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[Prishtina-E] Albanian American Civic League

zabeli at gmx.de zabeli at gmx.de
Sun Mar 11 16:29:12 EST 2001


how comes you speak albanian ?! I thought your best was "noone"...
> 
> film  is all yours, ju lutem.. Qielli eshte i paster.
> Suksese!
> --- zabeli at gmx.de wrote:
> >              --- Prishtina-E Discussion Forum ---
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> > 
> > nice story with your grand dad! only tom hanks and
> > meg ryan are missing and
> > it could be a new "internet-film", though an
> > "internet-thriller".
> > 
> > springhetti wrote:
> > > as far as for the
> > > existance of bars,held by native albanians In
> > Pristina
> > > where slave prostitution is enforced and the only
> > girl
> > > you would not find is an albanian one- it is an
> > > unfortunate fact- another part of the grotesque
> > > situation in the region.It does not mean though
> > this
> > > should be a "portret of an "albanian""
> > 
> > well the reason, that you picked up this protitution
> > trading example(and
> > that suspicious raping story) is clear enough, what
> > kind of portraits do
> > albanians in your head have. you're picking a
> > "business" condemned by albanians
> > themselves, for than saying they're not like that.
> > (according to you prishtina is
> > huge prostitute-markt, where all bars are dealing
> > with womens. that's not
> > true: the trading is taking place above all in
> > macedonia)
> > 
> > springhetti:
> > > Also , I  have a weird feeling- those who really
> > > suffered in kosovo are not part of this
> > conversation. 
> > > Forgive me if i am wrong.
> > 
> > well mister, I have also a weird feeling, that those
> > who condemned suffering
> > in kosova wouldn't write such an evil minded text as
> > your's is (one can read
> > even between the lines nothing else than hate and
> > contemption.)
> > 
> > please save us from your analysis about kosova! I
> > don't think somebody is
> > keen(!) on those kind of analysis'.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Hallo,, Everyone 
> > > I would like to appologise here to everybody for
> > the
> > > confusion and possible tackling with peoples
> > suffer
> > > and feelings that had  emerged from my email
> > lately to
> > > Pristina .net.com.
> > > The explanation is as follows:
> > > My grandfather, who is at respactable age has been
> > > using my email address (with my original
> > permission).
> > > Since the last few emails he has sent around I
> > have
> > > changed my password, and since he does not know
> > much
> > > about internet , except how to get on and use my
> > email
> > > address, he will not bother anyone anymore. Again,
> > > please accept my appologies on behalf of my
> > > grandfather, who has been troubled off and on by
> > > dimensia.
> > > Out of respect for my grandfather, I need to make
> > > knowledgable that his native language and Engish
> > as
> > > well are very good on a regular basis, which may
> > not
> > > be particularly obvious in his delirious writings.
> > He
> > > fought War I and was tortured during his capture
> > in
> > > World WAr II, spent years in the socialist camps,
> > > miraculously saved by a pig(he used the skin of
> > the
> > > animal to escape)- later escaped through
> > Yugoslavia in
> > > a very fantastic journey to reach Austria. He has
> > the
> > > point that hatred will not help anybody.His point
> > > contains the view  that things like money and
> > power
> > > can ruin  even the bravest people at the end. He's
> > > seen evil from many sides, and he once told me
> > that
> > > men have to live in order to fight men's malice.
> > Not
> > > to make a point ,but  only as a factual event I
> > dare
> > > to mention here(not making it a point)that his
> > > grandaughter was raped by an albanian, but he also
> > had
> > > a best friend, who was an albanian. as far as for
> > the
> > > existance of bars,held by native albanians In
> > Pristina
> > > where slave prostitution is enforced and the only
> > girl
> > > you would not find is an albanian one- it is an
> > > unfortunate fact- another part of the grotesque
> > > situation in the region.It does not mean though
> > this
> > > should be a "portret of an "albanian"". Same with
> > > serbs.  One of the clubs is called the
> > International
> > > Club, regularly visited by men all ages, including
> > the
> > > troops stationed in the region.
> > >  
> > > As far as for me and what my belief is - a man
> > will
> > > rape and kill- no matter albanian or serb. It
> > depends
> > > on the individual's growth and consciusness. If  I
> > > could  relocate all men to a separate island and
> > let
> > > them have wars between each other and leave the
> > women
> > > in peace, I probably would do it. Women are the
> > ones
> > > who carry it all. I wish the best to Kosovan women
> > and
> > > not only to them, but to all who want to live in a
> > > free, but non discriminating society.  Most of all
> > I
> > > wish that many things never happened, but since
> > they
> > > did there is no other way but to go on.Though I
> > myself
> > > carry personal disappointment from my own
> > peoplethe
> > > Balkans- I thinkj the spirit to fight is gone,
> > > Everybody wants a warm spot, but is that
> > enough?Please
> > > respect my grandfather's point of view,because it
> > was
> > > only a response to an innacurately put down
> > statement,
> > > which inspires only further aggression and
> > ethnical
> > > hatred.It is this fashion now in USA about
> > Hollocaust,
> > > like it was never known before what happened in
> > the
> > > first half of the century.Or the second one. 
> > People
> > > have to help each other, especially from within.  
> > > Ofcourse nothing justifies anything. Noone will be
> > > able to wipe off the tears, that come from a
> > bleeding
> > > heart of a mother, who lives after her child was
> > > killed by people- animals , NOONE, least of all  a
> > > soldier-savior, who has sex on his mind. 
> > > Noone will bring the victims back.
> > > Noone will prevent what was meant to happen.
> > People
> > > have to stand together- from within- I do not know
> > why
> > > they cant. You tell me why. This is what my
> > > grandfather believed in- and according to him-
> > people
> > > on the balkans were never willing to become One,
> > > because of their high ego. I share his beliefs,
> > but
> > > again, accept deepest apologies that his
> > statements
> > > have caused due to his dimensia,which  often
> > lately
> > > makes him into an angry  child.
> > > Also , I  have a weird feeling- those who really
> > > suffered in kosovo are not part of this
> > conversation. 
> > > Forgive me if i am wrong.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- zabeli at gmx.de wrote:
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> > > > www.alb-net.com/pipermail/prishtina-e
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > So, you think Marx and Engels were Russian
> > slavs?
> > > > 
> > > > no, i don't! the the idea of marx's engels'
> > > > communism has never been
> > > > realised; that means that the art of the
> > communism
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
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