[Prishtina-E] Re: [Alb-MuslimUSA] Re: A colonial mindset!

[marta gazideda]

Si cfare problemi e kishnje klasifikuar problemin e Shqiptareve, Kosoves dhe 
Shqiperise qe nga 1800-tat e deri tani? Cilat jane rrenjet e konfliktit dhe 
cilat eshte pozita e Shqiptareve ne krahasim me serbet duke pasur parasyshe 
Perandorine Otomane?

(>Gjithashtu ata qe duan ta trajtojne si problem nacional e te
>motivuar ekonomikisht harojne qe konflikti ka rrenje te thella, qe 
>realiteti osman ne ballkan i vuri shqiptaret e serbet qe pozita te 
>ndryshme)

Kush na ndihmoi ne dhe UCK-se gjate luftes? Ne cka e bazoi teorine e vete 
Huntington?

(Ata harojne qe ne konfliktet ballkanike te 10 viteve te
>fundit perendimoret mbeshteten kroatet, ruset serbet e popullsite muslimane 
>Bosnjen dhe kjo eshte skema qe nderton Samuel Hungtigtoni ku paralajmeron 
>fillimin e nje konflikti ne Kosove te ndertuar sipas te njetes skeme.)

Pse i sulmuan xhamite trupat serbe perpos per te propaguar "fundamentalistet 
muslimane qe duan ta shkaterrojne Evropen"? Pse te na therrasin "turq" 
perpos te propagojne dhe ta bindin boten se "s'ka Shqiptare ne Kosove, kjo 
popullate ka prejardhje prej Perandorise Osmane dhe si e tille duhet te 
shperngulet ne Turqi, ne shtetin te vet"?

(Jo me kot xhamite ishin shenjester e trupave serbe(
>mbi 200 te shkaterruara).Ish-ushtare te UCK-se kane treguar se si ushtaret 
>serbe i therrisnin ata: o turq.Ata qe nuk i shohin keto realitete nuk mund 
>te kene nje pamje te qarte te problemeve qe ka bota shqiptare.)

Pyetjet e mia jane retorike; megjithate pajtohemi ne nji pike: perderisa nuk 
e shofim dhe pranojme realitetin, dobesite dhe aftesite tona, do te kemi 
probleme.


Marta K. Gazideda


>From: "Besnik Sinani" <besi1420 at hotmail.com>
>To: marta_gazideda at hotmail.com, kosova at lycos.com, ngapeja at rocketmail.com
>CC: prishtina-e at alb-net.com, alb-muslimusa at egroups.com, 
>tetova-l at alb-net.com, cair1 at ix.netcom.com, cair at cair-net.org, 
>newyork at cair-net.org
>Subject: Re: [Alb-MuslimUSA] Re: A colonial mindset!
>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 22:04:20 -0500
>
>
>Duke qene se ky eshte nje debat i shqiptareve mbi hallet e shqiptareve 
>vendosa te shkruaj ne shqip pasi me duket me vlefshme per tu futur ne 
>atmosferen e duhur.
>
>Ne ka gje nga e cila duhet hequr dore eshte  konceptimi populist ku u 
>tregohet te tjereve se si duhet ta identifikojne veten. Nese njerezit vene 
>perparesi besimit fetar apo nacionalitetit ky eshte me shume se nderrim 
>bluse, ky eshte qendrim qe nje njeri e ka mare si rjedhim i bindjeve te 
>tij, te kaluares se tij, prejardhjes se tij etj.
>
>Gjithsesi besoj se fakti se disa identifikojne veten separi si muslimane 
>nuk i ben ata shqiptare me te keqinj se ata te tjeret, qe madje mund te te 
>lodhin kordat zanore te fytit me shume se kushdo per atdheun.Me shumti te 
>tillet kane demostruar te jene tradhtaret.
>
>Por ka nje hapsire, ku mbrojtja e interesave shqiptare i bashkon njerez qe 
>kane qendrime te ndryshme ne maredhenien e tyre me Zotin :muslimane apo 
>kristiane qe jane te tille vetem sociologjikisht, muslimane ,te krishtere ( 
>qe besojne dhe praktikojne fene e tyre), apo ateiste(mohues). Ata bashkohen 
>kur eshte interes i perbashket mbrojtja e vendit te tyre dhe kjo nuk sjell 
>si kusht leshimit vend te nacionalizmit mbi besimin ne Zot.
>
>Nese lufta ne Kosove ishte mirfilli fetare apo e udhehequr per interesa 
>ekonomike te Serbise, mua te dyja pergjigjet me duken pjeserisht te verteta 
>e pjeserisht abuzive. Ata qe ngulin kembe ne te qenit teresisht motivacion 
>fetar nuk kapin tere skemen e realiteteve ballkanike, ndryshimet 
>sociologjike te popullsive te Ballkanit.
>Gjithashtu ata qe duan ta trajtojne si problem nacional e te motivuar 
>ekonomikisht harojne qe konflikti ka rrenje te thella, qe realiteti osman 
>ne ballkan i vuri shqiptaret e serbet qe pozita te ndryshme .Ata harojne qe 
>ne konfliktet ballkanike te 10 viteve te fundit perendimoret mbeshteten 
>kroatet, ruset serbet e popullsite muslimane Bosnjen dhe kjo eshte skema qe 
>nderton Samuel Hungtigtoni ku paralajmeron fillimin e nje konflikti ne 
>Kosove te ndertuar sipas te njetes skeme. Jo me kot xhamite ishin 
>shenjester e trupave serbe( mbi 200 te shkaterruara).Ish-ushtare te UCK-se 
>kane treguar se si ushtaret serbe i therrisnin ata: o turq.Ata qe nuk i 
>shohin keto realitete nuk mund te kene nje pamje te qarte te problemeve qe 
>ka bota shqiptare.
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>It seems that I have not made myself clear. The crux of the matter is that 
>>I
>>consider myself Albanian. That is first and foremost in my mind.
>>If I am asked what I am, my response will be "I am Albanian". I would 
>>never
>>dream of answering " a Catholic/Muslim".
>>
>>Religion is a separate issue from the national identity i.e. sipas 
>>perkatjes
>>kombetare jemi shqiptare POR qe percjellim religjione te ndryshme.
>>
>>If Mr. Blumi (in this instance) has made a call to "Albanians" to combat 
>>an
>>anomaly that is damaging to our national interest than he should do that,
>>without referring to ones' religion.
>>
>>After all, Mr. Pula & Mr. Ahmetaj, on what do you base your assumption 
>>that
>>I am a Catholic? "Marta" is a Jewish name; in addition there is an old
>>Albanian song (sung in Albania only) about an Albanian female warrior 
>>named
>>Marta. The title of the song is "Kuvendon Marta me Gra".
>>
>>As for "Olsi" - you are misguided and deeply offending (others may feel
>>different) by claiming that the war in Kosove was a religious one! It was 
>>a
>>war for acquisition of land (Kosova) and its riches, creation of a Greater
>>Serbia and the annihilation of Albanians regardless of their religion!
>>
>>If there are Albanians who feel the war of Kosove was a religious one 
>>please
>>do let me know.
>>
>>The sooner we agree that the good of the nation is more important that our
>>religious beliefs the sooner we can have an independent Kosove. A Republic
>>no less.
>>
>>That is why we must decide soon: "Are we Muslims, Catholics, etc. or are 
>>we
>>Albanians?".
>>
>>If we reach the conclusion that we are Albanians (and that is all that
>>matters) everything will be easier because we will be working towards one
>>aim - our Kosove.
>>We will not need to rely on foreigners since we do have the resources to
>>build ourselves up into a great country and a great nation. It all depends
>>from our attitude.
>>
>>
>>Yours sincerely
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Marta K. Gazideda
>>
>>
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>>O son of Adam, I fell ill and you visited Me not. He will say: O Lord, and 
>>how should I visit You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: 
>>Did you not know that My servant So-and-so had fallen ill and you visited 
>>him not? Did you not know that had you visited him you would have found Me 
>>with him? O son of Adam, I asked you for food and you fed Me not. He will 
>>say: O Lord, and how should I feed You when You are the Lord of the 
>>worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so asked you 
>>for food and you fed him not? Did you not know that had you fed him you 
>>would surely have found that (the reward for doing so) with Me? O son of 
>>Adam, I asked you to give Me to drink and you gave Me not to drink. He 
>>will say: O Lord, how should I give You to drink whin You are the Lord of 
>>the worlds? He will say: My servant So-and-so asked you to give him to 
>>drink and you gave him not to drink. Had you given him to drink you would 
>>have surely found that with Me.
>>
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