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List: ALBSA-Info[ALBSA-Info] On MacedoniaAgron Alibali aalibali at yahoo.comWed Jul 17 18:09:04 EDT 2002
Subject: Illinois Senate Declares Ancient Macedonians are Greeks! And a Passionate Response by a Macedonian American! 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Short description: ANCIENT MACEDONIANS-HELLENES Synopsis of Bill as introduced: Proclaims that the ancient Macedonians are Hellenes and that the inhabitants of the northern province of Greece, Macedonia, are their Hellenic descendants. Last action on Bill: RESOLUTION ADOPTED Last action date: JUN-01-02 Location: Senate Amendments to Bill: AMENDMENTS ADOPTED: HOUSE - 0 SENATE - 0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- http://www.legis.state.il.us/legisnet/legisnet92/srgroups/sr/920sr0446.html 92_SR0446 LRB9216991BHbh 1 SENATE RESOLUTION 2 WHEREAS, Philip of Macedonia, his son, Alexander the 3 Great, and his tutor, the philosopher Aristotle, were born 4 and raised in the Northern Province of Greece, Macedonia; and 5 WHEREAS, The language and culture of the ancient 6 Macedonians, the ancestors of the inhabitants of northern 7 Greece of today, were Hellenic; and 8 WHEREAS, The Macedonians, like the rest of the Hellenes 9 in Antiquity, believed in the 12 Gods of Olympus and 10 participated with their fellow Hellenes in the Olympic Games; 11 and 12 WHEREAS, Pella, the palace where Alexander the Great was 13 born, and Vergina, the burial site of the Macedonian kings, 14 are all located in Northern Greece; therefore, be it 15 RESOLVED, BY THE SENATE OF THE NINETY-SECOND GENERAL 16 ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, that for all of the above 17 reasons, we proclaim that the ancient Macedonians are 18 Hellenes and that the inhabitants of the northern province of 19 Greece, Macedonia, are their Hellenic Descendants; and be it 20 further 21 RESOLVED, That the history of Ancient Macedonia has been 22 Hellenic for 3,000 years and continues to be today; and be it 23 further 24 RESOLVED, That a suitable copy of this resolution be 25 presented to Dr. Antonios Papadopoulos, the Mid-Western 26 District Governor of the Pan-Macedonian Association, Inc. [ Top ] ------------------------------------------------- Re: Ancient Macedonians are Greeks State of Illinois General Assembly - Resolution 92_SR0446 Letter by Metodija Koloski July 11, 2002 Source URL: http://maknews.com/html/articles/koloski.html Governor George H. Ryan (governor at s...), Senators, and Members of the House of Representatives of the State of Illinois: Regarding Resolution 92_SR0446 made by the State of Illinois General Assembly declaring that the "Ancient Macedonians are Greeks." As an American citizen of Macedonian origin I am writing to convey my disappointment over Resolution 92_SR0446 adopted by the Illinois Senate General Assembly on June 1st, 2002. The Macedonian identity has given rise to many controversies and debates. Did the State of Illinois even bother to study the Macedonian Question before making such a ludicrous resolution? The Modern Greek claim -- that the ancient Macedonians were Greek -- is politically motivated and is not supported by historical evidence. This political mythology was created in the late 19th century to advance territorial claims against Ottoman Macedonia. In its current incarnation it is used by Greece as an excuse to discriminate against its Macedonian minority. Ancient Macedonians were among the peoples that lived between northern Greece (Thessaly) and Thrace in the Balkans and were considered by the classical Greeks as "non-Greek Barbarians" that could not participate in the Greek Olympic Games. Herodotus wrote that "Macedonians" were "Dorians" and were never admitted to the Greek community. They did not speak Greek but another language presently unknown of which only proper names remain; nowadays, they speak a Slavic language. There is a large gap between ancient and modern times. Macedonia has been a kingdom, as well as a province under Rome, Byzantium and the Ottoman Empire. It is true that the ancient Macedonian capital of Pella has been located in northern Greece since Macedonia's partition in 1913. However, this does not make the ancient Macedonians Hellenic or Greek. Consider that the Modern Greek State itself was only formed ca. 1829 and even then under a Bavarian monarchy. But who is the State of Illinois to pass a resolution proclaiming the ancient Macedonians to be Hellenes? Has the Senate tested the blood of the today's Greeks and compared it with the bones of the ancient Macedonians? Recent genetic research, -- "HLA genes in Macedonians, and the sub-Saharan origin of the Greeks" (2001) -- has established that Greeks exhibit a sub-Saharan origin whereas Macedonians are related to the older Mediterranean sub-group and, more to the point, do not show a close relationship to Greeks (1). Allow me also to mention the struggle facing the Macedonian minority in Greece. Following the Balkan Wars of 1912-13, Greece annexed half the territory of Ottoman Macedonia and instigated a policy of denationalization (ethnic cleansing) and forced assimilation of the indigenous Macedonian population (2). It is widely known that Greece refuses to acknowledge the existence of any national minorities or even minority languages (2). These difficulties still persist in Greece as highlighted by the US Helsinki Commission hearing of June 2002 (3). The Greek government will ultimately have to recognize that there is a distinct Macedonian ethnic identity. The Illinois General Assembly's recent resolution, however, is nothing short of a hate crime denying Macedonians their ethnic identity. With all due respect, Metodija A. Koloski -- a first generation American of Macedonian descent - e-mail: mkoloski at h... References: 1 - Abstract, HLA Genes in Macedonians and the Sub-Saharan Origin of the Greeks. http://maknews.com/html/articles/hla_genes.pdf 2 - Rainbow - Political Party of the Macedonian Minority in Greece - http://www.florina.org 3 US Helsinki Commission Hearing, June 2002 http://www.csce.gov/briefings.cfm?briefing_id=219 Further Readings: The Balkan Human Rights Web Pages - http://www.greekhelsinki.gr Pollitecon Publications - http://macedon.org/pollitecon/index.html The British Foreign Office and Macedonian National Identity, 1918-1941 by Andrew Rossos, Slavic Review, vol.53, number 2, Summer 1994 Macedonian Human Rights Movement of Canada - http://www.mhrmc.ca Ancient Macedonians - http://macedon.org/anmacs/index.htm Risto Stefov, Macedonia - What Went Wrong in the Last 200 Years http://maknews.com/html/articles/stefov5.html ******************************* "People who originate from one and the same race, speak the same language, live together in harmony, and have the same customs, songs and mentality, constitute a nation, and the place where they live is their homeland. In this way, the Macedonians are a nation and their homeland is Macedonia." Gjorgji Pulevski, 1875 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes -------------- next part -------------- HTML attachment scrubbed and removed
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