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List: ALBSA-Info[ALBSA-Info] Vlera ShqiptareMeha, Xhevat xhevat.meha at kpmg.co.ukTue Mar 20 14:22:49 EST 2001
Jam ma teper se i kenaqur me kesi lloj shkrime. Kontributi i tyre ne thesarin e njohjes sime ne lidhje me sistemin e vlerave ne shoqerine shqiptare eshte i pa mateshem. Vlera e tyre eshte aqe e lart sa sdi si t'i pershkruaj. I kam pase disa njohuri mbi vlerat e internaciaonalizmit shqiptar te nderkombtarizuar por keto shtjellimet e fundit me bejne te kuptoj sa pak paskam ditur. Xhevat Meha -----Original Message----- From: Iris Pilika [mailto:ipilika at hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 4:41 PM To: dardan at alb-net.com; nyc-l at alb-net.com Cc: Fisnik.Ismaili at edengene.com; albanian-uk at alb-net.com; prishtina-l at alb-net.com; tetova-l at alb-net.com; albsa-info at alb-net.com; puka at usa.net Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Re: [Re: [Albanian-UK] Re: [ALBSA-Info] 1/3 of Macedonia's Airforce de stroyed] -------- Albanian UK -------- Well, many of us from Albania proper see things in a different perspective. Take our experiences at the Greek-Albanian border. The Greek police can have you wait for hours, can decide for no reason (just because you are Albanian) that the visa you have is false and refuse to let you through. If you persist, they can tear apart your passport. Or they can scream at you that if you want to touch Greek land, you should go back to Tirana and overthrow the government, because he (the Greek) does not like it (this being true for the previous government). If you get a chance to go into their office (an official immigration office) you will see a sign in the wall saying that Northern Epirus is Greek. There, you learnt something you did not know before, half of your country is not Albanian, but Greek, and it holds a name it might have had at the time of Pirro. If they ask you about your religion, which will be the first question, and you happen to be Orthodox, then you will learn something else about your identity you did not know before, that you too are Greek or put in a more seemingly civilized word, Epirote. And this is probably half of what Albanians really go through. But just so we Albanians "don't look bad", not only will we and our government never complain, but we will still welcome these Greeks, look at them as role models, and let them do whatever they want in our country. If they want to fill our churches with Greek inscriptions, we won't complain, we'll just learn Greek, even though that wouldn't take us anywhere. We will do every effort in our part not to look bad, because we value tolerance, and that's why we are better, no, I'm sorry, more "civilized", than those Albanians in Kosova or Macedonia, who don't stop talking about some kind of human rights. Did someone say we have a deep inferiority complex? No, we are just tolerant and civilized. It's wonder how we have not become part of the EU yet, because the French and the Germans still hold grudges from World War II. We better give them some lessons from what the Greeks have taught us about democracy and tolerance, especially in this era of globalization. >From: Dardan Blaku <dardan at alb-net.com> >To: "nyc-l at alb-net.com" <nyc-l at alb-net.com> >CC: Fisnik Ismaili <Fisnik.Ismaili at edengene.com>, >"albanian-uk at alb-net.com" <albanian-uk at alb-net.com>, >"prishtina-l at alb-net.com" <prishtina-l at alb-net.com>, >"tetova-l at alb-net.com" <tetova-l at alb-net.com>, "albsa-info at alb-net.com" ><albsa-info at alb-net.com>, "puka at usa.net" <puka at usa.net> >Subject: Re: [NYC-L] Re: [Re: [Albanian-UK] Re: [ALBSA-Info] 1/3 of >Macedonia's Airforce de stroyed] >Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 18:53:27 -0500 (EST) > >-------- Albanian UK -------- > >Did any of you wait in the Kosova/Macedonia border for over 6/7 hour while >the jackass macedonian official played around with you and your >passport just because you were albanian? > > > >On 19 Mar 2001, G.S wrote: > > > === NYC-L: New York City Discussion Forum === > > > > To tell you the truth I do not like this war since it is having a very > > negative effect on our public relations, and I do not hate the >Macedonians > > even though a lot of them are jackasses (the police that is). The only >thing > > that I find interesting is that the Serbs were so powerful compared to >the > > Macedonians, so I find their weakness a bit amusing (which is in sharp > > contrast to the image they try to portray). All in all I hope the war >ends > > today, the message has gotten through and the pressure is on for >extended > > Albanian rights in Macedonia. Every extra day the war goes on will only >make > > us look more like the Serbs(the media that is). > > > > >That's one hell of a conclusion from 3 lines of text the poor guy has > > >written. > > > > >Dare I say that it is you who seem to be lacking a sense of humour or > >does > > that make me a shameful Albanian, too? > > > > >Easy with the accusations... > > > > > If it's people like these who start a war, it's a > > > shame because they put a bad name for all Albanians! > > > The joke was not funny and neither is it funny that > > > the shedding of blood of either Albanians, Macedonians > > > or Serbs provokes laughter in some people. The author > > > of the e-mail, I am sorry to say, has either a sense > > > of humor or a career in politics! Stay away from > > > comedy or the political arena! Good luck! > > > --- "G.S" <puka at usa.net <mailto:puka at usa.net>> wrote: > > > > ----------- ALBSA-Info Mailing List > > > > --------- > > > > - ALBSA Web Site: > > > > <http://www.albstudent.org> - > > > > > > > > > > > > "Macedonian Airforce" eshte e perbere prej 3 > > > > helikopterave, sot rra njeri > > > > helikopter sepse piloti nuk ka hanger mengjez para > > > > se me dal... > > > > > > > > Earlier Saturday night, an army helicopter crashed > > > > near the scene of the > > > > clashes, killing the army pilot and injuring 12 > > > > policemen, Macedonian and NATO > > > > sources said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "G.S" <puka at usa.net <mailto:puka at usa.net>> wrote: > > > > ----------- ALBSA-Info Mailing List > > > > --------- > > > > - ALBSA Web Site: > > > > <http://www.albstudent.org> - > > > > > > > > > > > > "Macedonian Airforce" eshte e perbere prej 3 > > > > helikopterave, sot rra njeri > > > > helikopter sepse piloti nuk ka hanger mengjez para > > > > se me dal... > > > > > > > > Earlier Saturday night, an army helicopter crashed > > > > near the scene of the > > > > clashes, killing the army pilot and injuring 12 > > > > policemen, Macedonian and NATO > > > > sources said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get free email and a permanent address at > > > > <http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > ALBSA-Info mailing list: ALBSA-Info at alb-net.com > > <mailto:ALBSA-Info at alb-net.com> > > > > <http://www.alb-net.com/mailman/listinfo/albsa-info> > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! 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