[Prishtina-E] Albanian American Civic League

[A. Springhetti]

film  is all yours, ju lutem.. Qielli eshte i paster.
Suksese!
--- zabeli at gmx.de wrote:
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> nice story with your grand dad! only tom hanks and
> meg ryan are missing and
> it could be a new "internet-film", though an
> "internet-thriller".
> 
> springhetti wrote:
> > as far as for the
> > existance of bars,held by native albanians In
> Pristina
> > where slave prostitution is enforced and the only
> girl
> > you would not find is an albanian one- it is an
> > unfortunate fact- another part of the grotesque
> > situation in the region.It does not mean though
> this
> > should be a "portret of an "albanian""
> 
> well the reason, that you picked up this protitution
> trading example(and
> that suspicious raping story) is clear enough, what
> kind of portraits do
> albanians in your head have. you're picking a
> "business" condemned by albanians
> themselves, for than saying they're not like that.
> (according to you prishtina is
> huge prostitute-markt, where all bars are dealing
> with womens. that's not
> true: the trading is taking place above all in
> macedonia)
> 
> springhetti:
> > Also , I  have a weird feeling- those who really
> > suffered in kosovo are not part of this
> conversation. 
> > Forgive me if i am wrong.
> 
> well mister, I have also a weird feeling, that those
> who condemned suffering
> in kosova wouldn't write such an evil minded text as
> your's is (one can read
> even between the lines nothing else than hate and
> contemption.)
> 
> please save us from your analysis about kosova! I
> don't think somebody is
> keen(!) on those kind of analysis'.
> 
> 
> 
> > Hallo,, Everyone 
> > I would like to appologise here to everybody for
> the
> > confusion and possible tackling with peoples
> suffer
> > and feelings that had  emerged from my email
> lately to
> > Pristina .net.com.
> > The explanation is as follows:
> > My grandfather, who is at respactable age has been
> > using my email address (with my original
> permission).
> > Since the last few emails he has sent around I
> have
> > changed my password, and since he does not know
> much
> > about internet , except how to get on and use my
> email
> > address, he will not bother anyone anymore. Again,
> > please accept my appologies on behalf of my
> > grandfather, who has been troubled off and on by
> > dimensia.
> > Out of respect for my grandfather, I need to make
> > knowledgable that his native language and Engish
> as
> > well are very good on a regular basis, which may
> not
> > be particularly obvious in his delirious writings.
> He
> > fought War I and was tortured during his capture
> in
> > World WAr II, spent years in the socialist camps,
> > miraculously saved by a pig(he used the skin of
> the
> > animal to escape)- later escaped through
> Yugoslavia in
> > a very fantastic journey to reach Austria. He has
> the
> > point that hatred will not help anybody.His point
> > contains the view  that things like money and
> power
> > can ruin  even the bravest people at the end. He's
> > seen evil from many sides, and he once told me
> that
> > men have to live in order to fight men's malice.
> Not
> > to make a point ,but  only as a factual event I
> dare
> > to mention here(not making it a point)that his
> > grandaughter was raped by an albanian, but he also
> had
> > a best friend, who was an albanian. as far as for
> the
> > existance of bars,held by native albanians In
> Pristina
> > where slave prostitution is enforced and the only
> girl
> > you would not find is an albanian one- it is an
> > unfortunate fact- another part of the grotesque
> > situation in the region.It does not mean though
> this
> > should be a "portret of an "albanian"". Same with
> > serbs.  One of the clubs is called the
> International
> > Club, regularly visited by men all ages, including
> the
> > troops stationed in the region.
> >  
> > As far as for me and what my belief is - a man
> will
> > rape and kill- no matter albanian or serb. It
> depends
> > on the individual's growth and consciusness. If  I
> > could  relocate all men to a separate island and
> let
> > them have wars between each other and leave the
> women
> > in peace, I probably would do it. Women are the
> ones
> > who carry it all. I wish the best to Kosovan women
> and
> > not only to them, but to all who want to live in a
> > free, but non discriminating society.  Most of all
> I
> > wish that many things never happened, but since
> they
> > did there is no other way but to go on.Though I
> myself
> > carry personal disappointment from my own
> peoplethe
> > Balkans- I thinkj the spirit to fight is gone,
> > Everybody wants a warm spot, but is that
> enough?Please
> > respect my grandfather's point of view,because it
> was
> > only a response to an innacurately put down
> statement,
> > which inspires only further aggression and
> ethnical
> > hatred.It is this fashion now in USA about
> Hollocaust,
> > like it was never known before what happened in
> the
> > first half of the century.Or the second one. 
> People
> > have to help each other, especially from within.  
> > Ofcourse nothing justifies anything. Noone will be
> > able to wipe off the tears, that come from a
> bleeding
> > heart of a mother, who lives after her child was
> > killed by people- animals , NOONE, least of all  a
> > soldier-savior, who has sex on his mind. 
> > Noone will bring the victims back.
> > Noone will prevent what was meant to happen.
> People
> > have to stand together- from within- I do not know
> why
> > they cant. You tell me why. This is what my
> > grandfather believed in- and according to him-
> people
> > on the balkans were never willing to become One,
> > because of their high ego. I share his beliefs,
> but
> > again, accept deepest apologies that his
> statements
> > have caused due to his dimensia,which  often
> lately
> > makes him into an angry  child.
> > Also , I  have a weird feeling- those who really
> > suffered in kosovo are not part of this
> conversation. 
> > Forgive me if i am wrong.
> > 
> > 
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> > > 
> > > > So, you think Marx and Engels were Russian
> slavs?
> > > 
> > > no, i don't! the the idea of marx's engels'
> > > communism has never been
> > > realised; that means that the art of the
> communism
> 
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