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List: NYC-L[NYC-L] Mission:Jeton Ademaj jeton at hotmail.comSun May 29 16:59:20 EDT 2005
Isa: >>>Public outreach takes place from 6-11:00 every night on the boob tube,>>>>>>>>>>> do you have a proposal for getting some 30 second spots circulating on network primetime? >>>writing letters in some hidden corner of the "liberal" print media is wasting time (and yes J. lots of hot air). <<<< I listed the NYTimes, WashPost and Wall Street Journal because collectively they are all considered large and credible outlets by policymakers, especially for international news. >>>One full-page ad does absolutely nothing<<< untrue. it depends on the content and timing >>and is quickly countered. It is by stealth, underground and long-term cultivation. <<< so you have a plan i take it? one that *will* be put into effect by you or somebody? >>>Often, they consult those young kids (who of course are to be coddled, petted and groomed--no need to remind me J [or at least insinuate] that I should conduct myself with humility ***at the right time***; I have been doing it for many years). <<<<>>>>>In the end, it is because we hate to look each other in the eye and work together; it is more self-serving to be smug, flippant and disrespectful, than bend a little. I plead guilty as charged by the way.<<<<< as for "the right time" (to 'coddle/groom/headpat'), you ARE aware that some of whom you speak actually read THIS particular list, right? so u propose 'coddling' to their face and dissing them behind their backs, but within earshot? as for looking people in the eye you should probably speak for yourself only... >>>>>>No, the community cannot hope for Hearst or Murdoch to subsidize this agenda. <<<< why does it have to be 'an agenda" (as opposed to speaking and reporting the truth) and why do we need Hearst or Murdoch if there's all this albo money lying around? I ferget if ILLYRIA even has a DC correspondent, but if they dont they should...if only to have a voice amongst the DC press corps and in the transcripts of these briefings. >>>Moreover, the fight is not public relations but reformation of influential people. These are the people you never hear about, they will never autograph their portraits but they are the entourage surrounding every decision-maker in Washington, the faceless suites who are suaded by the silly things they hear in USSD press briefings and over a beer at the local bar. This is how the Bolsheviks and STB and UDBA and all those other counter-intelligence operations worked. Perhaps I should ask Putin to contribute his personal experiences at head of the KGB in Berlin to emphasize the point.<<<The "leaders" of this country do not have my respect, nor do their operatives and those who are content with living in such an ethical wasteland<<<< This is the classic error of so many albo activists i've met, especially those raised overseas. OF COURSE we need to cultivate close longterm relationships with policymakers and their assorted staff (tho its perfectly unhelpful to use UDBA and the KGB as rolemodels). The problem is when this approach is taken at the expense of influencing the public opinion that these "important people" DO have to answer to in some form. many activists (like you i suspect) prism their own cynicisms into their general strategy...you end up wearing your contempt for the person you're lobbying right on your sleeve. so you may leave them feeling like they just met a (not so) slick brownshirt AND there's no "public noise" (or the perception thereof) to augment your influence. >>>I completely and utterly disagree with the notion that the last ten years have been something akin to a media victory for Albanians.<<<< it would have been if we'd had our collective act together. as it is we have Belgrade out and the makings for recognized self-determination in the works, which we are quite lucky to have given the job we haven't done. and that ship hasn't sailed yet, actually. most Americans still have positive perceptions of Albanians, despite the efforts of the isolationist/anti-Islamic right and the isolationist/anti-American left... >>>If Kosovars and Albanians still believe they convinced Clinton to come and save them, they are saddly misguided. <<< why EXACTLY? >>>It is indeed a tragedy that the rationale for intervention, and what were the conditions that ultimately led the US Airforce to step up their "air campaign" is stunning.<<< incoherent statement above. clarify, please. >>In the end, the trust we have in our special relationship with the US has cost Kosovars (I leave out Southern Albanians from this equation, they have their own problems with Nano and Greece) the golden opportunity in 1999 to have set the agenda.<<< bullshit. blaming "trust in the USA" is a copout to ignore the fact that we dropped the ball that rolled our way after the war. we walked right into the Serbian trap of trying to establish "facts on the ground", expelling and harrasing non-Albos to Belgrade's sheer delight. it was ***DISTRUST*** in the USA and NATO and the UN and most of all ***the EU*** that led many albos to shift the international focus from what Serbs did to Albos to what Albos were doing to the Serbs (and everybody else!). ******WE, KOSOVAR ALBANIANS****** have done Belgrade's work for them because many of us took Slobo's lesson from Bosnia: "kick them out and we have the territory by default"...which set up Slobo's aim of K-partition quite nicely. It is to our huge and mostly *unearned* advantage that the US has finally awoken to the fact that the "standards before status" paradigm has produced an intrinsically entropic state of affairs.... it is the LACK of clear status that has inflamed some Kosovars DISTRUST of the international community and produced this creeping entropy favoring partition and/or limbo. While that state of affairs suits several EU and UN members just fine, it's end result (partition or return to serbia and more war) would prove embarrasing for the US. the US has finally recognized this and moved the focus to STANDARDS *WITH* STATUS, to triangulate Prishtine and Belgrade out of an entropic, inherently unstable zero-sum mentality and into eventual EU membership...and if Kosovars get and keep their act together, AS SEPERATE ENTITIES. >>>Let us not forget that our best and brightest are either dead (and largely unaccounted for) or in the Hague, charged as war criminals. <<<< well there's nothing you or I or we can do about that besides seeking the fate and remains of the former and emotionally/financially supporting the latter. so you may wish to cast a wider net for organizing Albanians. >>>The discussions in DC are again back to decentralization<<< not really >>minority rights<<< that should ALWAYS be on the table >>and Hitler creating Kosova and the Albanian problem.<<< no that last part is not in wide discussion but Belgrade would like it to be...the actual history of the region is on our side in that regard which is why it's worthwhile to establish a public awareness of it, and allow wacky theorists enough rope to hang themselves with. >>>Be as SOPHISTICATED as you want, but by being cute, time is wasted and pogrom after pogrom visits those Albanians who are not as lucky as we are, far away from artillary shells, Arkan's monsters and abject poverty.<<< If i sound supercilious or 'cute', you sound like a shrill brownshirt. Kosovars are generally not facing pogroms right now, they've been lured into performing them. and THEIR victims are willingly sacrificed by Belgrade for as much publicity as possible. Abject poverty is part of the trap Kosovars are in (a trap which some people are only to happy to spring again and again), which can only be unsprung by establishing a stable, tolerant regime and culture throughout Kosova. Whether or not any of our efforts had anything to do with it, the US is at last moving to correct this inherently unstable situation. The least we can do is lobby public support for it AND create a sober and responsible Kosovar body politic. Jeton
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