 647-3455 > > > > -- Nancy Ozeas, Office of International Information Programs, > > nozeas at usia.gov (202) 619-6340 > > > > (end text) > > > > (Distributed by the Office of International Information Programs, U.S. > > Department of State) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Alst-L mailing list: Alst-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/alst-l > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ssander at ans.net Tue Nov 16 16:34:12 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:34:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hehehe....po de :) - Sander On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > > Pajtohem me mendimin tim, por kureshtja ime eshte ne faktin se biznismenet > > shqiptare mund te mos te jene te gatshem per je gje te tille..aty qendron > > dallimi qe e permenda me pare ne lidhje me irlanden e cila, sic e permendi > > edhe Etriti, momentalisht po paraftyrohet me ekonomine me dinamike ne > > bote! > > Me vjen mire qe pajtohesh me mendimin tend... ;-) > > Etriti. > > > > tung > > > > - Sander > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From nderim78 at hotmail.com Tue Nov 16 16:44:09 1999 From: nderim78 at hotmail.com (Nderim Kamberi) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:44:09 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library Message-ID: <19991116214410.17919.qmail@hotmail.com> pse a e kam keq a?! Ka plot biznismena si une qe s'kan lidhje me tru e qe dojne mu bo bilionere. Mire, une vec thash ashtu, se i kam disa lidhje... :) But you get my pooint... >From: Sander Sinishtaj >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:34:12 -0500 (EST) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com Tue Nov 16 13:35:34 1999 >Received: from alb-net.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13663;Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:34:30 -0500 (EST) >Received: from sanman.ny.ans.net (sanman.ny.ans.net [147.225.51.117])by >alb-net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13623for >; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:34:17 -0500 (EST) >Received: from localhost (ssander at localhost)by sanman.ny.ans.net >(8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13807for ; Tue, 16 >Nov 1999 16:34:12 -0500 (EST) >X-Authentication-Warning: sanman.ny.ans.net: ssander owned process doing >-bs >X-Sender: ssander at sanman.ny.ans.net >In-Reply-To: >Message-ID: >Sender: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com >Errors-To: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com >X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 >Precedence: bulk >List-Id: Prishtina Discussion Forum (Prishtina, Kosova) > >X-BeenThere: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >hehehe....po de :) > >- Sander > > >On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > > > > Pajtohem me mendimin tim, por kureshtja ime eshte ne faktin se >biznismenet > > > shqiptare mund te mos te jene te gatshem per je gje te tille..aty >qendron > > > dallimi qe e permenda me pare ne lidhje me irlanden e cila, sic e >permendi > > > edhe Etriti, momentalisht po paraftyrohet me ekonomine me dinamike ne > > > bote! > > > > Me vjen mire qe pajtohesh me mendimin tend... ;-) > > > > Etriti. > > > > > > tung > > > > > > - Sander > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From pulab at gusun.georgetown.edu Tue Nov 16 16:39:11 1999 From: pulab at gusun.georgetown.edu (Besnik Pula) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 16:39:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sander, afiniteti kulturor mund te luaj rol dytesor, por firmat investojne kryesisht ne baze te kalkulimeve ekonomike dhe te perfitimit qe do te sjelle investimi. Shume firma amerikane kane investuar ne Kine, Indi, Kore, Indonezi, Singapur e shtete te tjera me te cilat udheheqesit e tyre nuk kane kurrfare afersie kulturore. Per kete arsye, me nje politke te mencur Kosova ka shansen e saj qe te terheq investitore te jashtem. Pajtohem me ty rreth rolit te komunitetit shqiptaro-amerikan dhe mendoj se shume shqiptaro-amerikane do te investonin ne Kosove se ne ndonje vend tjeter. Por edhe ata investimet e tyre do t'i llogarisin, sepse askush nuk deshiron te gjuaje pare, qofte edhe nga patriotizmi. Kam degjuar per shume shqiptaro-amerikane qe kane qene te interesuar te investojne ne Shqiperi por qe jane dekurajuar nga korrupsioni dhe jostabiliteti, apo qe kane humbur investimet e tyre per keto arsye. -Besniku On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > besoj se shume me vend eshte ky koment. mirepo duhet ta kuptojme, se po te > njejtit investues duhet te kene njefare lidhje me Irlanden si kulturore > ashtu edhe linguistike. Besoj se e njejta do te ishte e mundshme per > Kosoven kur i njejti 'scenario' mund te persritej edhe ne komunitetin > tone. Pra te kemi bilionere! From ssander at ans.net Tue Nov 16 17:23:20 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 17:23:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Besnik, sa i perket firmave Amerikaneve dhe investimit te tyre neper shtet e jashtme, pajtohem me faktin se qellimi ishte perfitimi i tyre ekonomik, po jo edhe ndikimi ne ndonje perparim local apo shtetror. Po qe se nuk ekszition baza per fillim te mirfillte te nje prosperiteti ekonomik, valle a i intereson Motoralles se a po kane shqiptaret pare me pagu telefonin apo JO, edhe pse me duket se drejtori i PTK-se e hudhi poshte oferten e tyre per udheheqjen e lidhjeve cellullare apo komunikimeve ajrore (wireless) Per deri sa qe investuesit kane fitim personal, gje eshte eshte e pashmangshme ne nje sistem te ri si ne Kosove, besoj qe ata do e konsiderojne punen e tyre te kryer. Duavetem te shtoj se per Kosoven, qe te kete perparim eknomik, duhet ta kete nje shoqeri qe do te ishte e gatshme te udheheqe kete far oportuniteti ne favor te saj, pasi qe edhe investuesti punojne ne te njejten menyre~ Megjithate jam me se i bindur se po kjo do te ndodhe, mirepo me kohe. tung -Sander On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Besnik Pula wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Sander, > > afiniteti kulturor mund te luaj rol dytesor, por firmat investojne > kryesisht ne baze te kalkulimeve ekonomike dhe te perfitimit qe do te > sjelle investimi. > > Shume firma amerikane kane investuar ne Kine, Indi, Kore, Indonezi, > Singapur e shtete te tjera me te cilat udheheqesit e tyre nuk kane > kurrfare afersie kulturore. Per kete arsye, me nje politke te mencur > Kosova ka shansen e saj qe te terheq investitore te jashtem. > > Pajtohem me ty rreth rolit te komunitetit shqiptaro-amerikan dhe mendoj se > shume shqiptaro-amerikane do te investonin ne Kosove se ne ndonje vend > tjeter. Por edhe ata investimet e tyre do t'i llogarisin, sepse askush > nuk deshiron te gjuaje pare, qofte edhe nga patriotizmi. Kam degjuar per > shume shqiptaro-amerikane qe kane qene te interesuar te investojne ne > Shqiperi por qe jane dekurajuar nga korrupsioni dhe jostabiliteti, apo qe > kane humbur investimet e tyre per keto arsye. > > -Besniku > > On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Sander Sinishtaj wrote: > > > besoj se shume me vend eshte ky koment. mirepo duhet ta kuptojme, se po te > > njejtit investues duhet te kene njefare lidhje me Irlanden si kulturore > > ashtu edhe linguistike. Besoj se e njejta do te ishte e mundshme per > > Kosoven kur i njejti 'scenario' mund te persritej edhe ne komunitetin > > tone. Pra te kemi bilionere! > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From zlqq2 at ACCESS.ETSU.EDU Wed Nov 17 09:42:08 1999 From: zlqq2 at ACCESS.ETSU.EDU (zlqq2 at ACCESS.ETSU.EDU) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid In-Reply-To: <19991116213206.7551.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Nderim Kamberi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > vec ju me me tregu qysh me u bo billionere. Une jam hazer... > > nderimi > > hahhahhhahahah e de qy > >From: Sander Sinishtaj > >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > >CC: web-design at alb-net.com > >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina National Library will receive aid > >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:30 -0500 (EST) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >From prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com Tue Nov 16 11:56:54 1999 > >Received: from [205.216.248.65] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailB9FB01FF00A6D821979ECDD8F84198EE0; Tue Nov 16 11:56:53 1999 > >Received: from alb-net.com (localhost [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com > >(8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11590;Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:41 -0500 (EST) > >Received: from sanman.ny.ans.net (sanman.ny.ans.net [147.225.51.117])by > >alb-net.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11549;Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:36 > >-0500 (EST) > >Received: from localhost (ssander at localhost)by sanman.ny.ans.net > >(8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA13706;Tue, 16 Nov 1999 14:55:31 -0500 (EST) > >X-Authentication-Warning: sanman.ny.ans.net: ssander owned process doing > >-bs > >X-Sender: ssander at sanman.ny.ans.net > >In-Reply-To: > >Message-ID: > >Sender: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com > >Errors-To: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com > >X-Mailman-Version: 1.1 > >Precedence: bulk > >List-Id: Prishtina Discussion Forum (Prishtina, Kosova) > > > >X-BeenThere: prishtina-l at alb-net.com > > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > >Etrit, > > > >besoj se shume me vend eshte ky koment. mirepo duhet ta kuptojme, se po te > >njejtit investues duhet te kene njefare lidhje me Irlanden si kulturore > >ashtu edhe linguistike. Besoj se e njejta do te ishte e mundshme per > >Kosoven kur i njejti 'scenario' mund te persritej edhe ne komunitetin > >tone. Pra te kemi bilionere! > > > >tung > > > >- Sander > > > > > >On Tue, 16 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > > > Lajm jashtezakonisht i mire. Duhet shfrytezuar kete rast kur gjithe > >keto > > > kompani i dergojne perfaqesuesit e vet ne Kosove t'u tregojme se kemi > > > studente dhe potencial qe t'a shendrojme Kosoven ne nje hi-tech > > > oasis... Shikoni se si Irlanda me punetoret e lire dhe te edukuar u > > > shendrua ne shtetin me me se shumti kompani teknologjike ne Komunitetin > > > Evropian (Intel, Microsoft, Dell kane hapur fabrika dhe perfaqesi ne > > > Irlande). Keshtu nese jemi te afte, keto kompani mund ta perdorin > >Kosoven > > > per te hapur perfaqesite per tere Ballkanin, pasi qe kane hesap > > > shfrytezimin e punetoreve te lire (cheap labor). Me kalimin e kohes > > > behemi punetore te shtrenjte... ;-) > > > > > > Etriti. > > > > > > > >http://www.usia.gov/cgi-bin/washfile/display.pl?p=/products/washfile/latest&f=99 > > > 111208.wlt&t=/products/washfile/newsitem.shtml > > > > > > 12 November 1999 > > > > > > Text: First Internet Information Center Opening in Kosovo > > > > > > (Private\public partnership to provide access, training) (810) > > > > > > The first of seven Internet information centers in Kosovo is scheduled > > > to open this week in Ferizaj "and will serve as a technology and media > > > training facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access," > > > according to a State Department announcement November 12. > > > Several private firms teamed up in a private/public partnership > > > with the State Department, the International Organization for Migration, > > > and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) to establish > > > the centers. > > > The Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered > > > in the Pristina National and University Library. There will be six > > > regional centers: in Ferizaj, Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and > > > Mitrovica. > > > > > > Following is the text of the notice to the press: > > > > > > (begin text) > > > > > > U.S. Department of State > > > Office of the Spokesman > > > Press Statement > > > > > > Notice to the Press > > > November 12, 1999 > > > > > > THE FIRST INTERNET INFORMATION ASSISTANCE CENTER TO OPEN THIS WEEK IN > > > FERIZAJ, KOSOVO > > > > > > The U.S. Department of State Office of International Information > > > Programs, the International Organization for Migration and USAID's > > > Office of Transition Initiatives have formed an innovative > > > public/private partnership to establish seven Internet information > > > centers in Kosovo. The first of the seven centers is scheduled to open > > > this week in Ferizaj and will serve as a technology and media training > > > facility, providing Kosovars with free Internet access. > > > The initial phase of the project will focus on the construction of > > > the centers, hiring and training of local staff, and establishment of > > > local and wide area networks to provide internet connectivity. The > > > Kosovo Information Assistance Initiative will be headquartered in the > > > Pristina National and University Library in downtown Pristina. There > > > will be six regional centers established in the cities of Ferizaj, > > > Gjakova, Prizren, Peje, Gjilan, and Mitrovica. All of the centers are > > > centrally located and open to the general public. > > > The Pristina National and University Library will be transformed > > > into a state-of-the-art technology and information center. The center > > > will include a "virtual" on-line library, US$1 million in book > > > donations, a special children's learning center, a cyber-cafe and > > > several other community information projects. The goal of this effort in > > > Kosovo is to establish Pristina, with its National and University > > > Library, as the "Information Center" in Kosovo - a lively environment > > > where all Kosovars can come to learn about their history, prepare for > > > their future, surf the net and develop the necessary skills to rebuild > > > civil society. > > > The Director of the Pristina National and University Library, Mr. > > > Mehmet Gerguri, will be visiting the United States at the end of > > > November as part of the U.S. Department of State International Visitors > > > Program. While in the U.S., Mr. Gerguri will learn about community > > > programming as he visits some of the country's most renowned public > > > libraries in Washington, D.C., Chicago and New York. He will receive > > > instruction from technologists and specialists in the field of Library > > > Sciences and observe the latest in preservation techniques. > > > As the project progresses, each regional center will be able to > > > develop and implement its own unique programs tailored to meet the > > > specific needs of each community. Through the State Department's Global > > > Technology Corps, the Office of International Information Programs will > > > continue to support the centers by providing government and > > > private-sector speakers who will conduct seminars and interactive > > > training in areas such as: computer-based languages and applications, > > > journalism, media and e-commerce. > > > The organizations taking the lead in this partnership include Adobe > > > Systems, Inc., Apple Computer, Inc., Autometric, Inc., The Brother's > > > Brother Foundation, Canon Computer Systems, Inc., Cisco Systems, Inc., > > > The David Sarnoff Corporation, The Document Company Xerox, Gateway and > > > the Waitt Family Foundation, Hewlett-Packard Company, IDG Books > > > Worldwide, Inc., The Internet Society, 3M, The Markle Foundation, > > > MVS/USA, Northwest Airlines, REAL Software, Riso, Inc., RPO Vienna > > > (STATE), The Sabre Foundation, Inc., Scholastic Inc., Silicon Graphics, > > > Inc., State Department Educational and Cultural Affairs and Surf Watch > > > Software. This partnership will deliver hardware, software, > > > connectivity, technical assistance, training and financial support. The > > > contributions from the private sector highlight the important role that > > > U.S. companies can play in the reconstruction of Kosovo. > > > "Bringing modern technology to Kosovo through the Kosovo > > > Information Assistance Initiative is one of the great ways that the > > > information technology community can help the relief effort. This > > > public/private partnership is an important step forward in our effort to > > > help the Kosovars," said Gateway Chairman and CEO Ted Waitt. > > > Journalists interested in further information on the Kosovo > > > Information Assistance Initiative should contact one of the following > > > individuals: > > > > > > -- Mary Thomas, Office of Press Outreach, thomasm at panet.us-state.gov > > > (202) 647-3455 > > > > > > -- Nancy Ozeas, Office of International Information Programs, > > > nozeas at usia.gov (202) 619-6340 > > > > > > (end text) > > > > > > (Distributed by the Office of International Information Programs, U.S. > > > Department of State) > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Alst-L mailing list: Alst-L at alb-net.com > > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/alst-l > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________ > >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From etrit at alb-net.com Thu Nov 18 14:48:58 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:48:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Ne Prishtine u hap Zyra e Kanades Message-ID: Shpresoj se ne te ardhmen e shpejte keto zyre do te transformohen ne Ambasada... ;) Etriti ------- N Prishtin u hap Zyra e Kanadas Prishtin, 18 nntor (QIK) - N kuadrin e hapjes s zyrave t shteteve perndimore n Kosov, dje n Prishtin u hap zyra e Kandas. "Jam shum i knaqur dhe i lumtur t jem ktu pr t hapur Byron e Kanadas n Kosov", deklaroi ministri i Jashtm i Kanadas, Lloyd Axworthy, t martn, para se t ngriste flamurin e Kanadas n oborrin e nj shtpi n Prishtin. Ministri i Jashtm kanadez, bashk me ministren e ktij vendi pr bashkpunim ndrkombtar, Maria Minna, erdhn n nj vizit njditshe n Prishtin pr t pruruar Zyrn shtetrore kanadeze n Kosov dhe pr t njoftuar pr donacionet qeveritare kanadeze n Kosov. From etrit at alb-net.com Thu Nov 18 16:41:51 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 16:41:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Rruget e Prishtines... (fwd) Message-ID: Emrat qe mu duken inteserant prej Kosovapress-it... 102.Gjasht Lisat e Likashanit - Zlatiborska 159.Jahjabej Dukagjinzade - Petra Koia 173.Kosta Novakoviq - Kragujevaka 199.Konferenca e Rambujes - Hilandarska 387.Tabet e Llapashtics - Micka Krstia 440.11 Marsi - amila Torbedari 441.27 Nntori - Kordunjska 444.1 Tetori - Moravska. cka jane keto data? From besnik.grajqevci at bt.com Fri Nov 19 08:58:34 1999 From: besnik.grajqevci at bt.com (besnik.grajqevci at bt.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 13:58:34 -0000 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Rruget e Prishtines... (fwd) Message-ID: <71DA16F18D32D2119A1D0000F8FE9A94040DF363@mbtlipnt01.btlabs.bt.co.uk> Etriti pyet: 440.11 Marsi - amila Torbedari 441.27 Nntori - Kordunjska 444.1 Tetori - Moravska. cka jane keto data? Keto jane datat e demonstratave. Besniku _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l From etrit at alb-net.com Fri Nov 19 14:14:30 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:14:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] K.F. PRISHTINA NE U.E.F.A? In-Reply-To: <19991119084939.14660.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: that page was last modified 21.07.1998 ;-) etrit. On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Giovanni Armillotta wrote: > I dashur Etrit, > I found a stupid Yugoslavian page that wrote KF > Prishtin?n is in Yugoslavian football championship!!!! > http://www.totw.org/yugoslav/yugoslav.html > I wrote to my friend of Z?ri i Kosov?s to know infos > about Klubi i Futbollit Prishtin?. > > > --- Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > __________________________Albanian Discussion > > List________________________ > > Archives: > > > http://listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu/archives/albanian.html > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Giovanni Armillotta wrote: > > > > > Dear Etrit, > > > did you see my Albanian sport page devoted to KF > > > Prishtin?? > > > > > > http://members.tripod.com/foreignaffairs/armillotta/gallery.html > > > > Yes I saw it, it is wonderfully done. > > Congratulations... > > > > Do you have any new information on the Prishtina > > soccer team? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Etrit. > > > > > > Mirupafshim > > > G.A. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Opinions expressed on ALBANIAN do NOT necessarily > > reflect the views of the > > owner, co-owners and/or moderators, nor any of > > their host institutions. > > **>>> Technical support: > > albanian-request at listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu <<<<** > > > > > ===== > Giovanni Armillotta - CP/PO Box 226 - 56100 Pisa - Italy > http://foreignaffairs.tripod.com/armillotta/home_it.html (italiano) > http://foreignaffairs.tripod.com/armillotta/home_en.html (english) > Albanian Foreign Affairs History, moderated by Giovanni Armillotta: http://www.egroups.com/list/albanian-foreign-affairs/info.html > PAVAR?SI P?R KOSOV?N HEROIKE > INDIPENDENZA PER L'EROICA KOSOVA > INDEPENDENCE FOR HEROIC KOSOVA > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > From dardan at alb-net.com Sat Nov 20 15:56:22 1999 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 1999 15:56:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] test Message-ID: test From etrit at alb-net.com Sun Nov 21 14:18:32 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 14:18:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] LA Times Article Message-ID: Taken from the LA Article: Extremist Albanians Target Moderates in Kosovo Strife http://www.latimes.com/news/front/19991120/t000105784.html High school principal Sinan Gashi was one of the founding members of the LDK in the town of Glogovac a decade ago, when Rugova led the party on a campaign of peaceful resistance against mounting repression under Slobodan Milosevic, now the Yugoslav president. In July 1995, Serbian police arrested Gashi while he was on his way to a party meeting and, after taking him to the local police station, beat him from 3 in the afternoon to 11 at night. Then they loaded Gashi into a car and drove him 15 miles northeast to police headquarters in the provincial capital, Pristina, where other officers took over the interrogation. "They broke two of my ribs, and my fingernails all fell out from an infection," he said through a translator. "But the hardest part was that I lost my eye because one of the police hit me so hard with his fist that the lens of my glasses shattered and severed my retina." Gashi spoke from his bed while recovering from another savage beating--not by the Serbs this time, but by ethnic Albanian men who came to his office at the high school Nov. 5 and said they represented the "Ministry of Order." Four men in black walked into Gashi's office around 2:30 p.m. and ordered him to go with them, Gashi said. Three more men were waiting outside the office, and another group stood by two cars at the schoolyard's gates, where students were milling about, wondering what was going on. "At first, I didn't want to go," Gashi said. "But for two reasons, I agreed: I saw they were going to take me violently, and I didn't want my students to see me dragged through the school. And as a professional educator, I don't want to bring violence to the school. If just a door slammed, the students jump." Gashi rode in the back of a white Volkswagen Golf, between two men, and while a red car followed, they drove toward Pristina but pulled off onto a side road near a forest, where they ordered Gashi to get out. "As I got out, one of them took my glasses off and the other one slammed me onto the ground," Gashi said. "They started beating me up with sticks and [with] their feet. They kicked me in the ear, and I saw the blood flowing. They told me: 'If you tell anyone we beat you up, we will kill you.' " As Gashi lay on the ground, taking blow after blow, the men accused him of speaking out against the KLA and Adem Jashari. The Serbs killed Jashari, a thuggish KLA leader, along with most of his family at the start of Kosovo's civil war in March 1998. "And they said, 'You are trampling on the martyrs' blood,' " Gashi recalled from his bed. "I told them, 'This is not the truth.' And they said: 'We know everything. We have all the information.' " The beating stopped after Gashi passed out, but about 20 minutes later, he regained consciousness. After he put his glasses back on, the men pulled him deeper into the woods and beat him even harder, spattering his jacket with blood and tearing it, he said. He fainted again and came to around 4:30 p.m., when he crawled "like a drunken man" to the roadside and waved down a passing car for help. If you read between the lines of the attackers' message, Gashi said, they may have been saying to LDK supporters: "We beat up the [local] leader of the LDK, so you are even smaller." "I torture myself wondering why these things are done--not as a politician, but as a simple citizen," Gashi added. "I never did any harm to my nation nor to anybody else. And I never deceived anyone. We are surrounded by ideological enemies." Gashi is luckier than Haki Imeri. The 52-year-old local LDK leader was found slain Nov. 3 near Srbica, about 20 miles west of Pristina, Jerliu confirmed. The previous day, men dressed in black who said they were police officers had led Imeri away from the village of Broja. Read the full article at: http://www.latimes.com/news/front/19991120/t000105784.html From etrit at alb-net.com Sun Nov 21 23:09:57 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:09:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] U mshel aeroporti i Prishtines Message-ID: Kosovo Airport Shut to Civilians By DANICA KIRKA Associated Press Writer PRISTINA, Yugoslavia (AP) - NATO shut down Kosovo's airport to civilian traffic after a team investigating an aid agency plane crash questioned whether miscommunication between the airliner and controllers may have played a role in the accident, a NATO spokesman said Sunday. Investigators are trying to find out why the regular charter flight by the World Food Program to ferry humanitarian workers to the province slammed into a hillside in foggy weather, killing 24 people. The Nov. 12 flight missed clearing a remote mountain in northern Kosovo by only a few yards. The French team in charge of the crash requested the shutdown of the airport Saturday. NATO spokesman Roland Lavoie stressed that the shutdown of the airport in the capital, Pristina, was a precaution. The closure was intended to give investigators time to examine the rules followed by civilian and military aircraft to see what differences exist between them and if those differences may have been a factor in the plane crash. No conclusions had been reached, he said. ``This is not an interim report,'' Lavoie said. The propeller-driven ATR-42 disappeared while on approach to the airport in Pristina about two hours after leaving Rome. NATO officials searched for the plane for 11 hours after it disappeared from radar, locating its shattered wreckage on a 4,593-foot mountain near the village of Picelj, 20 miles northwest of here. From UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com Sun Nov 21 23:28:53 1999 From: UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com (UMMAGUMA73 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:28:53 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] U mshel aeroporti i Prishtines Message-ID: <0.ff075c8.256a2085@aol.com> ......... deri tani kam dit se prishtinaliket jan pak ma mendjemdhaja se femrat tjera ne kosov(femra, mos u ofendoni, por eshte nga eksperienca ime dhe e shokeve te mi lol), po ne kohen e fundit po bindem se edhe djemet e prishtines jan "bajata" ne nje menyre. Kjo list eshte formuar qe te komunikojm ne mes veti apo edhe te njihemi mes veti , sidomos ne prishtinalit!! e si duket kjo eshte lista me me se paku "traffic" qe ekziston. shoqe dhe shok?,........engjelli From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Nov 22 18:28:00 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:28:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :( Message-ID: Ne nje artikull shkruante se Clintoni do ta viziton Ferizajin por jo Prishtinen... :-( Mos ka dikush ndonje informate tjeter? Ja nje artikull tjeter prej Boston Globe. Etriti. Dreams fading as cold hits Kosovo By Theresa Agovino, Globe Correspondent, 11/22/99 PRISTINA, Yugoslavia - Last week, the local theater in Kosovo staged a production of ''Hamlet.'' The tale of the tortured Danish prince was a perfect choice, many insisted. ''Hamlet suits us,'' said journalist Virtyt Gacaferi. ''People here are confused, depressed.'' -- Lexoni krejt artikullin ne: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/326/nation/Dreams_fading_as_cold_hits_Kosovo+.shtml From dardan at alb-net.com Tue Nov 23 05:53:08 1999 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:53:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: lshonja i sy n'pacit kohe http://www.prishtina.com From dardan at alb-net.com Tue Nov 23 05:54:19 1999 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 05:54:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A paska edhe Ferizaji aeroport a? Tung On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Ne nje artikull shkruante se Clintoni do ta viziton Ferizajin por jo > Prishtinen... :-( Mos ka dikush ndonje informate tjeter? > > Ja nje artikull tjeter prej Boston Globe. > > Etriti. > > Dreams fading as cold hits Kosovo > > By Theresa Agovino, Globe Correspondent, 11/22/99 > > PRISTINA, Yugoslavia - Last week, the local theater > in Kosovo staged a production of ''Hamlet.'' > > The tale of the tortured Danish prince was a perfect > choice, many insisted. > ''Hamlet suits us,'' said journalist Virtyt > Gacaferi. ''People here are confused, depressed.'' > > -- > Lexoni krejt artikullin ne: > http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/326/nation/Dreams_fading_as_cold_hits_Kosovo+.shtml > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From mikoks at hotmail.com Wed Nov 24 11:52:12 1999 From: mikoks at hotmail.com (Mentor Mikullovci) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:52:12 CET Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <19991124105212.42304.qmail@hotmail.com> My email is: mikoks at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 24 12:02:22 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:02:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <19991124105212.42304.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Mentor Mikullovci wrote: > My email is: mikoks at hotmail.com Mire se erdhe ne liste, Mentor... Mos lidhesh nga Prishtina pahiri? Etriti. From etrit at alb-net.com Wed Nov 24 15:29:07 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:29:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Dardan Blaku wrote: > A paska edhe Ferizaji aeroport a? Prej aeroportit Clinton-i ka shku me helikopter ne Ferizaj, dmth nuk e ka vizitu qytetin e Prishtines... Siq e din, aeroporti i Sllatines (apo 'Ueslli Kllark') eshte bajagi larg qytetit... ;-) Lexo: http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/112499clinton-kosovo.html Nuk di a ka aeroport Ferizaji... Etriti. > > Tung > > On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > Ne nje artikull shkruante se Clintoni do ta viziton Ferizajin por jo > > Prishtinen... :-( Mos ka dikush ndonje informate tjeter? > > > > Ja nje artikull tjeter prej Boston Globe. > > > > Etriti. > > > > Dreams fading as cold hits Kosovo > > > > By Theresa Agovino, Globe Correspondent, 11/22/99 > > > > PRISTINA, Yugoslavia - Last week, the local theater > > in Kosovo staged a production of ''Hamlet.'' > > > > The tale of the tortured Danish prince was a perfect > > choice, many insisted. > > ''Hamlet suits us,'' said journalist Virtyt > > Gacaferi. ''People here are confused, depressed.'' > > > > -- > > Lexoni krejt artikullin ne: > > http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/326/nation/Dreams_fading_as_cold_hits_Kosovo+.shtml From ssander at ans.net Wed Nov 24 15:30:16 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:30:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Etrit, Ferizaji nuk ka Aeroport! - Sander On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Dardan Blaku wrote: > > > A paska edhe Ferizaji aeroport a? > > Prej aeroportit Clinton-i ka shku me helikopter ne Ferizaj, dmth nuk e ka > vizitu qytetin e Prishtines... Siq e din, aeroporti i Sllatines (apo > 'Ueslli Kllark') eshte bajagi larg qytetit... ;-) > Lexo: http://www.nytimes.com/library/world/europe/112499clinton-kosovo.html > > Nuk di a ka aeroport Ferizaji... > > Etriti. > > > > Tung > > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > > > > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > > > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > > > > > Ne nje artikull shkruante se Clintoni do ta viziton Ferizajin por jo > > > Prishtinen... :-( Mos ka dikush ndonje informate tjeter? > > > > > > Ja nje artikull tjeter prej Boston Globe. > > > > > > Etriti. > > > > > > Dreams fading as cold hits Kosovo > > > > > > By Theresa Agovino, Globe Correspondent, 11/22/99 > > > > > > PRISTINA, Yugoslavia - Last week, the local theater > > > in Kosovo staged a production of ''Hamlet.'' > > > > > > The tale of the tortured Danish prince was a perfect > > > choice, many insisted. > > > ''Hamlet suits us,'' said journalist Virtyt > > > Gacaferi. ''People here are confused, depressed.'' > > > > > > -- > > > Lexoni krejt artikullin ne: > > > http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/326/nation/Dreams_fading_as_cold_hits_Kosovo+.shtml > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From Daqki at aol.com Wed Nov 24 16:37:20 1999 From: Daqki at aol.com (Daqki at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:37:20 EST Subject: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :( Message-ID: <0.4b49516e.256db490@aol.com> In a message dated 11/24/99 12:31:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, ssander at ans.net interesant pse ende po perdoren termet serbe si "Uroshevac" per Ferizaj ...poashtu ne pllakatin ne sallen e sportit ne Ferizaj eshte perdore termi Kosovo" per ne vend te atij Kosova?! arbeni From puka at usa.net Wed Nov 24 18:02:36 1999 From: puka at usa.net (G.S) Date: 24 Nov 99 18:02:36 EST Subject: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :(] Message-ID: <19991124230237.7407.qmail@nw178.netaddress.usa.net> >interesant pse ende po perdoren termet serbe si "Uroshevac" per Ferizaj >...poashtu ne pllakatin ne sallen e sportit ne Ferizaj eshte perdore >termi Kosovo" per ne vend te atij Kosova?! Ferizaj -Kosovo ,, kan dashte nashta mi qetesu shkijet, po kadal kadale po shkojin krejt Kosovo e po vjen Kosova ne skenen nderkombetar. Lexhojeni edhe qito , interesant eshte. General fears for Kosovo's future BY MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR THE people of Kosovo face an uncertain future because of the absence of any political settlement for the province, Lieutenant-General Sir Mike Jackson, the former commander of the Nato-led peacekeeping force in Kosovo, said yesterday. General Jackson, who won the Distinguished Service Order for his leadership in Kosovo, said he feared that the development of "a truly multi-ethnic society" in the Yugoslav province was a long way off. The Dayton accord, ending the conflict in Bosnia, included a political settlement. "But there is no such settlement for Kosovo," he said, speaking at the Royal United Services Institute for Defence Studies in London. "Is Kosovo to remain a part of Yugoslavia or will it be independent?" he asked. Even though Western Governments have not supported independence for Kosovo, General Jackson suggested that if Montenegro became independent, Kosovo would "almost certainly" go the same way. However, he said, at present there were still "old scores" being settled in Kosovo and ethnic hatred remained the key obstacle to a stable society. Although Kfor, the Kosovo peacekeeping force he commanded until early October, had succeeded in reducing crime in the province, murders were still being carried out, and most of those killed were Serbs. General Jackson said that while he was in command, Kfor soldiers had had to live in Serb flats in isolated places to protect families, and "old ladies had to be escorted by soldiers to buy their bread". "We're talking about people's attitudes and perceptions . . . there's a long way to go," he said. He even wondered whether it would be possible for Serb "personnel" ever to return to Kosovo to monitor the border and guard the religious sites - one of the agreements of the peace deal signed with the Serbs. Hundreds, not thousands, of Serb troops were supposed to be allowed back into Kosovo to perform specific tasks. However, General Jackson indicated that it was hard to envisage this happening in the near future. He also gave a warning that the command of the Kfor operation in Kosovo was now more complex because there were troops from 29 countries involved in the peacekeeping, instead of the original five. One crucial lesson of the Kosovo mission, he said, was the importance of a "framework nation" being in charge of the overall peacekeeping force. Without a lead nation commanding the headquarters, which in the first four months of the Kfor mission was in his hands as the British commander, there would have been no cohesion. General Jackson, introduced before his lecture at the institute as a national hero, paid tribute to the way the Serb military had managed to withdraw all their troops and armour from a territory the size of Wales in "a few hours short of 11 days". He reminded the audience that on June 12, the day Kfor entered Kosovo, it was "about a tenth of the size of the withdrawing force". General Jackson, who commands the Nato Allied Rapid Reaction Corps, in Germany, dismissed the unexpected arrival of Russian troops at Pristina airport just before Kfor entered Kosovo as a "sideplay". ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 From dardan at alb-net.com Wed Nov 24 06:15:08 1999 From: dardan at alb-net.com (Dardan Blaku) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:15:08 -0500 Subject: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :(] In-Reply-To: <19991124230237.7407.qmail@nw178.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: Gembi.... Mendova mos osht Galina Schneider =) Thash ku paska msu shqip -----Original Message----- From: prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com [mailto:prishtina-l-admin at alb-net.com]On Behalf Of G.S Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 6:03 PM To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com Subject: Re: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :(] --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l >interesant pse ende po perdoren termet serbe si "Uroshevac" per Ferizaj >...poashtu ne pllakatin ne sallen e sportit ne Ferizaj eshte perdore >termi Kosovo" per ne vend te atij Kosova?! Ferizaj -Kosovo ,, kan dashte nashta mi qetesu shkijet, po kadal kadale po shkojin krejt Kosovo e po vjen Kosova ne skenen nderkombetar. Lexhojeni edhe qito , interesant eshte. General fears for Kosovo's future BY MICHAEL EVANS, DEFENCE EDITOR THE people of Kosovo face an uncertain future because of the absence of any political settlement for the province, Lieutenant-General Sir Mike Jackson, the former commander of the Nato-led peacekeeping force in Kosovo, said yesterday. General Jackson, who won the Distinguished Service Order for his leadership in Kosovo, said he feared that the development of "a truly multi-ethnic society" in the Yugoslav province was a long way off. The Dayton accord, ending the conflict in Bosnia, included a political settlement. "But there is no such settlement for Kosovo," he said, speaking at the Royal United Services Institute for Defence Studies in London. "Is Kosovo to remain a part of Yugoslavia or will it be independent?" he asked. Even though Western Governments have not supported independence for Kosovo, General Jackson suggested that if Montenegro became independent, Kosovo would "almost certainly" go the same way. However, he said, at present there were still "old scores" being settled in Kosovo and ethnic hatred remained the key obstacle to a stable society. Although Kfor, the Kosovo peacekeeping force he commanded until early October, had succeeded in reducing crime in the province, murders were still being carried out, and most of those killed were Serbs. General Jackson said that while he was in command, Kfor soldiers had had to live in Serb flats in isolated places to protect families, and "old ladies had to be escorted by soldiers to buy their bread". "We're talking about people's attitudes and perceptions . . . there's a long way to go," he said. He even wondered whether it would be possible for Serb "personnel" ever to return to Kosovo to monitor the border and guard the religious sites - one of the agreements of the peace deal signed with the Serbs. Hundreds, not thousands, of Serb troops were supposed to be allowed back into Kosovo to perform specific tasks. However, General Jackson indicated that it was hard to envisage this happening in the near future. He also gave a warning that the command of the Kfor operation in Kosovo was now more complex because there were troops from 29 countries involved in the peacekeeping, instead of the original five. One crucial lesson of the Kosovo mission, he said, was the importance of a "framework nation" being in charge of the overall peacekeeping force. Without a lead nation commanding the headquarters, which in the first four months of the Kfor mission was in his hands as the British commander, there would have been no cohesion. General Jackson, introduced before his lecture at the institute as a national hero, paid tribute to the way the Serb military had managed to withdraw all their troops and armour from a territory the size of Wales in "a few hours short of 11 days". He reminded the audience that on June 12, the day Kfor entered Kosovo, it was "about a tenth of the size of the withdrawing force". General Jackson, who commands the Nato Allied Rapid Reaction Corps, in Germany, dismissed the unexpected arrival of Russian troops at Pristina airport just before Kfor entered Kosovo as a "sideplay". ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _____________________________________________________ Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html From mikoks at hotmail.com Thu Nov 25 12:50:09 1999 From: mikoks at hotmail.com (Mentor Mikullovci) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:50:09 CET Subject: [Prishtina-l] Tung Erit Message-ID: <19991125115009.63209.qmail@hotmail.com> Jo nuk lidhna nga Prishtina,nga Franca. Po ti prej nga po lidhesh? >From: Etrit Bardhi >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) >Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:02:22 -0500 (EST) > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > >On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Mentor Mikullovci wrote: > > > My email is: mikoks at hotmail.com > >Mire se erdhe ne liste, Mentor... Mos lidhesh nga Prishtina pahiri? > >Etriti. > > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mikoks at hotmail.com Thu Nov 25 13:32:37 1999 From: mikoks at hotmail.com (Mentor Mikullovci) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:32:37 CET Subject: [Prishtina-l] Tung Erit Message-ID: <19991125123237.60248.qmail@hotmail.com> >From: "Mentor Mikullovci" >Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >Subject: [Prishtina-l] Tung Erit >Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:50:09 CET > > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > >Jo nuk lidhna nga Prishtina,nga Franca. Po ti prej nga po lidhesh? > >>From: Etrit Bardhi >>Reply-To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >>To: prishtina-l at alb-net.com >>Subject: Re: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) >>Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:02:22 -0500 (EST) >> >> --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- >> Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l >> >>On Wed, 24 Nov 1999, Mentor Mikullovci wrote: >> >> > My email is: mikoks at hotmail.com >> >>Mire se erdhe ne liste, Mentor... Mos lidhesh nga Prishtina pahiri? >> >>Etriti. >> >> >>_____________________________________________________ >>Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >>http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l >> > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >_____________________________________________________ >Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Sat Nov 27 12:30:21 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:30:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <19991125115009.63209.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Mentor Mikullovci wrote: > Jo nuk lidhna nga Prishtina,nga Franca. Po ti prej nga po lidhesh? > Mentor, une lidhem, nga Nju Jorku. Mos ka dikush ne liste qe lidhet nga Prishtina? Etriti. From etrit at alb-net.com Sat Nov 27 12:58:10 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:58:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Re: skijimi ne brezovice Message-ID: Tung, a ka shku ende dikush ne Brezovice per skijim? ja se cka me shkroi nje shok nga prishtina kur morri vesh se do te shkojme ne skijim ne pennsylvania (nje shtet ne SHBA)... sllallomi neper mina... :-( ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 25 Nov 99 08:39:20 MET From: A.M. Ej valla pernime "nuk po dini me bo sefa", nese jau mer mendja me ardh ketu ne Brezovice, keni edhe zgjedhje ma te madhe: me mete ne teleferik se po na nalet rryma shpesh, edhe ne vend te flamura me bo kthesa, bojna se jane minat e shenume, keshtu qe ma mer mendja bash ni avanture e vertete kish me qene. From etrit at alb-net.com Sat Nov 27 13:20:53 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:20:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Re: [Prishtina-l] Clinton-i nuk do ta viziton Prishtinen... :(] In-Reply-To: <19991124230237.7407.qmail@nw178.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: Gembi shkruan: > > Ferizaj -Kosovo ,, kan dashte nashta mi qetesu shkijet, po kadal kadale po > shkojin krejt Kosovo e po vjen Kosova ne skenen nderkombetar. > Ndoshta duhet me nderru emrin e Kosoves ne Dardania, e e emrin e Prishtines ne Ulpiana... atehere nuk do te kemi problem me Pristina-Prishtina, Kosovo-Kosova... :-) Natyrisht, duhet me i pyte banoret ne referendum... Etriti. From etrit at alb-net.com Sat Nov 27 13:58:50 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 13:58:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Prishtina is still unsafe... :-( Message-ID: Kosovo Battles Resurgence of Organized Crime By DAVID HOLLEY, LA Times Staff Writer PRISTINA, Yugoslavia--The brown Mercedes without license plates slowed on a downtown street, and the driver called out to a teenage girl. "He pointed at me and said, 'You, come closer,' " recalled the 13-year-old ethnic Albanian. "I didn't go near but said, 'What do you want?' He said, 'Don't be a bad girl.' I said, 'What?' Then he rolled up the window and left." The incident here in Kosovo's capital lasted only a moment. But it was one that could strike fear into any parent's heart. "I'm afraid even for myself, not to speak of my daughter," said Mevlyde, the girl's mother, who asked that only her first name be published. Her greatest crime worry, Mevlyde said, is the kidnapping of children who are then sexually abused or sold into prostitution. "I think the ones involved in this are mostly Albanians from Albania," she added. Read the full story at: http://www.latimes.com/news/front/19991127/t000108149.html From dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de Sun Nov 28 05:42:52 1999 From: dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de (Divi Beineke) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 11:42:52 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] Private effort for help to Kosova via Internet in Germany Message-ID: <3841072C.7F60A937@osnabrueck.netsurf.de> Hello dear friends, in July this year we started an effort to organize private help to people in Kosova via internet. You?ll find a short inof-text below. We would be very glad, to get in contact with people living in Kosova direktly! Please have a look at our website http://www.osnabrueck.netsurf.d:8080/~dbein/wiederaufbau.htm Most of the offers and demands there are written in german language but you?ll find an english index and translations as far as we are able to. Don?t worry to write in english and please send us news in english language as well, if you think, they should be published there! With kind regards Divi Beineke -- Divi Beineke Redaktion "Wiederaufbau Kosova" Germany -- mailto:dbein at osnabrueck.netsurf.de, mailto:beineke at kosova-info-line.de Wiederaufbau Kosova und Kosova-Info-Line gemeinsam f?r Kosova http://www.osnabrueck.netsurf.de:8080/~dbein/wiederaufbau.htm --------------------- Info-text --------------------------- This is the translation of the german text below: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Helping to rebuild Kosova - an offer on the internet People in Kosova need help - both financial and humanitarian - to rebuild their country and develop a peaceful society. There have been quite a lot of requests and offers via e-mail as regard help to rebuild Kosova. However, not everybody knows who to turn to. We have therefore decided to establish a platform for the coordination of "supply and demand" on the internet. Both private individuals and companies as well as all humanitarian organisations are invited to make use of website Rebuilding Kosova http://www.osnabrueck.netsurf.d:8080/~dbein/wiederaufbau.htm to place their offers and requests via e-mail or to check the site for offers. So feel free to check our site and make use of it. Please alert others to this offer on the internet, too. We hope to be able to contribute to the reconstruction of Kosova this way. --------------------------------------- Wiederaufbauhilfe Kosova - ein Angebot im Internet Menschen in Kosova brauchen Hilfe - materiell und menschlich - f?r den Wiederaufbau ihres Landes und die Entwicklung einer friedlichen Gesellschaft. Im Internet gibt es per e-mail bereits sehr viele Anfragen und Angebote, beim Wiederaufbau in Kosova zu helfen. L?ngst nicht jeder wei? jedoch, an wen sie / er sich mit Angeboten (Arbeitskraft, Material etc.) wenden kann. Deshalb haben wir uns entschlossen, eine M?glichkeit f?r den Austausch von Angebot und Nachfrage im Internet anzubieten. Auf den Webseiten, die ?ber ************************************************************** Wiederaufbau Kosova http://www.osnabrueck.netsurf.de:8080/~dbein/wiederaufbau.htm ************************************************************** erreichbar sind, sind sowohl Privatleute, als auch Firmen und nicht zuletzt alle Humanit?ren Organisationen eingeladen, ihre Angebote und Nachfragen abzulegen - vorerst noch per e-mail - oder nach entsprechenden Angeboten zu suchen. Bitte sehen Sie sich unsere Seiten an, machen Sie andere auf dieses Internet-Angebot aufmerksam und nehmen Sie selbst diesen Service in Anspruch!! Wir hoffen, mit diesem Angebot einen Beitrag zum Wiederaufbau in Kosova leisten zu k?nnen. Divi Beineke Redaktion "Wiederaufbau Kosova" --------------------------------------- From shdibrani at paus.ch Sun Nov 28 00:32:19 1999 From: shdibrani at paus.ch (Shefqet Dibrani) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 06:32:19 +0100 Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?B?VXJpbWUgZGhlIHDrcmfremltZQ==?= Message-ID: <001201bf3961$f1373000$813cd1c2@shdibrani> Drejtuesve t? faqe www.Prishtina.com urimet dhe p?rg?zimet e mia. Sikur ta b?nit edhe verzionin shqip faqja do t? jet? edhe m? e k?rkuar. Miqve t? mi kudo n? vendet anglishtofone do t'ua p?rcjell masazhin e k?saj faqe. P?rshendetje Sh.Dibrani / Zvic?r URIME DITA E FLAMURIT Sh?nim: DITA E FLAMURIT simbol i liris? dhe i unitetit t? t? gjith? shqiptar?ve Shkruan: Shefqet DIBRANI Tet?dhjet? e shtat? vjet m? par?, m? 28 N?ntor t? vitit 1912, Kuvendi Komb?tar i Vlor?s shpalli solemnisht se: q? sot "Shqip?ria b?het m? vehte, e lir? dhe e mosvarme". Ky akt u shoq?rua nj?koh?sisht edhe me ngritjen e flamurit Komb?tar n? Vlor? dhe n? qendra tjera t? vendit. Prandaj kjo dit? ?sht? skalitur n? kujtes?n e kombit edhe si DITA E FLAMURIT, simbol i liris?, i sovranitetit t? Atdheut dhe i unitetit t? t? gjith? shqiptar?ve. Shpallja e Pavar?sis? sh?noi p?rmbysjen e zgjedh?s osmane, kuror?zoi me sukses p?rpjekjet e gjata dhe luft?n e popullit shqiptar p?r nj? Shqip?ri t? lir? e t? pavarur, hapi nj? etap? t? re n? historin? e Shqip?ris?, etap?n e shtetit t? pavarur dhe luft?s s? popullit shqiptar p?r mbrojtjen e liris?, t? t?r?sis? tok?sore t? vendit dhe p?r vendosjen e nj? rendi t? ri demokratik. Kjo ngjarje u prit, n? at? koh?, me g?zim t? madh nga i gjith? populli shqiptar dhe pati jehon? t? gj?r? nd?rkomb?tare. P?r pavar?sin? e vendit kishin luftuar breza t? t?r? shqiptar?sh q? nga koha e Sk?nderbeut n? shekullin e 15-t? e deri te Kuvendet e kryengrit?sve n? shekujt 16-17-t?, q? nga kryengritjet e periudh?s s? Tanzimatit e deri n? luft?rat e gj?ra popullore t? viteve 1909 ? 1912. Nj? faqe e ndritur n? historin? ton? komb?tare t? luft?s p?r liri e pavar?si p?rb?n? Lidhja Shqiptare e Prizrenit, q? u mbajt n? Prizren m? 1878, e para organizat? politike mbar?shqiptare e ngritur n? Kosov?, ku p?rfshinte gjith? vendin. Lidhja Shqiptare e Prizrenit b?ri p?rpjekje t? gjithanshme politike, diplomatike dhe t? luft?s s? armatosur p?r njohjen e kombit shqiptar si nj? e t? pandar?, p?r ruajtjen e paprekshm?ris? e t? t?rsis? s? trojeve shqiptare dhe p?r bashkimin e tokave t? Shqip?ris? n? nj? shtet t? vetin komb?tar. Me ndjenj?n e mir?njohjes s? thell? ne kujtojm? sot luft?rat vigane t? heronj?ve popullor, t?r? at? plejad? t? shk?lqyer t? Rilind?sve t? m?dhenj?, t? Sami, Naim dhe Abdyl Frash?ri, t? Ismail Qemalit e Hasan Prishtin?s, t? Luigj Gurakuqit e Bajram Currit, t? Isa Boletinit e Themistokli G?rmenjit, t? ?er?iz Topullit e Ded? Gjo Lulit, t? shum? e shum? mendimtar?ve, politikan?ve e luftetar?ve t? tjer? t? shquar q? shkrin? gjith?ka p?r t? mir?n e popullit e t? atdheut. Rruga e tyre nuk ishte e leht?, nuk ishte rruga e dredhive dhe p?ruljes, e n?nshtrimit dhe e frik?s para m? t? fortit, por rruga e p?rleshjeve dhe e q?ndres?s. L?vizja shqiptare q? krijoi shtetin e pavarur shqiptar m? 28 N?ntor 1912, ishte pjell? e pjes?s s? asaj l?vizjeje t? madhe evropiane q? p?rb?nte nj? faktor zot?rues t? jet?s politike, shoq?rore e kulturore t? shekullit 20, t? luft?s p?r afirmimin e kombeve dhe t? bashkimit t? tyre n? shtete komb?tare t? nj?suara, n? luft? kund?r monarkive e federatave shum?komb?she, kund?r politik?s komuniste e cila q? at?her? synonte p?r t? gllab?ruar e n?nshtruar nj? pjes? t? bot?s dhe p?r t? mjeruar popuj e shtete gjat? gjith? k?tij shekulli. Mir?po m? 1912, kur perandoria osmane po binte, ushtrit? e shteteve ballkanike, kishin shkelur trojet e atdheut ton? dhe po p?rpiqeshin ta b?nin t? plot? e fakt t? kryer pushtimin e Kosov?s, Plav?s, Gucis? e Ulqinit, t? Preshev?s Bujanocit e Medvegj?s, t? Shkupit e Tetov?s, Kumanov?s, Gastivarit e Dibr?s nga se n? luft?rat e m? hershme kishin pushtuar e gati t?rsisht asimiluar Sanxhakun e Nishit e t? Pazarit t? Ri dhe ?am?rin? n? p?rgjith?si. Kjo b?hej n?n? pretekstin se ata luftonin kund?r Perandoris? osmane, pjes? t? s? cil?s e quanin Shqip?rin? dhe trevat q? p?rmend?m m? lart?, duke e kthyer k?t? vend n? pla?k? lufte grabit?are. Prandaj, ashtu si edhe n? vitet e Lidhjes Shqiptare t? Prizrenit, u vun? menj?her? n? l?vizje patriot?t p?r t? organizuar forcat, p?r t? p?rballuar situat?n, p?r t?i dalur zot tok?s amtare, p?r t? siguruar nj?sin? etnike dhe pavar?sin? e kombit. N? k?to kushte, Kuvendi Komb?tar i mbledhur n? Vlor?, (edhe pse pa pranin? e asnj? p?rfaqsuesi kosovar?!), ishte p?rfaqsuesi i vet?m e m? i lart? i kombit shqiptar, q? udh?heqej nga diplomati i shquar i asaj kohe Ismail Qemali, ku kishte arritur t?i bashkonte p?rfaqsuesit e gati t? gjitha krahinave t? vendit. E lindur n? k?to kushte shum? t? v?shtira, sidomos t? jashtme Qeveria Komb?tare e Vlor?s, nuk mundi t? realizonte t?r?sin? e detyrave t? m?dha dhe t? nd?rlikuara q? asaj ia ngarkonte situata: t? realizonte ?lirimin e popullit shqiptar nj?koh?sisht me bashkimin e tij mbrenda nj? shteti etnik komb?tar e t? nj?suar, t? siguronte t?r?sin? e trojeve t? atdheut dhe sovranitetin e tij t? plot? shtet?ror, sepse qysh n? lindjen e saj, mbi Shqip?rin? e re ra shpata e orthodoksizmit sllavo-grek q? arriti t? ndaj e coptoj k?t? komb me kufinjt e imponuar me dhun? dhe u p?rpoq?n ta mbysin me tutel?n e pushk?s, me intriga e me komplotet diplomatike. Evropa e k?tyre viteve e sakrifikoi popullin shqiptar p?r t? siguruar sferat e interesave t? veta e t? pjellave t? tyre si? ishin Mbret?ria Serbo-Kroato-Sllovene dhe n? Jug t? vendit Greqia, duke siguruar pozita m? t? mira n? luft?rat e ardhshme bot?rore, me t? cilat ndanin e rindanin zonat e interesit t? tyre. K?shtu, fitor?n e 28 N?ntorit 1912 e shoq?roi edhe nj? tragjedi e madhe: tokat shqiptare q? e ksihin shpallur veten t? pavarur n? Kuvendin e Vlor?s, p?suan fatin e hidhur t? cop?tohen midis pjes?marr?sve t? aleanc?s ballkanike, shteteve fqinj?: Serbis?, Greqis?, Maqedonis? dhe Malit t? Zi. Tashm? gjysma e trojeve shqiptare u shk?put?n nga trupi i atdheut. Midis tyre pik?risht Kosova, ?am?ria, Trevat shqiptare t? Pollogut e p?rgjat Vardarit, Presheva, Bujanoci e Medvegja, Malsia e Mbishkodr?s e deri n? Ulqin, Sanxhaku i Nishit dhe ai i Pazarit t? Ri, krahina k?to q? kishin qen? vatra t? r?nd?sishme t? kryengritjeve t? m?dha antiosmane, antiserbe dhe antigreke. Ky ishte nj? krim dhe nj? atentat barbar kund?r liris?, pavar?sis?, sovranitetit dhe integritetit teritorial t? nj? populli t? vog?l, i cili, nga err?sira mesjetare po dilte n? drit?n e p?rparimit e progresit q? nuk ia d?shironin shtetet fqinje dhe me bekimin e Evrop?s u b? ricoptimi i tij. Me gjith? p?rpjekjet heroike t? popullit shqiptar atdheu yn? u coptua mizorisht dhe m? shum? se gjysma e kombit ra n? nj? rob?ri t? re. Trajtimi q? ju b? Shqip?ris? nga vendet fqinje e nga Fuqit? e M?dha ishte n? kundershtim flagrant me ligjet e normat nd?rkomb?tare. Shqip?ria tani m? ishte rrethuar pothuajse gjat? gjith? kufinjve t? saj me popullsi shqiptare. Kosovar?t dhe shqiptar?t tjer? jasht? kufinjve t? atdheut iu shtruan nj? terrori t? pashembullt q? kishte p?r q?llim shkomb?tarizimin e tyre. Por si bij e bija t? denj? t? k?tyre trojeve, shqiptar?t jasht atdheut, ve?anrisht ata t? Kosov?s u b?n? ball? me sukses p?rpjekjeve t? sunduesve t? eg?r p?r t?i n?nshtruar e asimiluar: me nj? nd?rgjegje t? zhvilluar komb?tare ata ruajt?n me besnik?ri FLAMURIN e tyre t? kuq me shqiponj?n e zez? dykrenore, dhe pa marrur parasysh presionet e tmerrshme, nuk pranuan kurrsesi t? largoheshin t?r?sisht nga vatrat e tyre. N?n udh?heqjen e Bajram Currrit, Hasan Prishtin?s, Azem e Shot? Galic?s, Ahmet Delis? e Ilaz Re?akut e t? nipave e t? mbesave t? k?tyre patriot?ve, shqiptar?t n? tokat e rob?ruara vazhduan p?rpjekjet e tyre p?r bashkimin komb?tar, p?r liri dhe demokraci deri n? Luft?n e Dyt? Bot?rore ku p?rseri u b? ricoptimi i k?tyre trvave t? ripushtuara tashm? nga serb?t. Ishte, Komandanti Shaban Polluzha e Rifat Berisha, Gjon Serre?i e dhjetra t? tjer? ?ysh gjat? Luft?s s? Dyt? Bot?rore ia b?n? me dije popullit t? k?tyre trevave p?r rob?rin? e re q? i mbyste. Gjat? gjys?m shekulli t? despotizmit komunist u desht t? flijohen patriot?t Fazli Graj?evci, Shaban Shala e deri tek Jusuf G?rvalla e Enver Hadri p?r t?i mbajtur t? ndezura idealet p?r liri e pavar?si. P?r t?i s?ndertuar k?to ideale n? vitet e ?90-ta u krijue Alternativa Kosovare e cila qiti n? ball? figura t? njohura komb?tarisht si? ishin dr.Ibarhim Rugova dhe akademik?t: Mark Krasniqi, Gazmend Zajmi, Fehmi Agani etj. t? cil?t me dinjitet e soll?n Kosov?n n? nj? realitet t? ri. Por p?r t?u realizuar aspiratat shekullore nuk mjaftonin vet?m krijimi i aleancave me faktorin nd?rkomb?tar i cili do t? vendoste paqen p?rfundimtare n? Kosov?. Duhej b?r? edhe lufta e armatosur e cila do t? p?rshpejtonte procesin e paq?s n? Kosov?. K?t? proces mjaft? t? r?ndsish?m e luajti U?K-ja dhe n? luft?n e saj t? paepur u flijuan Zahir Pajaziti, Adem Jashari, Salih ?ekaj, Agim Ramadani dhe intelektual?t e kombit si? jan? Fehmi Agani, Latif Berisha, Ahmet Krasniqi, Enver Maloku e me dhjetra e mij?ra qytetar: burra, gra e f?mij? t? cil?t ran? d?shmor? p?r kauz?n komb?tare, dhe fal? Amerik?s, NATO-s, dhe Bashk?sis? Evropiane sot do t? prehen t? qet n? altarin e liris?. Historia qe e pam?shirshme ndaj kombit shqiptar t? cilit iu desh t? sakrifikonte aq shum? q? t? g?zonte aq pak nga ato q? g?zonin kombet fqinj?, t? g?zonte nj? shtet etnik sovran dhe t? pavarur. Por si? shifet edhe nga k?to p?rpjekje dhe sakrifica kombit shqiptar i kullojn? ende plag?t gjak?, plag? k?to q? nuk u mbyllen as n? k?t? proces ndryshimesh t? kufijve. Dita e Flamurit do ta gjen Kosov?n m? t? g?zuar se kurr? m? par?, por me dhembje t? p?rhershme p?r p?rgjakjet e reja q? po b?hen n? Preshev?, Bujanoc e Medvegj?. Kosova nuk do ta p?rjeton g?zimin e k?saj dite p?r deri sa nuk mund t? ngritet shlirsh?m Flamuri edhe n? Shkup e Tetov?, n? Plav?, Guci e ?am?ri. Populli yn?, ndon?se i vog?l, ka treguar vitalitet t? lart? gjat? gjith? historis? s? vet shum? t? lasht? n? k?t? pjes? t? Ballkanit dhe duhet t? vazhdon edhe n? t? ardhm?n e af?rt duke mos ulur kok?n kurr? dhe duke mos iu n?nshtruar asimilimit t? pushtuesve t? huaj n? ato treva ku nuk ?sht? arritur liria. P?rkundrazi, ai mund t? b?j? nj? rezistenc? shembullore si me arm? ashtu edhe me gjuh?n e kultur?n e tij, me traditat dhe besimin n? fitoren p?rfundimtare. Dit?n e Shpalljes s? Pavar?sis? dhe t? themelimit t? shtetit komb?tar t? pavarur do ta festojm? i gjith? kombi shqiptar, gjith? v?llez?rit tan? kudo q? ata jetojn?, si nj? ngjarje t? madhe t? historis? son?, p?r ta lart?suar nd?r shekuj FLAMURIN - simbolin e liris? dhe t? unitetit t? t? gjith? shqiptar?ve! -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Nov 29 11:03:34 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:03:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Violence in Pristina (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 08:32:29 -0700 From: Anthony Teran To: support at alb-net.com Subject: Violence in Pristina Good Day, I am writing in response to the horrible crime that occurred in a main street of Pristina. For years, my neighbors and I have supported Kosovo's cry for independence and justice, and continue to do so, but these latest crimes I am now hearing about is really starting to make me think twice. How can people behave so sadistically?? I don't understand what an elderly couple can do to the independence of Kosovo or how they undermine the people's will. I truly understand the animosity that is held towards the Serb people and culture, and I truly feel sorry for the harsh and unfair treatment they pressed upon your people, BUT WHERE DOES IT ALL END?? How do you think NATO and the U.N. feel about trying to protect people who do the same damn thing to the other side. We are not talking about soldiers, or spies, or propaganda people, we are talking about elderly people. If this is the way Kosovar-Albanians are going to act, the same and not a dignified people who just won independence to make life better, Kosovo will begin to lose support of the U.N., NATO, and the rest of the countries that put their reputation on the line to help you. If this is the way newly independent people are going to act, well I guess it would be better for you to fight each other until one conquers the other with no outside help. Maybe all the people with hatred in their hearts will all be killed off, and somewhere down the line humanity and civilization can finally start. Please forward this to the proper people. Anthony S. Teran From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Nov 29 11:09:22 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:09:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Lajme kulturore nga Prishtina Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Nol Shala Shqip: Gazette / Gazeta Kulturserver Kosova - Nr. 8 - N? Institutin Albanologjik t? Prishtin?s u mbajt simpoziumi dy ditor me titull "Lazgush Poradeci dhe vepra e tij". Me k?t? rast ?sht? sh?nuar 100 vjetori i lindjes s? shkrimtarit t? madh shqiptar? n? t? cil?n u tubuan shum? personalitete t? njohur t? kultur?s dhe politik?s n? mesin e t? cil?ve ishte edhe shkrimatari i njohur Ismail Kadare. Drejtori i institutit Dr. Sadri Fetiu n? mes tjerash tha: "Lazgushi me veprimtarin e tij letrare e lidh etap?n e romantizmit me etap?n e jet?s moderne t? let?rsis? shqiptare". - N? kuad?r t? simpoziumit t? lart? p?rmendur n? hall?n e institutit u hap ekspozita individuale e piktorit Anastas Konstandin-Taso e titulluar "Lazgushi dhe Pogradeci". 41 punime kryesisht piktura n? vaj? dhe vizatime linogdhendje pasqyrojn? momente nga jeta, vepra dhe qyteti i lindjes s? poetit. Punimet ndahen n? dy t?r?si krijuese: realizime realiste t? krijuara deri me 1991 dhe realizime t? lira pas k?tij viti. - N? gazet?n e p?rditshme "Rilindja" u shpall konkursi mbarkomb?tar i sallonit "Karikatura 1999". Hapja e sallonit t? karikatur?s do t? b?het me 18 dhjetor 1999 n? galerin e t? rinj?ve pran Pallatit t? Rinis? n? Prishtin?. T? interesuarit, krijuesit si dhe sponzor?t munden t? paraqiten organizator?ve t? sallonit "Karikatura 1999" n? numrin telefonik ++381 38 41 673. - Teatri "Dodona" nga Prishtina prezentoj shfaqjen "Profesor jam talent se jo mahi 4" t? realizuar nga regjisori Faruk Begolli. Shfaqja komiko-tragjike me t? njejtin titull, por tani n? pjes?n e kat?rt, p?rfshin k?saj rradhe ngjarjet e luft?s, pra d?bimit dhe kthimit t? popullsis? shqiptare si dhe problemet e student?ve nga jeta e p?rditshme. Rrolet i luajt?n: Vjollca Kelmendi, Avni Hoti, Vjosa Abazi, Vlora Merovci, Faruk Begolli dhe t? tjer?t. P?r gazet?n e Kulturserver Kosova raporton Beq? Mulliqi nga Prishtina. From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Nov 29 11:13:32 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:13:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] =?iso-8859-1?B?VXJpbWUgZGhlIHDrcmfremltZQ==?= In-Reply-To: <001201bf3961$f1373000$813cd1c2@shdibrani> Message-ID: Tung Shefqet dhe anetare te tjere, ju kisha lute qe te provojme ta mbajme temen e kesaj liste per ndodhite ne dhe rreth Prishtines, pasi qe eksiztojne listat tjera qe kane te bejne me tema te pergjithshme shqiptare, siq eshte Albanian List Ju faleminderit per mirekuptim, Etriti. On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Shefqet Dibrani wrote: > Drejtuesve t? faqe www.Prishtina.com urimet dhe p?rg?zimet e mia. Sikur ta b?nit edhe verzionin shqip faqja do t? jet? edhe m? e k?rkuar. Miqve t? mi kudo n? vendet anglishtofone do t'ua p?rcjell masazhin e k?saj faqe. > > P?rshendetje Sh.Dibrani / Zvic?r > > URIME DITA E FLAMURIT > > Sh?nim: > > DITA E FLAMURIT > > simbol i liris? dhe i unitetit t? t? gjith? shqiptar?ve > > > Shkruan: Shefqet DIBRANI > > Tet?dhjet? e shtat? vjet m? par?, m? 28 N?ntor t? vitit 1912, Kuvendi Komb?tar i Vlor?s shpalli solemnisht se: q? sot "Shqip?ria b?het m? vehte, e lir? dhe e mosvarme". Ky akt u shoq?rua nj?koh?sisht edhe me ngritjen e flamurit Komb?tar n? Vlor? dhe n? qendra tjera t? vendit. Prandaj kjo dit? ?sht? skalitur n? kujtes?n e kombit edhe si DITA E FLAMURIT, simbol i liris?, i sovranitetit t? Atdheut dhe i unitetit t? t? gjith? shqiptar?ve. > [...] From ramis39 at hotmail.com Mon Nov 29 14:21:45 1999 From: ramis39 at hotmail.com (Ramis Ahmetaj) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:21:45 PST Subject: [Prishtina-l] (no subject) Message-ID: <19991129192145.17725.qmail@hotmail.com> Mr. Teran, Please accept my personal appreciation for the support you have given the just cause of the Albanian people. I also like to express my disbelief toward your opinion with regard to the current difficulties and occurrences in post-war Kosova. And I must admit,this opinion has been heard for quite sometime, from a number of people. I use the word disbelief because, from my perspective, I can not comprehend the surprise, apparent in you and others, to acts of violence purported against the population of Kosova. Mr. Teran, there have been around 200 murders in the country, undeniable, however, more than half of the victims are of Albanian nationality, the rest members of minority groups. Can we say for sure that of the about 100 minority victims, all of them died as a result of hatred and none as a result of random acts of violence? Now that would be an exagerated generalization. The surprise that you, and others, express is exagerated as well. True, some were victims of hate, temporary euphoria, revenge, or whatever word you would like to describe the feeling as, but where is this surprise coming from, is puzzling to me. This is so because we were all bombarded with the news of what was occurring in Kosova, and the killing, rape, and deporation of Albanians by the Serbs. Do you Mr. Teran really believe that it is so easy to forgive the murder of your loved one? Somehow I believe you are questioning that right now. Mr. Teran, I crave for a Kosova that you apparently expected. The reality of the world, not only the Balkans, is different. Sometimes people must live seperately, in order that someday they live together. A period of seperation is welcomed sometimes. The seperation of the Albanians and Serbs was long overdue. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From etrit at alb-net.com Mon Nov 29 18:10:53 1999 From: etrit at alb-net.com (Etrit Bardhi) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:10:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Salma Hayek Message-ID: Artistja Meksikane Salma Hayek paska qene per vizite ne kampin e ushtareve Amerikan 'Bondsteel.' A e din ndokush a e vizitoi edhe Prishtinen? Ja fotoja nga vizita: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/19991127/en/mdf27381.html From ssander at ans.net Mon Nov 29 18:12:41 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:12:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Salma Hayek In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Etro, - Sander On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Artistja Meksikane Salma Hayek paska qene per vizite ne kampin e ushtareve > Amerikan 'Bondsteel.' A e din ndokush a e vizitoi edhe Prishtinen? > > Ja fotoja nga vizita: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/19991127/en/mdf27381.html > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l > From ssander at ans.net Mon Nov 29 18:12:54 1999 From: ssander at ans.net (Sander Sinishtaj) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:12:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Prishtina-l] Salma Hayek In-Reply-To: Message-ID: me falni per gabim shtypi.. - Sander On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Etrit Bardhi wrote: > --- Prishtina-L Discussion Forum --- > Archives: www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-l > > Artistja Meksikane Salma Hayek paska qene per vizite ne kampin e ushtareve > Amerikan 'Bondsteel.' A e din ndokush a e vizitoi edhe Prishtinen? > > Ja fotoja nga vizita: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/19991127/en/mdf27381.html > > > > _____________________________________________________ > Prishtina-L discussion forum: Prishtina-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/prishtina-l >