From eb246 at columbia.edu Thu Oct 6 20:49:20 2005 From: eb246 at columbia.edu (Erkanda Bujari) Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 20:49:20 -0400 Subject: [NYC-L] [Fwd: Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Brookings Institution Turkey Research Award]] Message-ID: <4345C610.7070006@columbia.edu> Anyone interested to participate? To Whom It May Concern: I'm writing from the Brookings Institution's Center on the U.S. and Europe. We are holding an essay competition on Turkey and its relationship with its neighbors, and were hoping that you might be able to pass along and/or post the attached flyer. First prize is $20,000, second $10,000, and third $5,000. More details on the competition are below. Thank you very much for your help. Sincerely, Amanda Cause ----------------------------------------------------------- Amanda Cause Assistant Director Center on the U.S. and Europe The Brookings Institution 1775 Massachusetts Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20036 Phone: (202) 797-6227 Fax: (202) 797-6003 Sakip Sabanci International Research Award Sabanci University, in cooperation with the Brookings Institution, is delighted to announce the launch of the Sakip Sabanci International Research Award. Sponsored by the late Mr. Sakip Sabanci, prominent Turkish philanthropist and business leader, this annual research award aims to encourage and promote fresh thinking, new ideas, and original research relevant to Turkish studies, conducted in any field of the humanities and social sciences. The topic for the 2006 Sakip Sabanci Award is “Turkey’s New Geopolitical Environment: Policy Challenges and Opportunities for Engagement.” This year’s competition calls for original, essay-length studies addressing the key issues relating to the changes in Turkey’s neighborhood and how Turkey might respond to these changes. As such, studies focusing on any one or several of the following themes are welcome: Turkey’s potential role in the region, in wider Europe, in transatlantic relations; its relations with the EU, Russia, the Balkans, the Caucasus, its Middle-Eastern neighbors, and Central Asia. The Sakip Sabanci International Research Award is jointly administered by the Brookings Institution and the Trustees of Sabanci University, Istanbul. The 2006 Awards include $20,000 for the first prize, $10,000 for the second, and $5,000 for the third. Prize-winners will be decided by an independent, international jury, whose members will be announced in the fall of 2005. Conditions for the competition are as follows: All entries must be new and original works, previously not published in any form. Essays must be approximately 5,000-6,000 words; they must be submitted in English only by means of e-mail in the form of an attached Word document to the following two addresses simultaneously: sabanciaward at sabanciuniv.edu acause at brookings.edu The deadline for submissions for the 2006 Award is January 31, 2006. ----- End forwarded message ----- From mentor at alb-net.com Sun Oct 16 08:29:19 2005 From: mentor at alb-net.com (Kosova Crisis Center News and Information) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [NYC-L] [Kcc-News] Kosovo destined for independence, but on probation Message-ID: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Kosova Crisis Center (KCC) News: http://www.alb-net.com/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- http://abcnews.go.com/International/print?id=1205769 Kosovo destined for independence, but on probation Reuters, Oct 12, 2005, By Matthew Robinson PRISTINA, Serbia and Montenegro - The majority Albanian province of Kosovo can win independence from Serbia in 2006 but it will be conditioned by an "international supervision" proviso, diplomats and analysts say. While Serbia insists Kosovo can only have autonomy, the West will steer talks due to begin later this year toward a form of "conditional independence," they say. Quite possibly it would be conditioned on accepting a European Union monitoring mission. "Conditional independence is the central consensus in the international community," said a senior European diplomat. "There's an idea what the outcome will be, but & no blueprint." Full sovereignty might be offered when democratic standards were achieved and only as Serbia and the states of the western Balkans join the EU over the course of the next decade. The United Nations took control of Kosovo in 1999 after NATO bombing drove out Serb forces accused of killing 10,000 Albanians in their 1998-99 war with separatist rebels. Six years later, with the 90 percent ethnic Albanian majority clamoring for independence, the major Western powers which intervened in 1999 say U.N.-protectorate status is no longer sustainable. They want a solution in 2006. Serbs see Kosovo as their Jerusalem, the cradle of a thousand years of Orthodox Christianity. No Serbian leader has dared to admit it may soon be lost. But Western governments believe Serbia has already lost Kosovo. The problem is getting Serbs to face up to reality. "Reintegrating Kosovo into Serbia and Montenegro will not win the Albanians' consent. It could only be achieved and sustained by the use of force, which is why it will not happen," says Judy Batt of the Institute for Security Studies in Paris. Faced with 1.9 million hostile Albanians, Serbia could not hope to govern Kosovo again, and cannot afford it, she adds. THE CONUNDRUM Kosovo may have been in legal limbo for six years. But under U.N. guidance, it is already a separate state in all but name. The province has its own institutions of government, police and customs services, monetary system and postal code. The ethnic Albanians, who exceed 90 percent of the population, will not accept a return to Serbian rule in any form. Yet with the talks only weeks off, Belgrade still insists independence is not negotiable. It is offering executive, legislative and judicial autonomy but insists on sovereignty over Kosovo's foreign affairs, defense and borders. Few analysts think the U.N. special envoy to be appointed this month can conjure up an easy answer to what the European Union's top diplomat, Javier Solana, calls "this conundrum." U.N. officials say Kosovo's interim Albanian powers are as yet unable to guarantee the rights and safety of 100,000 Serbs, ghettoized and targeted for attack since 1999. So, diplomats say, independence must be tied to concessions to Serbs, including international oversight, most likely in the form of a years-long, veto-wielding, EU-led mission. "The most obvious analogy would be the Office of the High Representative in Bosnia," said the diplomat, referring to the role created after the war 1992-95 Bosnia war to oversee the reintegration of Serb, Muslims and Croats in one state. British diplomat Paddy Ashdown is fifth in a series of Bosnian satraps who wielded sweeping powers aimed at herding former enemies toward genuine, multiethnic democracy. An international security presence would also remain, with a NATO peace force slimmed down from its present 17,000. Solana suggests the EU take over policing, as it did in Macedonia. THE SUGAR-COATED PILL Such conditionality could make the eventual amputation of Kosovo -- which covers 13 percent of Serbian territory -- a little less painful for Serbs, especially if coupled with a promise that the whole region would eventually be under the same European Union roof. Brussels and Washington hope the prospect of EU and NATO membership over the next decade will be sufficient incentive for Serbia to accept independence, although analysts warn that the political shock to Serbia -- where ultranationalism is still a potent force -- must not be underestimated. "Belgrade knows it's going to lose Kosovo," said one Western diplomat. "But it wants the price as high as possible." Faced with independence, some observers believe Serbia may demand that the province be partitioned at the Ibar River so that its Serb-dominated north remains under Belgrade's wing. But partition, which would be accompanied by forced population movements and possibly by violent attempts to force further land swaps around Kosovo's Albanian-peopled borderlands, is officially a taboo concept for the West. Ultimately it is the U.N. Security Council which will decide Kosovo's status, and veto-holding powers China and Russia may have serious reservations about a precedent-setting grant of independence to a single, breakaway ethnic group. Serbia's acceptance of a divorce, however, would make a veto far less likely, and if there were none, Kosovo would be the first newly independent state since East Timor in 2002. Copyright 2005 Reuters News Service. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Copyright C 2005 ABC News Internet Ventures ______________________________________________________________ If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message to: kcc-news-unsubscribe at alb-net.com , or visit KCC-NEWS's page at: http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/kcc-news From kekabe at gmail.com Fri Oct 21 23:09:04 2005 From: kekabe at gmail.com (Kreshnik Berisha) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened in New York in November 16 Message-ID: The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj and Blerta Zeqiri, will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at the Village East Cinemas at 10PM. The screening is organized as a part of the New York Int. Independent Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes after the film had its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the NYIIFV Festival in September, where it won the Best Cinematography Award. This award constitutes the fourth international film award that the two directors-writers won. The film is a breathtaking story about 3 Kosovar-Albanian students hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of food and information about what's happening on the outside makes the situation unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever to each other, but yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? find a way out. "EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the situation hundreds of thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 NATO-bombing: stranded in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army ethnic-cleansing campaign. For more information on the event and film, please visit: http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= Cinema information: 181 2nd Avenue New York, NY 10003 (212) 529-6998 Theater Express Code: 922 From jeton at hotmail.com Sat Oct 22 14:10:58 2005 From: jeton at hotmail.com (Jeton Ademaj) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:10:58 -0400 Subject: [NYC-L] UN Rally Monday 10am Message-ID: Hello All, please pardon the short notice. VETEVENDOSJE! has opened a chapter in NYC, and this week was spent in a hurry organizing a rally for Kosova's independence. On this Monday morning, Oct. 24th, the UN Security COuncil will be deliberating the fate of Kosova. The USA will be supporting the choice of the people of Kosova (FREEDOM), Serbia's premier Vojislav Kostunica *will be there* demanding that Kosova be re-enslaved, Soren Peter-Jensen will be Kofi's man to the talks, Russia and China will be dragging their feet, and England, France and the EU as a whole will be looking to take the path of least resistance. This is why WE ALL have to be there to SHOW RESISTANCE! It's is critical to know that these talks can be used as an excuse to destroy Kosova's chance at independence, and make us sit in a sand-box and "negotiate" with our former murdering overlord, Serbia. We must tell the world that Kosova is not a prisoner meant to negotiate with the wardens of Serbia, if there are any issues to negotiate they can be negotiated ONLY when Kosova is accorded equal status to Serbia, AS A SEPARATE SOVEREIGN NATION. It's clear that UNMIK can not continue standing on the backs of Kosovars and keeping us down, let's not allow them to shackle us to Serbia all over again! "UN out of KOSOVA! KOSOVA in the UN!!" Monday, October 24th 10am-1pm Dag Hammerskjold Plaza South West corner of 47th Street and 1st avenue. there will be a short performance,processional of "Doctor UN, it's time to get off the patient!" for information, contact myself, Jeton Ademaj, @ 646 452 1428 or jeton at hotmail.com, or Arta Haxhaj @ Artushe75 at aol.com. US VETEVENDOSJE! will be an active voice for Kosova's future, with further events and supportive activities in the planning stages... please forward this far and wide... From afrimajdari at hotmail.com Sat Oct 22 19:54:21 2005 From: afrimajdari at hotmail.com (afrim ajdari) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:54:21 +1000 Subject: [NYC-L] NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hello, is there any possible way to have the movie, EXIT screened in australia?, if so what chanel or procedures do i have to go through to make this possible?. thankyou afrim ajdari >From: nyc-l-request at alb-net.com >Reply-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com >Subject: NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 >Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:00:14 -0400 > >Send NYC-L mailing list submissions to > nyc-l at alb-net.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened in New York > in November 16 (Kreshnik Berisha) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 >From: Kreshnik Berisha >Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened in > New York in November 16 >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com >Message-ID: > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > >The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj and Blerta Zeqiri, >will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at the Village East >Cinemas at 10PM. > >The screening is organized as a part of the New York Int. Independent >Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes after the film had >its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the NYIIFV Festival in >September, where it won the Best Cinematography Award. This award >constitutes the fourth international film award that the two >directors-writers won. > >The film is a breathtaking story about 3 Kosovar-Albanian students >hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of food and >information about what's happening on the outside makes the situation >unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever to each other, but >yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? find a way out. > >"EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the situation hundreds of >thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 NATO-bombing: stranded >in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army ethnic-cleansing >campaign. > >For more information on the event and film, please visit: >http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ > >For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: >http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= > >Cinema information: >181 2nd Avenue >New York, NY 10003 >(212) 529-6998 >Theater Express Code: 922 > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >NYC-L mailing list >NYC-L at alb-net.com >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > >End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 >************************************ From mentor at alb-net.com Sun Oct 23 21:36:56 2005 From: mentor at alb-net.com (Kosova Crisis Center News and Information) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [NYC-L] [Kcc-News] 10/24/05: PROTEST FOR KOSOVA'S RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION AT THE UN Message-ID: --------------------------------------------------------------------- Kosova Crisis Center (KCC) News: http://www.alb-net.com/index.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE October 23, 2005 PROTEST FOR KOSOVA?S RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION AT THE UN On Monday, October 24th, from 10:00 am to noon, Kosova?s independence movement VET?VENDOSJE will be demonstrating in front of the United Nations Headquarters in New York to protest the UN Security Council deliberating the future of Kosova without any Kosovar representation. Instead the UN has chosen to allow the Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica to argue for the return of Serbian misrule in Kosova. We are determined to remind the world that no solution can be reached without Kosova?s direct involvement and consent. VETEVENDOSJE! requires that Kosova be accorded equal status to Serbia before any negotiations can be held, because anything less will be an unsustainable farce, with grave consequences for the Balkans. VET?VENDOSJE (Self-determination) is the movement started by the former student leader, human rights activist and prisoner of war, Albin Kurti. It has grown into a popular grassroots Kosovar movement for independence, and with this rally it inaugurates its New York chapter. For further information please contact Arta Haxhaj at (646) 339-4228 or artushe75 at aol.com Website: http://www.vetevendosje.org -------------- next part -------------- ______________________________________________________________ If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message to: kcc-news-unsubscribe at alb-net.com , or visit KCC-NEWS's page at: http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/kcc-news From kekabe at gmail.com Mon Oct 24 16:40:16 2005 From: kekabe at gmail.com (Kreshnik Berisha) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 22:40:16 +0200 Subject: [NYC-L] NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Afrim, I am happy to have received your e-mail, especially for seeing the Albanian community members are interested in the film. In order to answer your question on bringing EXIT to Australia, I will have to speak to the producing company of the film and get back to you with more information. As far as I can tell you, I reckon that since the film is "fresh from the oven", it might take a few months until it exploits the possibilities of participating in International Festivals first, before being able to be shown in regular Cinemas. I think that for some reason festivals usually come before showings in regular cinemas. For this reason, the screening of the film has until now happened as a part of the New York International Independent Film and Video Festival, during the Los Angeles event, where it had its world premiere and was awarded as a result. Now, as you now, the next event of this festival is in New York. In any case, I will get back to you with further information, as soon as I hear from the producers. Te fala, Keka On 10/23/05, afrim ajdari wrote: > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === > > hello, is there any possible way to have the movie, EXIT screened in > australia?, if so what chanel or procedures do i have to go through to make > this possible?. > thankyou > afrim ajdari > > > >From: nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > >Reply-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Subject: NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 > >Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 01:00:14 -0400 > > > >Send NYC-L mailing list submissions to > > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened in New York > > in November 16 (Kreshnik Berisha) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 > >From: Kreshnik Berisha > >Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened in > > New York in November 16 > >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Message-ID: > > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > > > >The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj and Blerta Zeqiri, > >will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at the Village East > >Cinemas at 10PM. > > > >The screening is organized as a part of the New York Int. Independent > >Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes after the film had > >its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the NYIIFV Festival in > >September, where it won the Best Cinematography Award. This award > >constitutes the fourth international film award that the two > >directors-writers won. > > > >The film is a breathtaking story about 3 Kosovar-Albanian students > >hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of food and > >information about what's happening on the outside makes the situation > >unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever to each other, but > >yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? find a way out. > > > >"EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the situation hundreds of > >thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 NATO-bombing: stranded > >in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army ethnic-cleansing > >campaign. > > > >For more information on the event and film, please visit: > >http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ > > > >For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: > >http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= > > > >Cinema information: > >181 2nd Avenue > >New York, NY 10003 > >(212) 529-6998 > >Theater Express Code: 922 > > > >------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >NYC-L mailing list > >NYC-L at alb-net.com > >http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > >End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 > >************************************ > > > ____________________________________________________ > NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the > Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. > To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com > For more information: http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > From ditaaa at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:44:34 2005 From: ditaaa at yahoo.com (Aferdita Hakaj) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NYC-L] Hello! Message-ID: <20051025004434.81597.qmail@web50707.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Guys! I do not have much time, but I wanted to congradulate you all on the great work you have done today. I think it went very well on short notice....I'm glad I had a chance to meet some new and old faces. I'm looking forward to working with you all in helping Kosova be heard. I just wanted to let u know that I will be interested in getting to know you guys and working with you in the near future. I'll see you all on saturday! Best, Aferdita --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From beharxh at yahoo.com Mon Oct 24 20:53:26 2005 From: beharxh at yahoo.com (Behar Xharra) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NYC-L] Hello! In-Reply-To: <20051025004434.81597.qmail@web50707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051025005326.58418.qmail@web53909.mail.yahoo.com> Tung Aferdita, une jam Behar Xharra prej Gjakoves, duke studiuar ne Indiana. Kisha pas deshire qe te jeme antare i ndonje liste, nese keni rreth kesaj qeshtje. Faleminderit, Behar Xharra Aferdita Hakaj wrote: === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === Hi Guys! I do not have much time, but I wanted to congradulate you all on the great work you have done today. I think it went very well on short notice....I'm glad I had a chance to meet some new and old faces. I'm looking forward to working with you all in helping Kosova be heard. I just wanted to let u know that I will be interested in getting to know you guys and working with you in the near future. I'll see you all on saturday! Best, Aferdita --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From pirrorexhepi at yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 25 00:20:39 2005 From: pirrorexhepi at yahoo.co.uk (Pirro Rexhepi) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:20:39 +0100 (BST) Subject: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of Kosova Message-ID: <20051025042039.45779.qmail@web86809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Just a month ago The Jewish Center for Public Affairs in its Jewish Political Study Review published an article on the 'Annals of Israeli-Albanian Contacts on Establishing Diplomatic Relations' (http://www.jcpa.org/israel-europe/ier-guvrin-f05.htm) by Yosef Govrin. Amongst other issues, the article refers to Albania's friendly and positive response to Israel's request for recognition of its independence in April of 1949. I found the article to be extremely timely and useful in light of the present struggle of Albanians for independence in Kosova. Is important that good political actions of the Albanian government in the past (such as the recognition of Israel) should be utilized in favor of the independence of Kosova. In other words, we should actively look for sponsors for Kosova's independence from those countries that not only we have had good relations with and 'helped' out, but also hold sway in international politics. Is unfortunate however that the Albanian diplomacy was never very skilled in such diplomatic maneuvers! Hope there was a good turn out at the UN demonstration today since I was not able to make it! Peace! --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From pirrorexhepi at yahoo.co.uk Tue Oct 25 00:22:43 2005 From: pirrorexhepi at yahoo.co.uk (Pirro Rexhepi) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 05:22:43 +0100 (BST) Subject: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of Kosova's independence In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051025042243.72107.qmail@web86806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Just a month ago The Jewish Center for Public Affairs in its Jewish Political Study Review published an article on the 'Annals of Israeli-Albanian Contacts on Establishing Diplomatic Relations' (http://www.jcpa.org/israel-europe/ier-guvrin-f05.htm) by Yosef Govrin. Amongst other issues, the article refers to Albania's friendly and positive response to Israel's request for recognition of its independence in April of 1949. I found the article to be extremely timely and useful in light of the present struggle of Albanians for independence in Kosova. Is important that good political actions of the Albanian government in the past (such as the recognition of Israel) should be utilized in favor of the independence of Kosova. In other words, we should actively look for sponsors for Kosova's independence from those countries that not only we have had good relations with and 'helped' out, but also hold sway in international politics. Is unfortunate however that the Albanian diplomacy was never very skilled in such diplomatic maneuvers! Hope there was a good turn out at the UN demonstration today since I was not able to make it! Peace! nyc-l-request at alb-net.com wrote:Send NYC-L mailing list submissions to nyc-l at alb-net.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nyc-l-request at alb-net.com You can reach the person managing the list at nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened in New York in November 16 (Kreshnik Berisha) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 From: Kreshnik Berisha Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened in New York in November 16 To: nyc-l at alb-net.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj and Blerta Zeqiri, will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at the Village East Cinemas at 10PM. The screening is organized as a part of the New York Int. Independent Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes after the film had its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the NYIIFV Festival in September, where it won the Best Cinematography Award. This award constitutes the fourth international film award that the two directors-writers won. The film is a breathtaking story about 3 Kosovar-Albanian students hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of food and information about what's happening on the outside makes the situation unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever to each other, but yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? find a way out. "EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the situation hundreds of thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 NATO-bombing: stranded in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army ethnic-cleansing campaign. For more information on the event and film, please visit: http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= Cinema information: 181 2nd Avenue New York, NY 10003 (212) 529-6998 Theater Express Code: 922 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ NYC-L mailing list NYC-L at alb-net.com http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 ************************************ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From vbelegu at hotmail.com Tue Oct 25 02:24:08 2005 From: vbelegu at hotmail.com (Visar Belegu) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 Subject: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of Kosova In-Reply-To: <20051025042039.45779.qmail@web86809.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian diplomacy. If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the effects he excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his relationship with President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a combination of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped in personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of Albania i.e. Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a couple of others. Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the people have shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of Kosova have shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely on "favors" that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay off me damn communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. Today, we need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, scientists and professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good about our culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but in the meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political sciences or anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get rid of the handicapped communist mentality. Cheers. From vxharra at hotmail.com Tue Oct 25 10:00:48 2005 From: vxharra at hotmail.com (Valon Xharra) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:00:48 +0000 Subject: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of Kosova In-Reply-To: Message-ID: P.S. to P.S. I thought banning people to do what they please was part of the the communist mentality era. >From: "Visar Belegu" >Reply-To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York City,USA)" > >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com >Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of >Kosova >Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: [70.17.197.186] >X-Originating-Email: [vbelegu at hotmail.com] >X-Sender: vbelegu at hotmail.com >Received: from alb-net.com ([216.133.77.15]) by mc5-f21.hotmail.com with >Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:29 -0700 >Received: from alb-net.com (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com >(Postfix) with ESMTP id 644F410C82E8;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:15 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from localhost (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com (Postfix) >with ESMTP id 12A6010C82E6for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2005 >02:24:13 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f30.bay103.hotmail.com [65.54.174.40])by >alb-net.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8301010C82D4for ; >Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:05 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft >SMTPSVC;Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:08 -0700 >Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com with >HTTP;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08 GMT >X-Message-Info: wCrlMA1YA+isppTFp2dJv4DVSfpy5CNOO7B1pOnOnSo= >X-Original-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com >Delivered-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08.0421 >(UTC)FILETIME=[B4C03150:01C5D92C] >X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 >X-BeenThere: nyc-l at alb-net.com >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 >Precedence: list >List-Id: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York City,USA)" > >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com >Return-Path: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === > > >For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian diplomacy. >If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the effects he >excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his relationship >with >President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. > >Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a combination >of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped in >personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of Albania i.e. >Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a couple of >others. > >Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the people have >shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of Kosova have >shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely on "favors" >that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay off me >damn >communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. Today, we >need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, scientists and >professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good about our >culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. > > >P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but in the >meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political sciences or >anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get rid of the >handicapped communist mentality. > >Cheers. > > >____________________________________________________ >NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the >Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. >To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com >For more information: http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > From ericaweitzman at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 10:07:58 2005 From: ericaweitzman at yahoo.com (Erica Weitzman) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of Kosova's independence In-Reply-To: <20051025042243.72107.qmail@web86806.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051025140758.25716.qmail@web51804.mail.yahoo.com> Hello, I didn't want to clog up the listserv, since I'm not even Albanian, but since I do have a very personal connection to this issue, I wanted to respond. You should not use Israel as a model for Kosovo's independence, nor should you look to Albania's 1949 (!) recognition of Israel independence as a good deed. It was precisely while I was working in Kosovo that I became starkly aware of the situation in Israel/Palestine. The parallel you should draw is not that of Israeli independence to Kosovar independence, but of the struggles of Palestinians under an Israeli occupier to the struggles of Kosovars under Serbian rule. In both cases, there is the same specious claim to an originary homeland, the same effort to build settlements to populate the land with those of the preferred nationality, and the same process of discrimination, systematic arrests, and apartheid. (Let me state for the record that I am Jewish, so supposedly I should be cheering about Israel's dominance rather than condemning it.) Indeed, when I went to the West Bank in the summer of 2002 to help the people there living under occupation, the similarities were so striking that I actually accidently spoke to some children in Albanian. Please, support independence for Kosovo all you want, but do not use Israel as your model, nor as your protector. Get your facts from unbiased sources, and recognize who are really your friends in the struggle for political justice. If Kosovo would make this kind of political compromise before it is even a real nation, it is already doomed. Yours, Erica Weitzman --- Pirro Rexhepi wrote: > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum > === > > > Just a month ago The Jewish Center for Public > Affairs in its Jewish Political Study Review > published an article on the 'Annals of > Israeli-Albanian Contacts on Establishing Diplomatic > Relations' > (http://www.jcpa.org/israel-europe/ier-guvrin-f05.htm) > by Yosef Govrin. > > Amongst other issues, the article refers to > Albania's friendly and positive response to Israel's > request for recognition of its independence in April > of 1949. I found the article to be extremely timely > and useful in light of the present struggle of > Albanians for independence in Kosova. Is important > that good political actions of the Albanian > government in the past (such as the recognition of > Israel) should be utilized in favor of the > independence of Kosova. In other words, we should > actively look for sponsors for Kosova's independence > from those countries that not only we have had good > relations with and 'helped' out, but also hold sway > in international politics. Is unfortunate however > that the Albanian diplomacy was never very skilled > in such diplomatic maneuvers! > > Hope there was a good turn out at the UN > demonstration today since I was not able to make it! > > Peace! > > > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com wrote:Send NYC-L mailing > list submissions to > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened > in New York > in November 16 (Kreshnik Berisha) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 > From: Kreshnik Berisha > Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" > to be screened in > New York in November 16 > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > > The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj > and Blerta Zeqiri, > will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at > the Village East > Cinemas at 10PM. > > The screening is organized as a part of the New York > Int. Independent > Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes > after the film had > its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the > NYIIFV Festival in > September, where it won the Best Cinematography > Award. This award > constitutes the fourth international film award that > the two > directors-writers won. > > The film is a breathtaking story about 3 > Kosovar-Albanian students > hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of > food and > information about what's happening on the outside > makes the situation > unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever > to each other, but > yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? > find a way out. > > "EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the > situation hundreds of > thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 > NATO-bombing: stranded > in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army > ethnic-cleansing > campaign. > > For more information on the event and film, please > visit: > http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ > > For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: > http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= > > Cinema information: > 181 2nd Avenue > New York, NY 10003 > (212) 529-6998 > Theater Express Code: 922 > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NYC-L mailing list > NYC-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 > ************************************ > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC > calling worldwide with voicemail > ____________________________________________________ > NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the > Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. > To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com > For more information: > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com From euroguy666 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 25 17:02:18 2005 From: euroguy666 at yahoo.com (KL3V1S) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of Kosova's independence In-Reply-To: <20051025140758.25716.qmail@web51804.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20051025210218.32783.qmail@web52614.mail.yahoo.com> Ekziston vetem nje mik i vertete i shqiptareve qe gjithmone na ka ndihmuar ne oren me te keqe te kombit: Shtetet e Bashkuara te Amerikes. Askush tjeter nuk na ndihmon sepse na do...te gjithe te tjeret kane interesa te fshehura. Vetem presidenti Wilson garantoi pavarsine e Shqiperise dhe e shpetoi ate nga copetimi, pa pasur ndonje interes direkt...thjesht sepse ishte i drejte. Dhe tani per kosoven, syte duhet ti kemi vetem te Amerika. Eshte pikerisht USA ajo qe beri presjon per hapjen e bisedimeve, the Washingtoni dihet qe e do Kosoven te pavarur. Kshtu qe our friend = USA __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com From ak2480 at columbia.edu Wed Oct 26 03:49:44 2005 From: ak2480 at columbia.edu (ak2480 at columbia.edu) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:49:44 -0400 Subject: [NYC-L] NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1130312984.435f3518da77f@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Erica Weitzman: Your message is certainly welcome on this list-serve and what you said is exactly what came to my mind when I read the e-mail regarding the ?good political actions of the Albanian government in the past (such as the recognition of Israel) ? In fact, you took the words right out of my mouth. Just as you have learned about and empathized with the Palestinian struggle through the Kosovar Albanian struggle, I too have done the same and thus, must question anyone who is proud of and/or promotes establishing strong ties with Israel ? a sate that uses blatant acts of institutionalized discrimination to collectively punish and humiliate Palestinians, has assassinated a long line of Palestinian intellectuals and activists, routinely attacks Palestinian civilians on a daily basis, has imprisoned and continues to arbitrarily detain thousands of Palestinian males and prosecute them in a system of legalized racist laws, employs the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) to protect armed Jewish fundamentalist settlers that attack and stone Palestinian children on their way to school and tear down Palestinian olive trees (a means of subsistence for many Palestinian families) .not to mention the countess U.N. resolutions that Israel has consistently ignored and failed to comply with ? and with the relentless backing of the U.S. who gives Israel billions of dollars in military aid, effectively giving them a free hand to do as they please to the Palestinians. Oh yeah and there?s also that great big West Bank barrier, the wall that has besieged the Palestinian population and their towns and villages. They are now cut off from schools, hospitals, vital land and water supplies. Many Palestinian women are forced to give birth at checkpoints while those Palestinians who are in dire need of medical care are denied the freedom of movement go to the hospital. I should also mention that the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in its 9 July 2004 advisory opinion held, inter alia, that the construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory is illegal; that Israel should dismantle the wall; and that Israel should pay reparations to those individuals who had suffered as a consequence of the construction of the wall. Israel has done nothing to comply with this decision despite the fact that their own Supreme Court affirmed that parts of this wall contravened international humanitarian and human rights law. My point is - I know that I do not want my country and its people (who have been just as humiliated and repressed under the Serbs as the Palestinians have under the rule of the psychopaths in the Israeli government) to support such a state. This is, as Erica Weitzman stated in her e-mail, a truly ?dangerous model? (!) SO...for anyone who thinks that if Kosova allies with such a state, it will be a ?good political action,? I urge you to rethink your statement. Also, think about what sort of consequences this will entail. (And by the way, what kind of picture will this portray with regard to Albanian diplomacy? Would this be considered skilled diplomacy? I certainly think not.) In addition, I encourage you to look into what happened when the state of Israel was established in 1948. It?s an absolute shame that Albania supported Israel?s independence considering the manner in which Israel was established and the fate of the Palestinians who were living there before they were terrorized by Jewish armed gangs. Thousands of Palestinians lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict or Israel?s war of independence. Today there are more than 4.1 million Palestinian refugees in the Middle East that live in shitty refugee camps to say the least. Our history of resistance, struggle and oppression should teach us about the histories of other people who live under oppression and occupation. Try to put their struggle in the context of ours and maybe, your eyes will open up to what you were blind to. Kindest Regards, Antigona Kukaj P.S. If there are any of you who want to explore the parallels b/w Israel and Serbia further, especially with respect to state violence, I highly recommend that you check out the book, Frontiers and Ghettos: State Violence in Serbia and Israel by James Ron (University of California Press, May 2003). Quoting nyc-l-request at alb-net.com: > Send NYC-L mailing list submissions to > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova > (Visar Belegu) > 2. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova > (Valon Xharra) > 3. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova's independence (Erica Weitzman) > 4. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova's independence (KL3V1S) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 > From: "Visar Belegu" > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian > diplomacy. > If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the effects > he > excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his > relationship with > President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. > > Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a > combination > of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped > in > personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of > Albania i.e. > Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a > couple of > others. > > Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the > people have > shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of > Kosova have > shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely > on "favors" > that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay > off me damn > communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. > Today, we > need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, scientists > and > professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good > about our > culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. > > > P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but in > the > meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political > sciences or > anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get > rid of the > handicapped communist mentality. > > Cheers. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:00:48 +0000 > From: "Valon Xharra" > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > P.S. to P.S. I thought banning people to do what they please was > part of the > the communist mentality era. > > > >From: "Visar Belegu" > >Reply-To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York > City,USA)" > > > >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > >Kosova > >Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: [70.17.197.186] > >X-Originating-Email: [vbelegu at hotmail.com] > >X-Sender: vbelegu at hotmail.com > >Received: from alb-net.com ([216.133.77.15]) by > mc5-f21.hotmail.com with > >Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:29 -0700 > >Received: from alb-net.com (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by > alb-net.com > >(Postfix) with ESMTP id 644F410C82E8;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:15 > -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from localhost (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com > (Postfix) > >with ESMTP id 12A6010C82E6for ; Tue, 25 Oct > 2005 > >02:24:13 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f30.bay103.hotmail.com > [65.54.174.40])by > >alb-net.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8301010C82D4for > ; > >Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:05 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft > >SMTPSVC;Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:08 -0700 > >Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com > with > >HTTP;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08 GMT > >X-Message-Info: wCrlMA1YA+isppTFp2dJv4DVSfpy5CNOO7B1pOnOnSo= > >X-Original-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Delivered-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08.0421 > >(UTC)FILETIME=[B4C03150:01C5D92C] > >X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 > >X-BeenThere: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 > >Precedence: list > >List-Id: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York > City,USA)" > > > >List-Unsubscribe: > >, > >List-Archive: > >List-Post: > >List-Help: > >List-Subscribe: > >, > >Errors-To: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com > >Return-Path: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com > > > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === > > > > > >For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian > diplomacy. > >If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the > effects he > >excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his > relationship > >with > >President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. > > > >Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a > combination > >of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped > in > >personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of > Albania i.e. > >Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a > couple of > >others. > > > >Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the > people have > >shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of > Kosova have > >shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely > on "favors" > >that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay > off me > >damn > >communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. > Today, we > >need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, > scientists and > >professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good > about our > >culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. > > > > > >P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but > in the > >meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political > sciences or > >anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get > rid of the > >handicapped communist mentality. > > > >Cheers. > > > > > >____________________________________________________ > >NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the > >Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. > >To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com > >For more information: > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: Erica Weitzman > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova's independence > To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum \(New York City, > USA\)" > Message-ID: <20051025140758.25716.qmail at web51804.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello, > > I didn't want to clog up the listserv, since I'm not > even Albanian, but since I do have a very personal > connection to this issue, I wanted to respond. > > You should not use Israel as a model for Kosovo's > independence, nor should you look to Albania's 1949 > (!) recognition of Israel independence as a good deed. > It was precisely while I was working in Kosovo that I > became starkly aware of the situation in > Israel/Palestine. The parallel you should draw is not > that of Israeli independence to Kosovar independence, > but of the struggles of Palestinians under an Israeli > occupier to the struggles of Kosovars under Serbian > rule. In both cases, there is the same specious claim > to an originary homeland, the same effort to build > settlements to populate the land with those of the > preferred nationality, and the same process of > discrimination, systematic arrests, and apartheid. > (Let me state for the record that I am Jewish, so > supposedly I should be cheering about Israel's > dominance rather than condemning it.) Indeed, when I > went to the West Bank in the summer of 2002 to help > the people there living under occupation, the > similarities were so striking that I actually > accidently spoke to some children in Albanian. > > Please, support independence for Kosovo all you want, > but do not use Israel as your model, nor as your > protector. Get your facts from unbiased sources, and > recognize who are really your friends in the struggle > for political justice. If Kosovo would make this kind > of political compromise before it is even a real > nation, it is already doomed. > > Yours, > Erica Weitzman > > --- Pirro Rexhepi wrote: > > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum > > === > > > > > Just a month ago The Jewish Center for Public > > Affairs in its Jewish Political Study Review > > published an article on the 'Annals of > > Israeli-Albanian Contacts on Establishing Diplomatic > > Relations' > > > (http://www.jcpa.org/israel-europe/ier-guvrin-f05.htm) > > by Yosef Govrin. > > > > Amongst other issues, the article refers to > > Albania's friendly and positive response to Israel's > > request for recognition of its independence in April > > of 1949. I found the article to be extremely timely > > and useful in light of the present struggle of > > Albanians for independence in Kosova. Is important > > that good political actions of the Albanian > > government in the past (such as the recognition of > > Israel) should be utilized in favor of the > > independence of Kosova. In other words, we should > > actively look for sponsors for Kosova's independence > > from those countries that not only we have had good > > relations with and 'helped' out, but also hold sway > > in international politics. Is unfortunate however > > that the Albanian diplomacy was never very skilled > > in such diplomatic maneuvers! > > > > Hope there was a good turn out at the UN > > demonstration today since I was not able to make it! > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com wrote:Send NYC-L mailing > > list submissions to > > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > > visit > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > > 'help' to > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > > is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened > > in New York > > in November 16 (Kreshnik Berisha) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 > > From: Kreshnik Berisha > > Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" > > to be screened in > > New York in November 16 > > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > > > > The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj > > and Blerta Zeqiri, > > will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at > > the Village East > > Cinemas at 10PM. > > > > The screening is organized as a part of the New York > > Int. Independent > > Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes > > after the film had > > its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the > > NYIIFV Festival in > > September, where it won the Best Cinematography > > Award. This award > > constitutes the fourth international film award that > > the two > > directors-writers won. > > > > The film is a breathtaking story about 3 > > Kosovar-Albanian students > > hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of > > food and > > information about what's happening on the outside > > makes the situation > > unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever > > to each other, but > > yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? > > find a way out. > > > > "EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the > > situation hundreds of > > thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 > > NATO-bombing: stranded > > in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army > > ethnic-cleansing > > campaign. > > > > For more information on the event and film, please > > visit: > > http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ > > > > For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: > > > http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= > > > > Cinema information: > > 181 2nd Avenue > > New York, NY 10003 > > (212) 529-6998 > > Theater Express Code: 922 > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NYC-L mailing list > > NYC-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > > End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 > > ************************************ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC > > calling worldwide with voicemail > > ____________________________________________________ > > NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the > > Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. > > To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com > > For more information: > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: KL3V1S > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova's independence > To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum \(New York City, > USA\)" > Message-ID: <20051025210218.32783.qmail at web52614.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Ekziston vetem nje mik i vertete i shqiptareve qe gjithmone na ka > ndihmuar ne oren me te > keqe te kombit: Shtetet e Bashkuara te Amerikes. Askush tjeter > nuk na ndihmon sepse na > do...te gjithe te tjeret kane interesa te fshehura. Vetem > presidenti Wilson garantoi > pavarsine e Shqiperise dhe e shpetoi ate nga copetimi, pa pasur > ndonje interes > direkt...thjesht sepse ishte i drejte. Dhe tani per kosoven, > syte duhet ti kemi vetem te > Amerika. Eshte pikerisht USA ajo qe beri presjon per hapjen e > bisedimeve, the > Washingtoni dihet qe e do Kosoven te pavarur. Kshtu qe our > friend = USA > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NYC-L mailing list > NYC-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 9 > ************************************ > From ebozdo at aol.com Wed Oct 26 09:37:35 2005 From: ebozdo at aol.com (ebozdo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:37:35 -0400 Subject: [NYC-L] A little thought In-Reply-To: <1130312984.435f3518da77f@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> References: <1130312984.435f3518da77f@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Message-ID: <8C7A8498F24F850-B3C-A811@MBLK-M10.sysops.aol.com> Hi everybody! I appreciate you girls comming up with your comments, while the original information sounds also very interesting to its own. I guess we really need supporters, while there is NO NEED for new enemies. However, any paralelism (from both sides) sound as an unneccesary over reaction. And that's all we can say for now. EB -----Original Message----- From: ak2480 at columbia.edu To: nyc-l at alb-net.com Sent: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:49:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [NYC-L] NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 9 === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === Erica Weitzman: Your message is certainly welcome on this list-serve and what you said is exactly what came to my mind when I read the e-mail regarding the "good political actions of the Albanian government in the past (such as the recognition of Israel)." In fact, you took the words right out of my mouth. Just as you have learned about and empathized with the Palestinian struggle through the Kosovar Albanian struggle, I too have done the same and thus, must question anyone who is proud of and/or promotes establishing strong ties with Israel - a sate that uses blatant acts of institutionalized discrimination to collectively punish and humiliate Palestinians, has assassinated a long line of Palestinian intellectuals and activists, routinely attacks Palestinian civilians on a daily basis, has imprisoned and continues to arbitrarily detain thousands of Palestinian males and prosecute them in a system of legalized racist laws, employs the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) to protect armed Jewish fundamentalist settlers that attack and stone Palestinian children on their way to school and tear down Palestinian olive trees (a means of subsistence for many Palestinian families)..not to mention the countess U.N. resolutions that Israel has consistently ignored and failed to comply with - and with the relentless backing of the U.S. who gives Israel billions of dollars in military aid, effectively giving them a free hand to do as they please to the Palestinians. Oh yeah and there's also that great big West Bank barrier, the wall that has besieged the Palestinian population and their towns and villages. They are now cut off from schools, hospitals, vital land and water supplies. Many Palestinian women are forced to give birth at checkpoints while those Palestinians who are in dire need of medical care are denied the freedom of movement go to the hospital. I should also mention that the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in its 9 July 2004 advisory opinion held, inter alia, that the construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory is illegal; that Israel should dismantle the wall; and that Israel should pay reparations to those individuals who had suffered as a consequence of the construction of the wall. Israel has done nothing to comply with this decision despite the fact that their own Supreme Court affirmed that parts of this wall contravened international humanitarian and human rights law. My point is - I know that I do not want my country and its people (who have been just as humiliated and repressed under the Serbs as the Palestinians have under the rule of the psychopaths in the Israeli government) to support such a state. This is, as Erica Weitzman stated in her e-mail, a truly "dangerous model" (!) SO...for anyone who thinks that if Kosova allies with such a state, it will be a "good political action," I urge you to rethink your statement. Also, think about what sort of consequences this will entail. (And by the way, what kind of picture will this portray with regard to Albanian diplomacy? Would this be considered skilled diplomacy? I certainly think not.) In addition, I encourage you to look into what happened when the state of Israel was established in 1948. It's an absolute shame that Albania supported Israel's independence considering the manner in which Israel was established and the fate of the Palestinians who were living there before they were terrorized by Jewish armed gangs. Thousands of Palestinians lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict or Israel's war of independence. Today there are more than 4.1 million Palestinian refugees in the Middle East that live in shitty refugee camps to say the least. Our history of resistance, struggle and oppression should teach us about the histories of other people who live under oppression and occupation. Try to put their struggle in the context of ours and maybe, your eyes will open up to what you were blind to. Kindest Regards, Antigona Kukaj P.S. If there are any of you who want to explore the parallels b/w Israel and Serbia further, especially with respect to state violence, I highly recommend that you check out the book, Frontiers and Ghettos: State Violence in Serbia and Israel by James Ron (University of California Press, May 2003). Quoting nyc-l-request at alb-net.com: > Send NYC-L mailing list submissions to > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova > (Visar Belegu) > 2. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova > (Valon Xharra) > 3. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova's independence (Erica Weitzman) > 4. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova's independence (KL3V1S) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 > From: "Visar Belegu" > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian > diplomacy. > If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the effects > he > excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his > relationship with > President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. > > Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a > combination > of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped > in > personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of > Albania i.e. > Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a > couple of > others. > > Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the > people have > shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of > Kosova have > shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely > on "favors" > that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay > off me damn > communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. > Today, we > need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, scientists > and > professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good > about our > culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. > > > P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but in > the > meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political > sciences or > anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get > rid of the > handicapped communist mentality. > > Cheers. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:00:48 +0000 > From: "Valon Xharra" > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > P.S. to P.S. I thought banning people to do what they please was > part of the > the communist mentality era. > > > >From: "Visar Belegu" > >Reply-To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York > City,USA)" > > > >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > >Kosova > >Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: [70.17.197.186] > >X-Originating-Email: [vbelegu at hotmail.com] > >X-Sender: vbelegu at hotmail.com > >Received: from alb-net.com ([216.133.77.15]) by > mc5-f21.hotmail.com with > >Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:29 -0700 > >Received: from alb-net.com (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by > alb-net.com > >(Postfix) with ESMTP id 644F410C82E8;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:15 > -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from localhost (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com > (Postfix) > >with ESMTP id 12A6010C82E6for ; Tue, 25 Oct > 2005 > >02:24:13 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f30.bay103.hotmail.com > [65.54.174.40])by > >alb-net.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8301010C82D4for > ; > >Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:05 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft > >SMTPSVC;Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:08 -0700 > >Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com > with > >HTTP;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08 GMT > >X-Message-Info: wCrlMA1YA+isppTFp2dJv4DVSfpy5CNOO7B1pOnOnSo= > >X-Original-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Delivered-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08.0421 > >(UTC)FILETIME=[B4C03150:01C5D92C] > >X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 > >X-BeenThere: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 > >Precedence: list > >List-Id: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York > City,USA)" > > > >List-Unsubscribe: > >, > >List-Archive: > >List-Post: > >List-Help: > >List-Subscribe: > >, > >Errors-To: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com > >Return-Path: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com > > > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === > > > > > >For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian > diplomacy. > >If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the > effects he > >excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his > relationship > >with > >President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. > > > >Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a > combination > >of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped > in > >personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of > Albania i.e. > >Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a > couple of > >others. > > > >Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the > people have > >shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of > Kosova have > >shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely > on "favors" > >that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay > off me > >damn > >communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. > Today, we > >need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, > scientists and > >professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good > about our > >culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. > > > > > >P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but > in the > >meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political > sciences or > >anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get > rid of the > >handicapped communist mentality. > > > >Cheers. > > > > > >____________________________________________________ > >NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the > >Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. > >To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com > >For more information: > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: Erica Weitzman > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova's independence > To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum \(New York City, > USA\)" > Message-ID: <20051025140758.25716.qmail at web51804.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello, > > I didn't want to clog up the listserv, since I'm not > even Albanian, but since I do have a very personal > connection to this issue, I wanted to respond. > > You should not use Israel as a model for Kosovo's > independence, nor should you look to Albania's 1949 > (!) recognition of Israel independence as a good deed. > It was precisely while I was working in Kosovo that I > became starkly aware of the situation in > Israel/Palestine. The parallel you should draw is not > that of Israeli independence to Kosovar independence, > but of the struggles of Palestinians under an Israeli > occupier to the struggles of Kosovars under Serbian > rule. In both cases, there is the same specious claim > to an originary homeland, the same effort to build > settlements to populate the land with those of the > preferred nationality, and the same process of > discrimination, systematic arrests, and apartheid. > (Let me state for the record that I am Jewish, so > supposedly I should be cheering about Israel's > dominance rather than condemning it.) Indeed, when I > went to the West Bank in the summer of 2002 to help > the people there living under occupation, the > similarities were so striking that I actually > accidently spoke to some children in Albanian. > > Please, support independence for Kosovo all you want, > but do not use Israel as your model, nor as your > protector. Get your facts from unbiased sources, and > recognize who are really your friends in the struggle > for political justice. If Kosovo would make this kind > of political compromise before it is even a real > nation, it is already doomed. > > Yours, > Erica Weitzman > > --- Pirro Rexhepi wrote: > > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum > > === > > > > > Just a month ago The Jewish Center for Public > > Affairs in its Jewish Political Study Review > > published an article on the 'Annals of > > Israeli-Albanian Contacts on Establishing Diplomatic > > Relations' > > > (http://www.jcpa.org/israel-europe/ier-guvrin-f05.htm) > > by Yosef Govrin. > > > > Amongst other issues, the article refers to > > Albania's friendly and positive response to Israel's > > request for recognition of its independence in April > > of 1949. I found the article to be extremely timely > > and useful in light of the present struggle of > > Albanians for independence in Kosova. Is important > > that good political actions of the Albanian > > government in the past (such as the recognition of > > Israel) should be utilized in favor of the > > independence of Kosova. In other words, we should > > actively look for sponsors for Kosova's independence > > from those countries that not only we have had good > > relations with and 'helped' out, but also hold sway > > in international politics. Is unfortunate however > > that the Albanian diplomacy was never very skilled > > in such diplomatic maneuvers! > > > > Hope there was a good turn out at the UN > > demonstration today since I was not able to make it! > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com wrote:Send NYC-L mailing > > list submissions to > > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > > visit > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > > 'help' to > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > > is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened > > in New York > > in November 16 (Kreshnik Berisha) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 > > From: Kreshnik Berisha > > Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" > > to be screened in > > New York in November 16 > > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > > > > The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj > > and Blerta Zeqiri, > > will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at > > the Village East > > Cinemas at 10PM. > > > > The screening is organized as a part of the New York > > Int. Independent > > Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes > > after the film had > > its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the > > NYIIFV Festival in > > September, where it won the Best Cinematography > > Award. This award > > constitutes the fourth international film award that > > the two > > directors-writers won. > > > > The film is a breathtaking story about 3 > > Kosovar-Albanian students > > hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of > > food and > > information about what's happening on the outside > > makes the situation > > unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever > > to each other, but > > yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? > > find a way out. > > > > "EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the > > situation hundreds of > > thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 > > NATO-bombing: stranded > > in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army > > ethnic-cleansing > > campaign. > > > > For more information on the event and film, please > > visit: > > http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ > > > > For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: > > > http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= > > > > Cinema information: > > 181 2nd Avenue > > New York, NY 10003 > > (212) 529-6998 > > Theater Express Code: 922 > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NYC-L mailing list > > NYC-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > > End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 > > ************************************ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! 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Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) > From: KL3V1S > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova's independence > To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum \(New York City, > USA\)" > Message-ID: <20051025210218.32783.qmail at web52614.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Ekziston vetem nje mik i vertete i shqiptareve qe gjithmone na ka > ndihmuar ne oren me te > keqe te kombit: Shtetet e Bashkuara te Amerikes. Askush tjeter > nuk na ndihmon sepse na > do...te gjithe te tjeret kane interesa te fshehura. Vetem > presidenti Wilson garantoi > pavarsine e Shqiperise dhe e shpetoi ate nga copetimi, pa pasur > ndonje interes > direkt...thjesht sepse ishte i drejte. Dhe tani per kosoven, > syte duhet ti kemi vetem te > Amerika. Eshte pikerisht USA ajo qe beri presjon per hapjen e > bisedimeve, the > Washingtoni dihet qe e do Kosoven te pavarur. Kshtu qe our > friend = USA > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NYC-L mailing list > NYC-L at alb-net.com > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 9 > ************************************ > ____________________________________________________ NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com For more information: http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed From pirrorexhepi at yahoo.co.uk Wed Oct 26 23:10:37 2005 From: pirrorexhepi at yahoo.co.uk (Pirro Rexhepi) Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:10:37 +0100 (BST) Subject: [NYC-L] NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20051027031037.64994.qmail@web86803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I generally don?t like to engage in endless cyber-debates, especially since the meaning of something I had posted was fully misconstrued, which seems to be a proof that no one took the time to actually read it but it appears that some did read through it! Given the time some of you took to read through my posting, I feel obliged to reply. Erica Weitzman: Dear Erica, how very kind of you to have worked in Kosovo be sure that I, as any other Albanian, remain extremely grateful to not only your contribution but all those who were and are there to genuinely effect a change (small may though the number be of such philanthropists in the Kosovo mission). As to your reply, you say ?You should not use Israel as a model for Kosovo's Independence ? and I ask you to make reference in my posting where I call for an Israeli model on the future of Kosova?s independence!? Please re-read my posting again, and what you will find me suggesting is to simply utilize whatever political leverage we hold with Israel towards Kosova?s independence. As to you suggesting me that ?nor should you look to Albania's 1949 recognition of Israel independence as a good deed.? I choose to believe that such action was a good deed, and respect your take on the matter as well and will not try to influence or patronize you with 'should-s' and 'shouldn't-s.?Should? and ?should not? were instruments of censorship on the right to practice freedom of expression in the previous communist regime in Albania and I am highly sensitive to such instructions! Second: Visar Belegu I wish I knew of which other complaints you have heard on the failure of Albanian diplomacy, should you know of any, please be kind enough to share them with us here. But let me get to the point here: Fan Noli was not the Albanian diplomat who ?excerpted effects? from President Willson, it was Faik Konica. Please check the Prof. Arben Puto last book on Albanian diplomacy to get your historical facts right. Fan Noli, though a marvelous erudite figure he may have been in literature, politics, philology, theology, music and philosophy, a distingushed diplomat he never was though a diplomat he may have been. As to your portrayal of the present Albanian political establishment, let me say that I find it a bit pessimistic and negative, but is your opinion and I respect it although I may not agree with it. You say ?The people of Kosova have shown maturity that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely on "favors" that a communist Albanian goverment gave? Not quite sure to percisley which maturity you are referring to friend, perhpse you have not being following the news in the passed two years but there has been some heck of political IMMATURITY by both the political establishment and the people in Kosova. Need I remind you of the March events or the situation of minorities in Kosova? Secondly, I didn?t make any claim that the Albanian communist regime ?gave? or did any favors, not for Kosova not for Albania not for any living Albanian on the face of the earth! However, those little political actions that it did take in the international scene can be used to our advantage today. My point was simply this: If Albania recognized Israel, Israel should recognize Kosova, and frankly I don?t see anything wrong in this. How Erica, Visar and Antogona read, understood and interpreted my posing, that is something that I cannot control, in the end it comes down to individual perceptions. One more note on Visar: First you say that we should relay on our scientists and then you go on to say that no Albanian should be allowed to study political science for the next 50-100 years??? Interesting that someone that sells for an enlightened fellow like yourself should make such insinuations, such statements my friend are the epiphany of the communist sub-conciseness of the Albanian ?this should be allowed? and ?those should not be allowed for I know best!? These are the type of expressions of that old political mind-set of communist Albania i.e. Albanian traditional arrogance coupled with the pseudo-communist credos! And finally Visar, diplomacy does play a role and does matter. A very famous and polished Albanian lady by the name of Parashqevi Qiriazi who represented the Albanian-American colony at the Peace conference in Paris from 1919 to 1920 noted "If there is no one to raise your issue at the table, your issue won?t be raised and worst even if your representation at the table is poor, while then your issue is a comical affair." Antigona: My post has nothing to do with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. If you wish to express your knowledge on the issue, please open a new topic relating to the the point you so passionately wish to make. Thank you all and next time someone posts something, try to be nicer, is not as if we are dividing property here (as an Albanian saying goes) we are simply trying to communicate, but I do understand how being Albanian and trying to communicate can be difficult sometimes! Cheers! nyc-l-request at alb-net.com wrote:Send NYC-L mailing list submissions to nyc-l at alb-net.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nyc-l-request at alb-net.com You can reach the person managing the list at nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 9 (ak2480 at columbia.edu) 2. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of Kosova's independence (Erkanda Bujari) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 03:49:44 -0400 From: ak2480 at columbia.edu Subject: Re: [NYC-L] NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 9 To: nyc-l at alb-net.com Message-ID: <1130312984.435f3518da77f at cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Erica Weitzman: Your message is certainly welcome on this list-serve and what you said is exactly what came to my mind when I read the e-mail regarding the ?good political actions of the Albanian government in the past (such as the recognition of Israel)?? In fact, you took the words right out of my mouth. Just as you have learned about and empathized with the Palestinian struggle through the Kosovar Albanian struggle, I too have done the same and thus, must question anyone who is proud of and/or promotes establishing strong ties with Israel ? a sate that uses blatant acts of institutionalized discrimination to collectively punish and humiliate Palestinians, has assassinated a long line of Palestinian intellectuals and activists, routinely attacks Palestinian civilians on a daily basis, has imprisoned and continues to arbitrarily detain thousands of Palestinian males and prosecute them in a system of legalized racist laws, employs the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) to protect armed Jewish fundamentalist settlers that attack and stone Palestinian children on their way to school and tear down Palestinian olive trees (a means of subsistence for many Palestinian families)?.not to mention the countess U.N. resolutions that Israel has consistently ignored and failed to comply with ? and with the relentless backing of the U.S. who gives Israel billions of dollars in military aid, effectively giving them a free hand to do as they please to the Palestinians. Oh yeah and there?s also that great big West Bank barrier, the wall that has besieged the Palestinian population and their towns and villages. They are now cut off from schools, hospitals, vital land and water supplies. Many Palestinian women are forced to give birth at checkpoints while those Palestinians who are in dire need of medical care are denied the freedom of movement go to the hospital. I should also mention that the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in its 9 July 2004 advisory opinion held, inter alia, that the construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory is illegal; that Israel should dismantle the wall; and that Israel should pay reparations to those individuals who had suffered as a consequence of the construction of the wall. Israel has done nothing to comply with this decision despite the fact that their own Supreme Court affirmed that parts of this wall contravened international humanitarian and human rights law. My point is - I know that I do not want my country and its people (who have been just as humiliated and repressed under the Serbs as the Palestinians have under the rule of the psychopaths in the Israeli government) to support such a state. This is, as Erica Weitzman stated in her e-mail, a truly ?dangerous model? (!) SO...for anyone who thinks that if Kosova allies with such a state, it will be a ?good political action,? I urge you to rethink your statement. Also, think about what sort of consequences this will entail. (And by the way, what kind of picture will this portray with regard to Albanian diplomacy? Would this be considered skilled diplomacy? I certainly think not.) In addition, I encourage you to look into what happened when the state of Israel was established in 1948. It?s an absolute shame that Albania supported Israel?s independence considering the manner in which Israel was established and the fate of the Palestinians who were living there before they were terrorized by Jewish armed gangs. Thousands of Palestinians lost both their homes and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict or Israel?s war of independence. Today there are more than 4.1 million Palestinian refugees in the Middle East that live in shitty refugee camps to say the least. Our history of resistance, struggle and oppression should teach us about the histories of other people who live under oppression and occupation. Try to put their struggle in the context of ours and maybe, your eyes will open up to what you were blind to. Kindest Regards, Antigona Kukaj P.S. If there are any of you who want to explore the parallels b/w Israel and Serbia further, especially with respect to state violence, I highly recommend that you check out the book, Frontiers and Ghettos: State Violence in Serbia and Israel by James Ron (University of California Press, May 2003). Quoting nyc-l-request at alb-net.com: > Send NYC-L mailing list submissions to > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova > (Visar Belegu) > 2. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova > (Valon Xharra) > 3. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova's independence (Erica Weitzman) > 4. Re: Albanian-Israeli relations and the recognition of > Kosova's independence (KL3V1S) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 > From: "Visar Belegu" > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian > diplomacy. > If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the effects > he > excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his > relationship with > President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. > > Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a > combination > of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped > in > personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of > Albania i.e. > Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a > couple of > others. > > Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the > people have > shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of > Kosova have > shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely > on "favors" > that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay > off me damn > communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. > Today, we > need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, scientists > and > professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good > about our > culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. > > > P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but in > the > meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political > sciences or > anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get > rid of the > handicapped communist mentality. > > Cheers. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:00:48 +0000 > From: "Valon Xharra" > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > P.S. to P.S. I thought banning people to do what they please was > part of the > the communist mentality era. > > > >From: "Visar Belegu" > >Reply-To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York > City,USA)" > > > >To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > >Kosova > >Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 01:24:08 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >X-Originating-IP: [70.17.197.186] > >X-Originating-Email: [vbelegu at hotmail.com] > >X-Sender: vbelegu at hotmail.com > >Received: from alb-net.com ([216.133.77.15]) by > mc5-f21.hotmail.com with > >Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:29 -0700 > >Received: from alb-net.com (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by > alb-net.com > >(Postfix) with ESMTP id 644F410C82E8;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:15 > -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from localhost (alb-net.com [127.0.0.1])by alb-net.com > (Postfix) > >with ESMTP id 12A6010C82E6for ; Tue, 25 Oct > 2005 > >02:24:13 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from hotmail.com (bay103-f30.bay103.hotmail.com > [65.54.174.40])by > >alb-net.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8301010C82D4for > ; > >Tue, 25 Oct 2005 02:24:05 -0400 (EDT) > >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft > >SMTPSVC;Mon, 24 Oct 2005 23:24:08 -0700 > >Received: from 65.54.174.200 by by103fd.bay103.hotmail.msn.com > with > >HTTP;Tue, 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08 GMT > >X-Message-Info: wCrlMA1YA+isppTFp2dJv4DVSfpy5CNOO7B1pOnOnSo= > >X-Original-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >Delivered-To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2005 06:24:08.0421 > >(UTC)FILETIME=[B4C03150:01C5D92C] > >X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS 0.3.12 > >X-BeenThere: nyc-l at alb-net.com > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 > >Precedence: list > >List-Id: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum (New York > City,USA)" > > > >List-Unsubscribe: > >, > >List-Archive: > >List-Post: > >List-Help: > >List-Subscribe: > >, > >Errors-To: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com > >Return-Path: nyc-l-bounces at alb-net.com > > > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === > > > > > >For a long time now I hear about the failiures of the Albanian > diplomacy. > >If one is to learn from the deeds of say Fan Noli and the > effects he > >excerted in the American policy toward Albania through his > relationship > >with > >President Wilson then such claims become preposterous. > > > >Our failiures toward independece throughout history have been a > combination > >of our political immaturity at home, greed, division all wrapped > in > >personalities that can be clearly seen in today's leaders of > Albania i.e. > >Nano, Berisha, Rugova, Thaqi, Haradinaj, Daci, Surroi and a > couple of > >others. > > > >Today, however, while our leaders have failied to do so, the > people have > >shown tremendous maturity in difficult times. The people of > Kosova have > >shown that they deserve independence and we do not need to rely > on "favors" > >that a communist Albanian goverment gave. Today, we need to lay > off me > >damn > >communist mentality of being over-political and over-paranoid. > Today, we > >need to rely on our films, poems, engeeniers, doctors, > scientists and > >professionals of all fields to represent everything that is good > about our > >culture. Do this right and the world will take note of us. > > > > > >P.S. Not to leave with some kind of semi-radical statment but > in the > >meantime all Albanians should be banned from studying political > sciences or > >anything related to it and hopefully in 50-100 years we will get > rid of the > >handicapped communist mentality. > > > >Cheers. > > > > > >____________________________________________________ > >NYC-L: A discussion and information list of the > >Albanian community in the New York City Metro Area. > >To post to the list: NYC-L at alb-net.com > >For more information: > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: Erica Weitzman > Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Albanian-Israeli relations and the > recognition of > Kosova's independence > To: "Albanians in New York City Discussion Forum \(New York City, > USA\)" > Message-ID: <20051025140758.25716.qmail at web51804.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hello, > > I didn't want to clog up the listserv, since I'm not > even Albanian, but since I do have a very personal > connection to this issue, I wanted to respond. > > You should not use Israel as a model for Kosovo's > independence, nor should you look to Albania's 1949 > (!) recognition of Israel independence as a good deed. > It was precisely while I was working in Kosovo that I > became starkly aware of the situation in > Israel/Palestine. The parallel you should draw is not > that of Israeli independence to Kosovar independence, > but of the struggles of Palestinians under an Israeli > occupier to the struggles of Kosovars under Serbian > rule. In both cases, there is the same specious claim > to an originary homeland, the same effort to build > settlements to populate the land with those of the > preferred nationality, and the same process of > discrimination, systematic arrests, and apartheid. > (Let me state for the record that I am Jewish, so > supposedly I should be cheering about Israel's > dominance rather than condemning it.) Indeed, when I > went to the West Bank in the summer of 2002 to help > the people there living under occupation, the > similarities were so striking that I actually > accidently spoke to some children in Albanian. > > Please, support independence for Kosovo all you want, > but do not use Israel as your model, nor as your > protector. Get your facts from unbiased sources, and > recognize who are really your friends in the struggle > for political justice. If Kosovo would make this kind > of political compromise before it is even a real > nation, it is already doomed. > > Yours, > Erica Weitzman > > --- Pirro Rexhepi wrote: > > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum > > === > > > > > Just a month ago The Jewish Center for Public > > Affairs in its Jewish Political Study Review > > published an article on the 'Annals of > > Israeli-Albanian Contacts on Establishing Diplomatic > > Relations' > > > (http://www.jcpa.org/israel-europe/ier-guvrin-f05.htm) > > by Yosef Govrin. > > > > Amongst other issues, the article refers to > > Albania's friendly and positive response to Israel's > > request for recognition of its independence in April > > of 1949. I found the article to be extremely timely > > and useful in light of the present struggle of > > Albanians for independence in Kosova. Is important > > that good political actions of the Albanian > > government in the past (such as the recognition of > > Israel) should be utilized in favor of the > > independence of Kosova. In other words, we should > > actively look for sponsors for Kosova's independence > > from those countries that not only we have had good > > relations with and 'helped' out, but also hold sway > > in international politics. Is unfortunate however > > that the Albanian diplomacy was never very skilled > > in such diplomatic maneuvers! > > > > Hope there was a good turn out at the UN > > demonstration today since I was not able to make it! > > > > Peace! > > > > > > > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com wrote:Send NYC-L mailing > > list submissions to > > nyc-l at alb-net.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > > visit > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > > 'help' to > > nyc-l-request at alb-net.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > nyc-l-owner at alb-net.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > > is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of NYC-L digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" to be screened > > in New York > > in November 16 (Kreshnik Berisha) > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2005 05:09:04 +0200 > > From: Kreshnik Berisha > > Subject: [NYC-L] Award-winning Kosovar film "EXIT" > > to be screened in > > New York in November 16 > > To: nyc-l at alb-net.com > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 > > > > The Kosovar feature film "EXIT", by Lendita Zeqiraj > > and Blerta Zeqiri, > > will be screened in New York on November 16, 2005 at > > the Village East > > Cinemas at 10PM. > > > > The screening is organized as a part of the New York > > Int. Independent > > Film and Video Festival (NYIIFV Festival). It comes > > after the film had > > its world premiere in the Los Angeles event of the > > NYIIFV Festival in > > September, where it won the Best Cinematography > > Award. This award > > constitutes the fourth international film award that > > the two > > directors-writers won. > > > > The film is a breathtaking story about 3 > > Kosovar-Albanian students > > hiding in a flat during the war in Kosova. Lack of > > food and > > information about what's happening on the outside > > makes the situation > > unbearable. The three friends are closer than ever > > to each other, but > > yet quite far in trying to solve the unsolvable ? > > find a way out. > > > > "EXIT" depicts with immaculate accuracy the > > situation hundreds of > > thousands of Albanians were in during the 1999 > > NATO-bombing: stranded > > in their homes in fear of the Serb-Police and -Army > > ethnic-cleansing > > campaign. > > > > For more information on the event and film, please > > visit: > > http://www.nyfilmvideo.com/2005/lasep2005/exit/ > > > > For tickets (US$11.00 at Ticketweb) visit: > > > http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=detail&event=633764&interface= > > > > Cinema information: > > 181 2nd Avenue > > New York, NY 10003 > > (212) 529-6998 > > Theater Express Code: 922 > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NYC-L mailing list > > NYC-L at alb-net.com > > http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-l > > > > > > End of NYC-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 5 > > ************************************ > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! 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